Gargoyle's Black Blades | Elden Ring Wiki

I’d REALLY love a buff for this weapon… allow players to either use buffs on it OR infuse with ashes. I get that it has a high AR but it’s split damage and still doesn’t make up for the useless ash of war imo. I really don’t see why the black versions of the gargoyle weapons are so strange and limited, it’d be different if they were unique in any way or the ash of war shared the properties of the black blade with the maximum health reduction. Please From, change the black gargoyle weapons.

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i think the point of this is to be used with Clawmark Seal for Bestial Incantations. the other Gargoyle Twinblade doesnt scale from Faith unless you infuse and when you do that, the Strenght Scaling is lower than the Faith Scaling. But the Clawmark Seal has really good scaling for Incants from Strenght, like you can have most of your points in Strenght and abit in Faith and still have them be strong cuz you can two-hand the seal. Which is also why all beast incants require incredibly Low faith. So this twinblade has scaling from Str and Fth but the Str scaling is Higher. Gargoyles are servants of Maliketh who is Beast Clergyman so it makes sense this weapon is related to that playstyle.

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Fun fact, all the black gargoyle weapons give off a black red flame on impact similar to the Black Knife and the Maliketh’s Blackblade. Shame it doesn’t seem to actually do anything.

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Duel wielding this with the other gargoyle twinblade with an 80 str build freaking rules, I don’t know what everyone here is talking about.

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Use it as a left handed weapon you don't have to infuse, problem solved.

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One of the worst weapons across all the games. There's worse stuff but this is just weak af compared to its competition

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This weapon is nonsensical.
-It's really late into the game where holy starts falling off hard.
-It has a 22 FTH requirement but D scaling.
-It's not infusible.
-The weapon art is generic and can't be changed.
-Uses sombers.
-Gargoyle's Twinblade with holy infusion is superior in every way.

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After looking at stats 'n moves, I don't see any point in properly using it. for twinblades, the gargoyle twinblades seem like a better option, and if you want a FAI/STR type weapon, there are many more options to choose. am I missing something here?

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Requires 22 Faith and yet only gets D scaling, while it requires 18 Strength yet scales to B.

Gotta love From Soft and their weird requirements.

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It is a crime how this doesn't have any of the Gargoyle's moveset.

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Im convinced that most of these holy weapons u get late game are for people who plan on doing a ng+ so they can ACTUALLY USE these on enemies that they’re made for.

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why does it use somber stones but have a generic weapon art and no distinguishing qualities?

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Like the gargoyle axes they’re seemingly worse than the normal counterpart

Generic ash of war that can’t be changed and forced holy damage which is bad late game

From made a lot of really odd choices in Elden ring, more than usual I’d say

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Makes no sense to use this. It doesn't have a unique corpse wax attack like the greatsword version and you can just scared infuse the normal gargoyles Twinblade for similar stats and a better ash of war.

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They serve their purpose. They get the most ar, out of all the twinblades when it comes to holy damage.

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I do not see any use for this unless you use it as off hand weapon where it only exists to do power stance with the main hand and nothing more.

However the fth requirement kills it too because the only reason to power stance twinblades is to get some sh*t stacking be it poison, blood, frost whatever. Not all arcane builds use fth as you know. And even if do use faith, the this is still useless as off hand because not all fth builds go for holy damage stuff either...

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The only way to really use this one is to have it in the left hand while dual wielding the non-infused one in the right

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If they can’t be infusable, I guess that’s fair. But at least make them unique weapons with their own skills. So cool when the Gargoyles use it, but we can’t?

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This and the rest of the weapons in this suite should all be infusable. I have put many hours into Elden Ring, tested many builds, and the conclusion I'm drawing is that From released the game with many oversights in weapon mechanic design or the developers possess a fundamental hatred for weapons with natural scaling in almost anything being infusable. Why Miyazaki?

