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In like 10 times I got summoned as a hunter in 100 f hours, 9 times I spawned so far that the host died before I even got close. This is pathetic

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Shout out to the TT host in the level 25 range who chilled while I farmed the blue hall monitors.

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I know that the system is badly implemented and is quite unfair to invaders, but imagine if they didn't add the blue, most people would still be complaining about the lack of the blue system saying that it existed before. And while it's true that it aids gankers, it might also aid 2 newbie friends that are new to the series and are getting invaded by the tryhardest players around, because let's be real, most invaders are chasing the nastiest pvp meta builds, and don't say "They have to do that because they are always getting ganked", because that's the way it's always been in all of the soulsborne games.

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Its a competition between Blues and Hosts being the worst players in terms of skill. Invaders and Phantoms are a mixed bag, but these two groups are consistently awful.

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AKA: Become a red's estus refill (gas station)

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if you get summoned as a blue and you just sit there, you suck.

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Blues have been reduced to glorified babysitters for gank squads, what a grim fate.

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As a blue I use chainsaw to cut down invaders

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Blue Cipher Ring In-Depth Review:
In past souls games, there were blue spirits of sorts, Blue Sentinels, Blades of The Darkmoon, etc. They served as helpers for those who were invaded, often those who were playing solo, because in past souls games, you didn't need to have co-op summons to be invaded. They were protectors of the meek, meant to help lift the burden of an invaded solo host from having to deal with both PvE and PvP enemies alone. Their purpose was rather clear, and most importantly fairer in implementation than we have modernly. Modernly in Elden Ring, to be invaded, one has to meet one of two possible requirements. The first is having at least one friendly phantom summoned. The second is having used the Taunters Tongue item, which lures in invaders intentionally. If you've red this far, you might have noticed something. Hosts in Elden Ring already have help against invaders, unless they are willingly summoning invaders to fight solo. They don't need saving or protecting. They already have it. So, this begs the question, why do blues exist in Elden Ring? Clearly hosts don't need them, as they will already have help if they need it. The hosts already have the numbers advantage in invasions, and can also use password summoning to summon in overlevelled phantoms which don't always scale down well, giving them even more of a potential advantage. Now that we've covered the advantages a host can get, lets look at what invaders get. Invaders spawn in with 3 of an item called 'Phantom Bloody Finger', this item allows them to re-locate if they spawn in a place they can't get to the host from, or, re-locate to escape a tricky situation. Unfortunately they have a habit of putting their user in the same place they spawned, but can be used for I-Frames at times. Invaders are also allied with all hostile NPCs when invading. As for what else an invader gets, there isn't much, other than significantly less flasks when compared to the host and their phantoms. Having looked at both sides, concludes, invaders are a majority of the time, automatically at a disadvantage against the host when invading. Thus showing that, the Blue Cipher Ring and Blue Phantoms in Elden Ring are effectively pointless from a balancing perspective, they don't serve as something to tip the scales in a host who's at a disadvantage, they are simply something to make the odds even more favorable for the side that already has the greater advantage. If anything, they cause an extra unbalanced situation, in PvP.

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Ah, yes, the saviors of the weak- wait, hold on a minute, hosts already have help in this game in 99% of invasions... and blues kinda perish fast, or spawn miles away... so... the often fashionably late saviors of the undeserving... yeah.
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Blues are essentially pointless in Elden Ring, they aren't saviors, the hosts already have help unless they are using a Taunters Tongue, so, yeah... they're a ganking tool, that's about it. Use this ring if you want to help gank I guess? [or don't because ganking is kinda lame]

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I use this and run in full chainsaw

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These comments pretty much sum up the invasion mechanics in this game. Nothing but tears and salt from everyone.

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Should be opt-out instead of opt-in, I like hunting twinks but it takes an eternity to summon me

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keep it on for more pvp activity but my god some of the players i get summoned to defend are just pure bottom feeders, or are far beyond any sort of help (fat rolling, <1000hp at lvl 200, etc)

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i'd rather fight a bazillion blues than a dedicated gank squad posted up in a cave somewhere

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4 Legends only

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I often see hunters being summoned when I'm a yellow, but I keep that ring on & never once got to be a blue lol

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probably the covenant to receive the biggest downgrade jumping from DS to ER

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I keep this **** on and there's nothing you can do about it.

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Reds : Hosts are fully aware that they will get invaded if they play with friends. Invasion is fair game including twinking.
Also Reds : I already know that there will be likely multiple players on the hosts side, as well as the blue hunters. THIS IS UNFAIR I SHOULD BE INVADING AND KILLING UNPREPARED HOSTS WITH MAH OPTIMIZED META PVP BUILD 1V1

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Only the gods reside here

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The blues in these comments are mega cringe. Aside from the few suggesting improvements, which the BCR is in desperate need of. I like the idea of playing a blue, but you really do just end up as some gankers henchmen, which is lame. This is why invading is typically more fun for solo players, and better for gittin gud
>but muh free heckin rune arc!
God forbid you actually play the game and improve at it.

