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PassiveThiollier's Hidden Needle is a Fist in Elden Ring. It is a brand new Fist in the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC. The Thiollier's Hidden Needle scales primarily with Strength, Dexterity and Intelligence and is a good Weapon for __goodfor__.
Concealed weapon used by Thiollier, of a design generally favored by poison-wielders for dark and subtle purposes. Like St. Trina, who blossomed in the deep-purple garden, a rich poison is secreted from within which sends its victims into an eternal sleep.
Where to Find Thiollier's Hidden Needle in Elden Ring
The Thiollier's Hidden Needle weapon can be found at the following location:
- Finish the St. Trina and Thiollier quests and loot it after defeating the final boss.
Elden Ring Thiollier's Hidden Needle Notes & Tips
- Weapon Skill: Sleep Evermore
- This weapon cannot be infused with Ashes of War
- Thiollier's Hidden Needle can be upgraded by using Somber Smithing Stones
- the weapon skill can be used while the weapon is wielded in your left hand
- Other notes and player tips go here
Moveset & Videos in Elden Ring for Thiollier's Hidden Needle
- Videos for the Thiollier's Hidden Needle Coming Soon
Thiollier's Hidden Needle Upgrades in Elden Ring
Please see the Upgrades page to understand the weapon bolstering process.
Requires regular reinforcement with Somber Smithing Stones
This upgrade can be enchanted with Magic or boosted with Consumables.
| Attack Power | Stat Scaling | Passive Effects | Damage Reduction (%) | ||||||||||||||||
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| Thiollier's Hidden Needle | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Sta | Str | Dex | Int | Fai | Arc | Any | Phy | Mag | Fir | Lit | Hol | Bst | Rst |
| Standard | 70 | 45 | - | - | - | 45 | E | C | D | - | - |  (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 18 | 9 |
| Standard +1 | 80 | 51 | - | - | - | 49 | E | C | D | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 18.18 | 9 |
| Standard +2 | 90 | 58 | - | - | - | 54 | E | C | D | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 18.36 | 9 |
| Standard +3 | 100 | 64 | - | - | - | 58 | E | C | D | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 18.54 | 9 |
| Standard +4 | 110 | 71 | - | - | - | 63 | E | C | D | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 18.72 | 9 |
| Standard +5 | 120 | 77 | - | - | - | 67 | E | B | D | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 18.9 | 9 |
| Standard +6 | 130 | 84 | - | - | - | 72 | E | B | D | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 19.08 | 9 |
| Standard +7 | 141 | 90 | - | - | - | 76 | E | B | C | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 19.26 | 9 |
| Standard +8 | 151 | 97 | - | - | - | 81 | E | B | C | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 19.44 | 9 |
| Standard +9 | 161 | 103 | - | - | - | 85 | D | B | C | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 19.62 | 9 |
| Standard +10 | 171 | 110 | - | - | - | 90 | D | B | C | - | - | (42) |
28 | 27 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 19.8 | 9 |
| Elden Ring Fist |
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Caestus ♦ Cipher Pata ♦ Clinging Bone ♦ Golem Fist ♦ Grafted Dragon ♦ Iron Ball ♦ Katar ♦ Madding Hand ♦ Pata ♦ Poisoned Hand ♦ Spiked Caestus ♦ Star Fist ♦ Veteran's Prosthesis |
If wielded in the left hand, when pressing L2 this thing gets to use its AoW rather than triggering the right-hand weapon skill like most offhand weapons. Make of this what you will.
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The special effect of the weapon skill is terrible. It only deals extra damage to enemies that are completely knocked out by sleep and doesn’t proc for the light stagger
the scaling is wrong. its 15 INT D rating. NOT 15 FTH D rating.
- Anonymous
Does it do extra damage to enemies that are just in the stagger animation triggered by sleep build-up or do they actually have to be passed the eff out on the ground?
- Anonymous
This thing at +0 can one shot the enemies on Palace Approach Ledge-Road, use R2 on sleeping enemies and It will one-shot
- Anonymous
What in the world is eternal sleep? So far all I'm noticing is the purple above people's heads is more violet
- Anonymous
If you win in the Thiollier's invading battle and forget to talk to her after and kill the endboss without progressing her storyline you wont get this weapon nor the armor.
TLDR; if you kill the endboss without Thiollier's storyline you cant get the weapon until ng+.
- Anonymous
The requirement is 15 int, not 15 faith. Scaling is the same at a D.
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Please correct the FTH scaling to INT.
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