Bloody Helice | Elden Ring Wiki

I no longer see players. Only wine corks.

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This in combo with a dagger having quickstep (fighting with honour; as opposed to slapping BHS on it) makes this a really fun weapon to use in a high-skill setup

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Might have only prioritised this weapon on one character but damn if it ain't one of the prettiest and more satisfying weapons in this game; always tempted to use it even if my build is garbage for it.

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Using this weapon against Malenia makes her one of the most enjoyable fights in From Soft history i swear. Just dodge, hit, stagger (it's honestly insane how effective it is to attack her mid attack because she just stops) and proc bleed. I was struggling in this last run and getting frustrated and I switched to this thing and it was all fun from that point onwards

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Rivers of blood if it was a cool weapon:

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The scaling seems to have changed since this was last updated. It scales E with strength, C with dex, and B with arcane

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Slept on this weapon for way too long. Can't express how refreshing it was to use a dex/arc weapon that treated bleed procs as a bonus, rather than the focus. The AoW was also a nice shake-up to PvE. If you haven't done a run with it yet, then you're missing out.

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I have yet to figure out how to counter this weapon in PVP. I hate fighting it because it’s so good.

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chad weapon

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this is so refreshing to pick up when you've played the game for a long time. changes the gameplay quite a bit

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annoying crutch weapon. sick of seeing the AOW spammed in the arena any time you try to engage.

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The blood loss proc and the hit box don’t line up. In pve you’ll dodge and not take damage and still take blood loss if it’s close enough, which will stagger slightly. Then the ridiculous quickness with which users of this 14’ weapon pivot it on its axis means that the users of this weapon and those of the bolt of gransax should have a self congratulatory party together celebrating themselves despite actually doing nothing, like tories or cats.

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Its a complete noob crutch. If you're invading with this its ok, but if you're ganking, twink hosting, or doing arena with it, then you should not be playing with others

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Does this work with Godfrey icon?

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If you like Bloodhound's Fang, you'll probably love this. The way the skill works makes it an amazing counter to attacks that don't have huge reach or swing high. You dodge the attack, and counter attacks for huge poise damage, good actually damage, and some bleed on top. An amazing weapon that is fun to use and actually effective at the same time.

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Pretty awesome

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has hidden latency scaling stat that increases its range 10 fold if you hit your router

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Such a underrated Weapon. May not the best but paired with a Shield lead to a massive utility and consistence damage without worrying much about mistakes.
For someone which always hated Dex Build because they require an aggressive playstyle its the perfect weapon to learn it. Meanwhileit carried me trough NG +2 without an issues

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This is my favorite weapon, and I have used it a lot. It got buffed in 1.07 when they fixed the rotation lock of the 3rd part of the ash, and indirectly nerfed when the general HTS nerfs hit. But! It's still very good.

First, it's the longest HTS. Second, it shares the wide sweep feint attack shared with dragon king's cragblade that feels easier to hit with than the one stitcher and epee have. Feints are good with HTS and often are the better choice when you're holding R2, as opposed to just doing the strong attack; unless you have a good read and you know you're going to take advantage of that lunge distance, the feint is unparriable, fast, repositions you, and sets you up for a backstep r1. Not a bread and butter move or even one you'll use all that often if you're good, but it's there and can be cleverly used.

Third, the ash. Some things to know:
- You can unlock and send the first portion of the ash (the dodge) in whatever direction you want, like a reverse backstep. Unless you exclusively want to make space, you'll catch a lot more people off guard and make them panic if you veer to the side, or send yourself into them by doing it backwards.
- Same goes for the second portion; if you are locked on when you perform the second stage of the ash (the lunge), your rotation is limited to 90deg in either direction. If your enemy is behind you, you will not turn more than 90deg, and you will shoot off to the side, becoming vulnerable. Unlocking and manually aiming the move does not have this restriction, but can take time to master. You should probably spend a lot of time figuring out how to hit people with all sorts of things when unlocked, anyway. Speed your camera up and turn off autorotation while you're at it.
-The third portion (the poke and swipe) has normal tracking, if a bit slow. It will work as expected when locked on, but may not rotate enough or quickly enough some times; this was not the case until patch 1.07, until which you were locked in whatever direction you were facing when you performed the lunge, making it useless almost all the time back then. If you are out of FP, it still works as it did before the patch, with no independent rotation. There's no reason to do that, but it's some trivia.
-The lunge into the poke and swipe is not exactly a true combo. I'm not sure if poise or hyperarmor or some other factor affects this, but don't expect to ever hit all 3. Usually the lunge and poke will connect, but the swipe miss, or vice versa. The poke and swipe often both connect if the lunge did not, however. Experiment to know when it's appropriate to use 1, 2, or all 3 parts of the ash without leaving yourself immediately vulnerable. Not everyone even knows it _has_ a third part, and you could be the one to teach them.
-The lunge moves you just about as far as the dodge, meaning if you only do the first 2 stages, you'll be right where you were when you started the dodge.
-The ash has no hyperarmor, and you're vulnerable immediately after the dodge iframes. Some weapons, like pikes and the golden halberd, are long enough to cover this distance without moving, so space accordingly.
-The ash will come out slightly faster than a dodge after a stun.
-You can use the dodge as many times as you want/can in a row and it chains quickly with no decrease in effectiveness. You never need to attack out of it at all.
-20 points in dex, as opposed to the required 19, gets you a teeny bit more ar than just dumping in arcane. This is assuming a build for 125, as dex becomes more useful for this weapon after arcane hits its softcap.