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Most invaders just mimic veil and hide in a pack of enemies once the blue boys show up. Just take out all the enemies and they'll eventually rage quit.

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Is this true that many blue are often high-level players? Saw them wear heavy armor while using star of ruins as well.

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Is this thing always limited to "neaby" range? I feel like I can never get summoned with this thing

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I literally just use this because I immediately get a rune arc every time I spawn in. I hate being a blue in this game, its so ****ing boring, why is it so hard to get summoned??

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Went to this page looking for salty invaders and was not disappointed.

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When I go NG+ does it mean I have to revisit every single area/site of grace to be able to be sumnoned/invade there?

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I see blues trying to justify their existence here as some sort of noble protectors or something,
just face the facts and accept yourselves as cannon fodder for gankers nothing more.
You are coming in as a replacement and you started your 'blue career' most likely because an invader annihilated you at one time or another so you looked up 'most op moonveil build' on youtube and now your making yourself believe that you are some sort of hero.
Stop pretending and be proud of who you are, a salty little blue replacement for bubba(lvl300,rip)

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Either summons the most free kill of your life or summons a salty invader that got tired of getting ganked and decided to become the ganker

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The 'discord mod in training' item, top tier pathetic players.

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Only turbo cucks have this activated

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You like helping gankers? Saving TT users who invited invaders on their turf? Working for peanuts? Say no more, we have the perfect ring for you.

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When you want to gank but don't have any friends.

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I'm so tired of gankers that I have this activated just to enter the invasion and see the red invader eliminate the host, and then point down at his dead body only to see his last hope for help ruined

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Don't listen to the guy below me. Arena duel queue is less than 10 seconds at meta level 125. Invasions of course depend on level/upgrade level. I invade at level 80 and it takes a minute tops to find one.

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pretty much have to turn this on for any pvp activity at all, arena is dead, invasions are almost dead

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pretty much have to turn this on for any pvp activity at all, arena is dead, invasions are almost dead

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Why does this always take me away from that first dragon fight in CFA? Does Miyazaki have a backstage deal with it?!

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This comment section is a warzone. After invading and being invaded plenty of times, I can say that some sort of Seed of the Giant Tree like ds2 and 3 like in Ds3, since blues rarely get any interaction and we get one step closer to a purple. The Blue Cypher Ring is utterly useless with how few times it actually activates, not to mention how rarely you get to see action. Having something like the seed would offer a counter to the strawman invader that hides behind big scary mobs, while also granting them a reprieve from the world's worst boss rush

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I just wish blues would realize im trying to start a fight club instead of rushing in whenever im in a heated fun duel.

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These guys are so sad lol, when I kill them host does not even acknowledge them once, and usually just keep them as bait so they can go back to summon thier lvl 80000 idiot i just killed… imagine being used like that, have some dignity blues.

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As a retired hunter myself, I think this mechanic should get reworked. The spirit of this tool was to help those who are actually in need of help. If someone were in online mode and got invaded alone, for example, a hunter would then be summoned to help them. If someone was in coop, however, and gets invaded, then they won't be prioritized when sending blues as they don't need the help as much as someone who is playing solo online.

This would assume ofc that you can even get invaded alone, even without the taunter's tongue. With the taunter's tongue, the invader limit gets increased from one to two, inciting more challenge whether someone is playing coop or not. This would then mean that the only way to be immune to invasion is to play offline. It's the only way I can see hunters be what they were meant to be, instead of being reduced to ganking all the time.

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Doesn't work when I want to get summoned as a blue and aid an invader, but gets multiple blues to fight against when invading fml

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Reds are the biggest self-victimizing babies and every one of them in these comments whinging and whining about blues is proof of it.

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Lots of reds crying their beady little eyes out about blues on this page! Love it lol!

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Really not necessary, maybe a bit at low levels where twink builds are absolutely brutal but overall not really. I can understand why you’d want to be a blue in DS3 for instance, there’s a real chance you’d help a clueless solo host who just killed a boss and is able to be invaded because of embers. But in ER, there’s no solo invasions, (yes, taunter’s tongue exists but most clueless new players won’t be asking directly to be invaded and if they do that’s on them) only co-op invasions so most of the time, a blue will replace a phantom that just got killed. I don’t hate people co-oping, I actually prefer to invade multiple opponents because it forces me to use more than just PvP fundamentals to win and it’s chaotic and fun but blues don’t really do much in this game. They reward the invader’s work of killing a phantom with having them replaced almost immediately. The best use for blues currently is setting up fight clubs. I’m hoping blues get reworked or removed in the DLC patch, maybe something like the DS1 iteration of blues. I still like invasions overall but this is still annoying.

