Black Whetblade

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Type Key Item
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Grants choice of affinity upgrade to weapon

Black Whetblade is a Whetblade in Elden Ring. Black Whetblade grants choice of affinity upgrade to a weapon. Key Items in Elden Ring include a wide variety of items found in specific locations or are given by a related NPCs which are used to unlock areas, quests, and to further progress the game's story.


Black whetblade with a cipher engraved. Can be used as a whetstone knife.

When applying an affinity using physical or occult-type ashes of war, an additional affinity of poison, blood, or occult can be chosen.


Where to find Black Whetblade in Elden Ring


Elden Ring Black Whetblade Use

Black Whetblade adds the Poison, Blood, and Occult Affinities to the menu when selecting compatible Ashes of War.


Elden Ring Black Whetblade Notes & Tips

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    • Anonymous

      You can give any dagger+25 the blood affinity and it instantly gets about 83 points of blood loss build up, without any investment in arcane. Makes you wonder why invest in arcane.

      • Anonymous

        Invest 60-80 points in Arcane and get this for the privilege of a B scaling in most cases and making your weapon un-buffable.
        Makes sense, right?
        Weapons without inherent bleed should either be buffable, or get Dark damage, or smt. Pure Arcane have bad damage and no cake on 98% of weapons (and few spells).

        • Anonymous

          It’s worth noting that once you get high enough points into strength, dexterity, and arcane, the Blood affinity will surpass the Occult affinity in both damage and blood loss buildup

          • I initially thought it was strange that occult weapons couldn't be buffed where in DS3 hollow-infused weapons could. But now that the game's been out a while, I gotta say that Arcane builds really DON'T need any more bleed/frostbite than they already have.

            • Anonymous

              Occult is a great choice for anyone already pumping Arcane for the Dragon Communion Seal. Very pleased with my +25 Occult Nightrider Flail.

              • Anonymous

                Very disappointed with occult, at 50 Dex/60 Arc I consistently find my AR lower with occult, even with the bleed buff it gets when compared to Keen + Buff excluding Dragon Communion seal which is doing wonky things to buffs, perhaps I'm just stupid but until R.o.B. and/or Eleonora gets nerfed I'll stick to it before respec.

                • Anonymous

                  I feel like I’m missing out on how to effectively use this item. I’m a pure STR build, but when I add a phys ash (determination), I can add it as a blood affinity, but it still drops my STR scaling back to non-phys ash levels. So, no change there from pre-black whetblade.

                  Conversely, if I add bloody slash, I can now add it as a Heavy affinity, which maintains STR scaling and gives me the bloody slash L2 attack…but no bleed attacks with R2/R2.

                  Is this how it works?

                  • Anonymous

                    Occult weapons can't be buffed, even if they are pure physical. At first I thought this was an issue with arcane scaling weapons not being buffable, but varre's bouquet scales with arc, has bleed, AND is buffable. Why is it like this? I feel like Occult is just worse than keen + bloodflame unless you use Seppuku. This kills arcane build variety.

                    • I was a bit disappointed that my arcane build wouldn't get Occult until Radahn and then remembered I could obliterate him with Rotten Breath. Dunno if it's too cheaty or not to do though

                      • Anonymous

                        I have this but in the normal ashes of war, it's not applying poison affinity, I also have red hot whet blade and so fire affinity is available but poison isn't for some reason. Is this a bug or just me ?

                        • Anonymous

                          It's a shame that Occult weapons that only get physical arcane scaling and nothing else cannot be buffed with sorceries/incantations.

                          • Anonymous

                            This is a game changing item for anyone going for status builds. I stumbled upon it by chance after spending many hours searching for poison/blood whips and claws. With this whetstone you can apply a basic physical ashes of war that works for almost any weapon type (like war stomp, determination etc) including whips and claws and apply poison or bleed to them! Bleed/poison power stancing whips hoh baby.

                            • Anonymous

                              there's also a red-hot whetblade down in caelid, in redmane castle if you go past the iron maiden guy and up the ladder

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