I hope this helps people with using this thing. I love this thing, but you only feel super cool with it if you know all the little tricks, which you do, now! Good luck.

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Now, thanks to this weapon, I can play Elden Ring as Raphael from Soul Caliber II.

"SLOW! SLOW! SLOW!"

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My guiding Helice, you were at my side, all along

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Free parry

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Instant block list if seen in PVP :)

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Poop

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Favorite weapon right now. It looks badass and the AOW alongside the running heavy really catch people off guard.

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Weaponized screwdriver :skull:

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MOHGWYN!
cool as hell weapon, check
does bleed, check
really op and cool looking ash of war, check
this is the chad rivers of blood

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In older versions of the game (I'm meaning basically launch edition - before banished knight Engvall was obtained in murkwater catacomb and you instead got the duelist hammer) I remember getting this weapon BEFORE ALTUS plateau, I think the game used to give the sanguine noble at rose church a garunteed drop of this because I had it before Altus on my first character but when I restarted after some major updates I only got it in writueblood ruins can anyone confirm???

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Firelink greatsword when it gets bloody:

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Elden ring Colosseum experience is literally 50% this weapon.

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Call it cheap, but this complements the Golden Beast Crest Shield really well.

They both use similar shades of gold.

But while the Bloody Helice has Mohg as a symbol on its handle, the Golden Beast Crest Shield is blazoned with Serosh. Serosh acting as the beast that keeps the Golden Lineage from succumbing to bloodlust.

These further combine well with Raging Wolf armor set’s gold coloring on its legs and blood red clothe.

The scummy playstyle kind of adds to the theming.

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Ahh, bloody helice, my beloved, you were always at my side…

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Only thing that would have made this weapon even cooler was if the blade spun like a drill during the weapon skill's follow up and charged R2's, like how Ghiza's wheel does. Honestly disappointed they didn't think of that.

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Wish it would have a special interaction if you have the reduvia in your offhand

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the iframes are so generous, its really hard to deal with without a thrusting weapon

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Impossible to punish if there is even a bit of lag. So much iframes, and coupled with lag the punish window simply doesn't exist - either that or you always end up trading.

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THE FOLLOW UP!

THE FOLLOW UP IS REAL!

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While it's good to have weapons with unique Ashes of War, I'd actually love this to have Blood Tax. Would fit incredibly well with the design and description of the weapon.

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Wouldn't it be cool if you could powerstance this with the Reduvia like Mohg's bloodboys do?

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phantom range manifested into a single weapon

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Very fun weapon, the weapon art can sometimes get you in trouble if you try to follow up during a combo, but if you know when to evade and when to combo, you can do rapid damage and bleed buildup. I enjoy pairing it with a Bloody Godskin Stitcher in the offhand, both aesthetically and because you can use Seppuku to up your bleed buildup.

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ymfah when

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it's your time to shine, baby!

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This weapon should also have the "blood puddel" as part of it's move set. Seriously missed opportunity since the sanguine nobles use that attack, but now that you have their weapon you can't.

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I encounter plenty of “duelist” hosts at base level using this weapon and rune arc spamming jumping R1 R1s, running R2s but otherwise playing extremely passive. This weapon is so annoying fighting at base level having this kid just keep running in circles until I get bored and attack and he just spams the broken jumping R1 R1 combo (comes out WAY too fast and has broken tracking) to 2 shot me with bleed. Elden Ring PvP is truly amazing and well balanced lmfao

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How, exactly, do you use a feint? Nothing in the game calls any attack this, and nothing anywhere on this wiki clarifies which move it is.

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In pvp this weapons WA has a too many I-frames. Everything from the wind up to the dodge to the attack are all invincible. There’s no interrupting with an attack and the lunge doesn’t miss for anything when in range. Could use some tweaking to balance it out in the arena.