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If I see obvious ganking I just jump off the nearest cliff to give the invader some free flask charges.

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only use for this is getting front row seats to a pvp match and probably free arcs if you don't want to invade yourself

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'I'm a hunter, I'm helping, I save you from the bad guys after they killed your lvl 200 and 700 level summon, I am the hero here I come guys!
Aw I'm dead...

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I started using this item because some people that might need a helping hand in from software games, can't opt out from invasions.

I join the PvP as a hunter, just in case I happen to help a couple or a parent and child playing together because one or both of them can't "git gud" enough to handle both the PvE experience and the invasions.

I know that this I might not always happen on a situation like this but I might.

Definitely worth a shot.

P.S.: I am.my brother's keeper
P.P.S.: Will never invade

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hunters may be annoying, but it beats fighting level 5 gazillion password summoned players

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I get summoned as a blue like once, every full moon.

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>spawn in
>get sent home immediately because host is dead

life of a blue ring user

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It's almost comical how bad the average blue is. If you want to get into pvp, don't use this. You'll start to develop a lot of bad habits that will get you killed almost every time in a 1v1

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The Blue Cipher Ring is hardly even necessary: The power disparity between the host's company and a lone invader is so vast that by the time you get summoned, the invader is either already dead or the host has died to their own incompetence; and since you usually spawn a yonker's distance away, this almost always means the Hunter's purpose in the Tarnished ecosystem is more or less completely redundant and there is little point using this item for the purpose of interacting with other Tarnished.

As such, the functional pros and cons of this item are:
+ Periodically get a 50/50 chance of receiving a Furlcalling Finger Remedy and Rune Arc for absolutely free
- All enemies get healed up when this happens, screwing you over if you're fighting miniboss or field boss
~ Roughly 30% of encounters devolve into silly shenanigans
~ You can get summoned while in a no-combat zone, e.g. while using the trick mirror at Roundtable Hold

I'll leave it up to you to decide whether or not this ring is worth using for yourself.
— Courh the Explorer

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Blues get summoned so fast to make it up to the Blues from DS3.

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just one of the many rushed multiplayer features that feel like **** to use

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I know people complain about invaders showing up before the "so-and-so has invaded" message shows up, but can we talk about blues showing up the second you invade with no message? Shits so wack when it happens

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story of every hunter:
spawn a million miles away
die to random pve/fall damage
rinse and repeat

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No point. Wait around for a million years just to get summoned in and the invader is usually already dead or nearly dead, plus no covenant rewards to work toward or really anything noteworthy.

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I know people lament not having purple phantoms in this game, and I somewhat agree. I see people trying to recreate the moundmaker concept by invading normally and killing whoever they feel like, but this doesn't really work since coinvasions can only happen if someone allows it with the taunter's tongue, so by killing the other invader you're squandering a rare opportunity. Let me offer you this instead: If you want to be a purple phantom, be a hunter instead. You can kill the invader on the side of the host, or help the invader in a number of ways. You can drop healing rocks for them, attract enemies to the host, or you can even carian/golden retaliate the host/phantom's spells.

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How to be a good hunter:
Aggro all the enemies on the map
Lead them to host
Jump off cliff to give invader free estus

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Too me it looks like most of the people in these comments have a skill issue

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I see lots of people say blues are balanced because invaders have enemies to back them up, but they neglect to mention a few things. Pretty much everything that isn't a trash mob can friendly-fire invaders, even OTHER INVADERS can friendly fire invaders. Not all locations have enemies, and there's no guarantee enemies will be around when you invade. Lastly password summons exist, level 400+ abominations that can clear the whole map in a few button presses effectively trivializing all the "back up" that invaders have. Past level 60 or so, the downscaling system will just completely break down and do hardly anything to curb these freaks. What would be fun is having a great rune with an invasion-specific effect like Mohg's rune that allowed the usage of spirit summons, so you always have some sort of backup that wont end up getting you killed.

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Its really lame how blues just kinda... exist. they have no lore basis for existing like the previous games, not even yura is a hunter despite having it in his name, he invades other people like the ravenmount assassin and is a gold phantom for the reduvia guy, but never an actual blue. I hope dlc deepens the multiplayer mechanics a lot more instead of whatever bare bones stuff we have now

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If people are so upset about getting ganked why do they continue to invade, your more than likely going to have to deal with 2 or more people. If you want you "honorable one-v-one" so bad just go to the colosseum and do it their or find someone's red summon sign. If you don't want to do that oh well your probably just gonna keep getting ganked, because the fact of the matter is most people just want to play the game with their buddy and don't want to deal with invaders.

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The guy below being down voted by salty gankers can't handle the truth blues are a joke now.

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So this is the indignity blue's have been reduced too. When in DS1 and two they were honorable covenants hunting down filthy sinners and heretics now they're just the gank squad team GG fromsoft.