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Can't swap spinning slash again so many great animations its too bad to see this one reused& locked on multiple weapons

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STR/FTH build here. I normally powerstance Winged Scythe (L) and Heavy Grave Scythe (R), but when I need close quarters combat, I swap this bad boy into L and a Heavy Gargoyle's Twinblade in R and just absolutely shred. The set-ups mirror so well because R weapon remains ash-able/enchantable/greaseable. And the scaling affinities line up fairly well.

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bruh i defeated him and got the halberd but the game didnt give me this :/

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What’s most disappointing about this weapon is that it has a generic weapon art which CAN’T be changed. Un-charged R2’s do more damage than the weapon art and does the same exact thing, so basically it’s like not naving any weapon art at all.

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how are people complaining about this weapon? when maxed it has like 140+ higher base damage than all twinblades except Eleonora's (still nearly 100 more than that). with a twinblade moveset that's crazy because they hit fast. 440 damage per hit. before scaling.

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My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

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Why do all the black blade weapons have terrible weapon arts, the gargoyles literally use the life drain destined death moves with them, that's whole idea. Give us those moves on the damn weapons

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this really is one of those the boss when you fight it and the boss when you get it as a playable character, these looks so much more cooler when the kindreds uses them

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Can someone help me figure out what the deal is with this thing? And the other Gargoyle Black Weapons?

They seem to primarily be geared towards a Strength/Faith build, which I am using. But on all of them, either the scaling or the base damage is pretty rough, so neither the Physical nor the Holy damage ever really takes off. Despite having a higher AR of ~100 than their regular Gargoyle counterparts for me, they still do less damage per-hit, unless the enemy is weak to Holy damage, as is expected of a split-damage weapon with such a small AR difference.

To make matters worse, the regular variants can get a different ash of war, vastly expanding their utility. And on top of that, Faith builds can buff the weapon with Electrify Armament or something to completely close the AR gap.

Even after putting like 25 or so levels into Dex (I'm 66/34/55 or something rn, STR/DEX/FTH), to take advantage of the D or E scaling on these Black weapons to get a leg up on the Heavy infused ones, they still seem to suck in comparison. Just like they did at every other allotment I've tried with these weapons.

Is there something I'm missing or do these things really just blow?

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Lmao Kindreds literally have the shittiest drops in the game and they're even hard to kill.

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Really lame that it's considered legendary, honestly if you can change godskin peeler then this feels like it should two. At the very least it's a waste, no different move set, no unique ash of war effect.

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red iron twinblade my baby..

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The Black Blade Kindred is at the Forbidden Lands area (right before Grand Lift of Rold) and not at the Mountaintop of Giants

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Pretty neat, didn't know that these guys served Maliketh, and given the location of the Black Blade Kindred boss...

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Is it worth using this for a faith build or should i just enchant a different gwinblade?

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Always disappointing when a cool weapon has a basic skill AND is affinity locked.

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Ok so it seems (atleast what I’m seeing here) there are two black blade drops from the kindreds. One drops greatsword and halberd (in from of the beast deathroot guy) other drops twinblade and axe (mountaintop)…maybe?

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Can this be buffed by magic and incantations? Anybody check

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It's actually dropped by the one in the very top-right of Caelid iirc, the one directly in front of the Beast Shrine.

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There is a second black blade kindred past the royal capitol where you get this

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Can anecdotally confirm that this weapon drops from the Black Blade Kindred located in the Mountaintops of the Giants. The drops may be randomised or there may need to be a clearer distinction between the two minibosses on the main page for Black Blade Kindred.

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note that there are two versions of the black blade kindred boss, the one you get the twinblade from is the one right before the great lift to get to the mountaintops of the giants

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How to get the weapon is inaccurate. Black Blade Kindred only drops the sword version of the weapon, not the Twinblade version here. How do we get the twin blade version??

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Is this actually a weapon? I got a greatsword and Halberd from killing that Gargoyle and not a twinblade

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