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Seems the helice has been nerfed since this was made. now only sporting 33 bleed. which is a big drop

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I know thrust and pierce attacks hit hard, anyone having doubts will soon be put straight after getting a taste of what Radahn soldiers using partisan and a greatshield, or even worse the dragon knights in leyndell who buff their spear with lightning can do to a high level character's HP bar. but for personal preference, I much prefer slash or strike weapons over thrusting weapons with pierce damage. I don't like the moveset.

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What every BHS user wishes they could use.

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The Anti ROB build

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Really fun weapon. I don’t usually like Arcane-bleed builds, but man, this weapon is just so fun. The dodge makes it feel like something out of Bloodborne.

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Thrust attacks are probably the least resisted types of attack in the game and bleeding is almost always useful. Probably one the best weapon in the game.

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Aight so this has been my main dueling/pve weapon for a while with a DCS in the off hand and I really really enjoy this weapon for its utility, like all great thrusting swords it’s greatest strength is it’s versatility and the ability to go passive chip damage to lethal aggression in seconds if very fun and come naturally with the wide array of chip and fast mix up spells like pocket sand and catch flame. It works very well with my build and is my favorite weapon in the game is what I’m saying. However I can’t feel all that right when I use this weapon cuz of that weapon art. It’s badass, fun as ****, and if you can free aim/ untarget fighting it’s ****ing beautiful but the Iframes make me feel disgusting at points. Not duel nags with BHS levels or even the levels of the katanas and yk I understand like the pvp side everyone has something they are abusing but I want to feel erect when I use this thing not shameful so a de tune to the iframes pls cuz I love this sword, it goes hard it looks hard and goes well with my fashion and the weapon art is badass but I hate feeling cheap

So In conclusion add back chain casting

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This has way too many i-frames.
You can use this and dodge and attack without being hit in sequence.

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I use this with a reduvia in the off hand. It's a lot of fun.

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Good weapon against very aggressive players. Especially very good against an RoB L2 spammer.

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What is worse than dual cross-naginatas with bleed and bloodhound's step? Nothing, but this comes close.

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Thrusting and bleed, the two most powerful things in the game in need of a major balance pass both rolled up into one package. People keep focusing on Rivers spammers and not the people using this "bloody" nightmare. You can tell team B AND A made Elden Ring together because thrusting weapons were absurd in Dark Souls 2 but in every game team A works on bleed is OP until it is nerfed.

This weapon is the result of that unholy union.

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Free aim seems inconsistent, sometimes the follow up thrust goes where I am aiming and sometimes it goes in the opposite direction. What’s weird is that it is functional about 80 percent of the time normally, but when I walk into the Godfrey boss room, it goes from inconsistent to consistently trash. This only happens when I try to move forwards with it and thrust forward, otherwise it works as usual

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The L2 thing makes me feel like a badass, 10/10

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anyone have any good builds for anti rob or just builds over all

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anyone have any good builds for anti rob or just builds over all

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On a side note, it looks beautiful and stylish af

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Love using this to hunt co-op twats. They just can't deal with a skillful weapon

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The new Anti-fun build

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The anti RoB

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Instead of a Halberd and 'offstoc' (offhand Estoc), ARC builds could run Bloody Helice and 'offspur' (offhand Antspur rapier) for a double- or triple-status effect build that scales great with Arcane

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I did some testing with scalings and infusions and came to the result that there is no heavy thrusting sword with higher ar that doesn't deal split damage.
At max level the Dragonking Cragblade has slightly higher ar but split damage and regarding the other two they only get higher ar than this when infused with cold, but that also has split damage. I know getting all scaling-relevant stats to 99 is... unlikely, but nevertheless I thought this may be an interesting find.

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99 blood loss at plus 9 with 80 arc, the the weapon art seems to act a little like some of the other weapon arts that have inherent blood loss, they must apply more then what is listed under the hood. plays a little like bloodhound fang when you lean it to it, highly recommend checking it out.

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Bloody helice with reduvia off-hand is amazing in pvp. Bleed doesn't build up at ridiculous rates and base damage is great as is. Poke when they get space and slash away when they come in your bubble. Collosal users never expect that single slash between their hits and filthy spammers will forget you have a dagger off-hand and try to start-up trade to death.

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It says 33 blood on the one i just picked up

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Pro-tip: If you aren't locked on to an enemy, and have your back turned towards them, you can use the skill to quickly lunge at you enemy since the skill propels you backwards. Really great for throwing the enemy off guard.

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This weapon seriously rewards knowing how to play unlocked from an opponent. Turning around right before trading with an opponent and pressing l2 will put you behind your opponent. With testing ive also learned you can face away from your opponent, l2 towards them and 180 r2 into them for a huge gap closing attack but it only works unlocked. If you lock on after the l2 you will only spin 90 degrees towards the enemy. Now if you know how to reverse backstep into this combo you become a finesse god.