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This is the best active blue system that works. Still not all that active but definitely more frequent and easier than previous games.

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estus delivered on a silver platter

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why tf can't the bloody finger be like this? I hate spamming it over and over for 2 minutes straight to get an invasion

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Theres 2 types of blues, cooperators that want a little more action, and salty wannabe invaders that can't deal with 3v1s so they gank instead.

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lol

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Did 6 invasions today. First 5 were 3 v 1 or 2 v 1, final one was just me and him. Though that I was gonna have a solid fight for once, without having to do madness of the arenas, until an infinite wave of blue bodyguards came along and he just sat there and AFK’d the whole things. What PVP needs is something like a Red Cipher Ring where an Invader can get an extra friend to balance the odd’s.

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This just allows the host to stall indefinitely and resummon for free while an avalanche of free bodyguards covers their ass. and people have the gall to say invaders have an advantage in this game. Absolutely unreal.

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it would have been cool if this was more like moundmakers, where you could either help the invader or the host, depending on who's more disadvantaged

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blues are wildcards, either a fresh install who barely knows how to use a controller or a godsweat using the latest jeenine build

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I miss the Blade of the Darkmoon.

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Just gankers with extra steps. Blues are an absolute joke in ER

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they could've done a lot more with blues, and covenants as a whole. it just feels so barebones

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Blues in Dark Souls 1 was so fun. You basically had an entire system that hosts could indict invaders that added to a sort of "sins" the player had. These kept racking up, and blues basically acted like invaders for the sinners (meaning the more you invaded, the more likely you yourself could've get invaded by a blue). They also had a separate reward system with very cool unique awards that encouraged players to try both covenants.
I'd really like this system to return. Somehow, DS1 and even 3 at launch just feels less tryhard than Elden Ring

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Only gripe with the hunter system is the timer. When a red comes in, you've got a big long grace period until another one can invade . Blues however just keep piling in, they're a practically never ending supply of meat shields for the host. IMO it should be based on the number of phantoms still alive. Still got a phantom? then the timer is longer? Don't got any phantoms? then the timer is shorter. I feel like this would restore the push-and-pull nature of coop and invasions from previous games, while still giving noobier hosts a fighting chance.

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Lol lots of salty invaders in the comments.

Protip: don't want a blue bothering you? Don't invade <3

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essentially weenie hut jr invasions

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good for filling the downtime between invasions/coop summon

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I wish there was some sort of priority system for this. most people that have hunters on are just ganking. they don't need the help, they just want to bully invaders all day.

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The reward for using this is the same as invading. So, if there's anyone who doesn't want to gank with a host and summons who use the most broken **** imaginable, join the Reliable Excavation and Demolition team.

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lol, great for pissing off pos salty invaders. Keep crying about how you can’t ambush a player just trying to enjoy pve anymore

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Only had one successful summon with this so far. Had recently beaten Clifford the big red dog in the Raya Lucaria debate hall, went"that's a good doing point for tonight" and logged out. Next day, I turn the game back on forgetting I still had the ring on and immediately started getting summoned. I was in the spot near the beginning of Raya Lucaria, in the graveyard with the big wooden bridge. Invader was running across slinging spells, but my last character was a mage build so I was used to the patterns and ran past doing a jump attack with my scythe. The giant attack radius must've psyched then out because they panic-rolled right off the bridge lol

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Multiplayer is what kept dark souls games alive for years and this sh t is the reason why elden ring is dead.

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gotta love how the only people who have hunters on are the people that need it the least

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Works pretty much like the pendant from DS1

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Jolly rancher blue raspberry flavored

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Walking flask refills

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During the big afk scourge (like patch 1.03 or something) i used to dupe hand ballistas and explosive/lightning bolts. Id get summoned to some afk losers world and leave the items for invaders to pick up and use.

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only purpose is to be used and abused by gankers with no reward or recognition. what a sad existence

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Did a sample of the beautiful hosts I've been summoned to defend today: AFK in Dragonbarrow, AFK in Liurnia, ganking with Fingerprint cooperator, AFK in Limgrave, dead before I got to them, gankers, killed the invader before I got to them, AFK in Limgrave, dead, and lastly, AFK in Liurnia.

What's even the point anymore? I haven't had a single encounter from levels 20 to 50 where I was summoned by someone who deserved the help. Hell, I've spent more time helping invaders kill AFK hosts than fighting the reds. It just isn't fun being blue anymore :(

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(I have not verified this, and it was more than likely just a pure coincidence.) It seems that when you are talking to Ranni after defeating Royal Knight Loretta while this ring is active you will be prevented from being summoned if you are being summoned just as you placed into the situation where you cannot leave Ranni's Rise and are forced to talk to Blaidd, Iji, and Seluvis.

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please keep using this. i like free estus

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