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I can't decide if I want to use this or a knights greatsword (just for the looks and move set, don't judge me) with blood affinity bloodhound's step. Both look really cool and proc bleed pretty quick with high arcane. I like bloodhound's step a bit better defensively but offensively Dynast's Finesse is a bit more reliable and looks way cooler.

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The I-frames of Dynast's Finesse wes tested by modders in the Elden Ring PvP Discord.

It has the same amount of I-frames as Bloodhound step, but 6 frames longer of a recovery time.

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How good is dual wielding this?

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Finally, a good coiled sword

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Does skill lose iframes when out of fp?

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amazing weapon, but beware its AoW completely lacks hyperarmor

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Just got this bad boy yesterday and I love it, it has insane reach. It's running R2 thrust attack is also fast and reaches very far

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Beautiful weapon and amazing weapon art

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I like it. It reminds me of a Twizzler. Looks good with the Cleanrot Knight Set.

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As far as bleed buildup goes this is quite underwhelming, as you can get about double the amount by infusing the Great Épée or the Godskin Stitcher with Blood affinity. What I feel is the main selling point of this weapon is its skill, because you get huge i-frames while at the same time being able to counter the enemy. Also, it looks gorgeous.

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People starting using this to counter ROB and eleonora spam... But now so many people are using it and spamming its weapon art. They've become the very thing they've tried to destroy

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Spiral rapier easter egg :D <3 Praise the Arcane ! do you hear our prayersss ?

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I think the name was mistranslated, as "helice" is not actually a word in English. Maybe it was supposed to be Bloody Helix

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Got a fun build for you all - Helice with Blood infused Palisade shield (Shield Crash). Max out your shield as the blood buildup when you use the shield crash AoW is insane. Helice can also do great pokes around your shield. Shield crash even sends some foes flying, allowing you to 2hand the Halice and stab and use it's AoW.

Combine with the Briar Set for fashion souls. Briar Set is great too as if you roll through an enemy, you'll build up additional bloodloss, plus it does a micro stagger to them.

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How much damage is lost by not meeting the arcane requirement?

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"This weapon has a unique R2 shared with ..." okay, so it's not unique then. They accept everyone who registers to edit?

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Elegant and beautiful weapon. Blood weapons in ER are so well designed, give them a try and you will love them!

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Lovely move-set, although you might want to carry a faster backup weapon.

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So I tested around with a lot of weapons and while there is a number of weapons that are fun to use, I couldn't find "my weapon" for a long time. I went from Axe to Uchigatana/Nagakiba and then ended up using Twinblades, namely Eleonora's Poleblade since it has a lot of style nice damage and monstrous WA, especially for PvE.
Yet I still wasn't completely satisfied.

Then I found this little beauty and what can I say? It's absoloutely amazing!
The Bloody Helice has everything I was looking for in a weapon. It has relatively high attackspeed, backed up with good damage and stagger. This, paired with its quite high innate bleed build up that also happens to scale way better than I innitially thought, made me fall in love with it really fast ngl. I would even say this fine little thing is actually a bit underrated. Especially the WA is REALLY good! There is no broken mechanic behind it. It's just a backwards dodge with more IFrames than a normal dodge has, followed by a long range R2 which can be followed by another R2. Great "counter" WA with good damage and decent stagger.
I feel like the Bloody Helice hits a nice sweet spot where it is not OP by any means but still performs very well against all kinds of enemies + MOST IMPORTANTLY, it looks rly dope!

However, I can't really say how good the damage is in late game. I am only +5 so far and have around 380 AR and around 80 Bleed build up or something like this with 18 STR/30 DEX/40 ARC. (I am using Godricks rune some I am not 100% sure about the exact values here)

Conclusion is, Bloody Helice has nice damage, good bleed, very versatile WA with a lot of "Outplay" potential, great range and nice attackspeed. Paired with the fashion I would say, give it a try if you haven't already!

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Youtuber just did some frame testing on this, it has 41 iframes, compared to bloodhound's step which has 40. Really strong weapon art. Quickstep only has 30, while a roll has 26.

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Sexiest weapon in the game. The move-set is beautiful.

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For a thrusting weapon this thing sure seems to have a lot of...edge ;)

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WA can be used to dodge astel grab

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Right hand a weapon with "War cry",
Left hand this weapon,
Apply "War Cry" then 2hold this weapon and use R2 to charge and do massive damage with multiple hits and stagger.

Totally broken

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The weapon skill can be parried but i've only been able to do it with the buckler. If you see someone dash back time to bring out the parry tool. Still very inconsistent due to latency and it still does some big poise damage if you miss the parry

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Im willing to trade something for another one of these,, If someone can think of something they want, just message me on PSN... DexySoulS

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