Deflecting Hardtear | Elden Ring Wiki

tf is spontaneous guard?

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This with the Stonebarb Cracked Tear will absolutely destroy an enemy's poise when you guard counter with a sizable weapon after a successful deflect. Pair it up with a big weapon that's got decent blocking stats and you don't even need a shield.

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This is how I was able to beat the final boss.
This + Stonebarb Cracked Tear + Greatshield talisman (reduces guard stamina; can be replaced if you're a sekiro god) + Curved sword talisman + Holy Black Steel Greatshield (100% holy negation to laugh in the boss's face when they do the AOE holy spam) + Some greatspear because they have an unusually quick guard counter attack compared to their normal R1s

You just need to figure out good timings to actually go into the guard counter. For the final boss for example they have follow-up AOE hits for every attack so you'll get staggered out of the guard counter. But once you figure out the attack windows this thing RIPS enemies to shreds. I guess you can do the same with a dual wielded katana and literally just play Sekiro 2 at the cost of getting destroyed if you're not good enough to perfectly block everything.

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Are you guys using this with a shield or just your weapon to block?

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Upon further use this item seems to be very powerful and fun. You basically get the best damage resistance, good dps and can combo with jump attacks to destroy poise. Its much easier to parry with this than with the bucker and can, in most cases out damage a parry build. I wish they would get interrupted during the guard counter but you just have to look for an opening. OP ashes of war can still melt crazy fast but you can get punished for those where with this on your only true weakness is aoe attacks and stamina. Running poise tear, opaline/uplifting aromatic, or the one that lets you "die twice" works beautifully.

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Well dang, this completely changes the game

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29 Jun 2024 05:41
I was having little trouble with Rellallalla with strenght build, drank this tear and got her on first try lol.

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having trublle with ralenna, drank this tear, barb got hjer first try

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what's the %

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Just had the thought while looking at this to make a Dollar Store Sekiro build in Elden Ring

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I was having little trouble with Renalla with strenght build, drank this tear and got her on first try lol.

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I was having little trouble with Relana with strenght build until i drank this up and got her on 1st try. Really good stuff

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I was having little trouble with Renalla with strenght build until i drank this up and got her on 1st try. Really good stuff

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Never found this. Didn't figure out how to kill those guys.

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The guard counter seems to stack:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/1dq81az/deflecting_hardtear_also_buffs_your_guard/

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Opaline Hardtear + Reflective Hardtear

this are now my most iconic duo

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Hesitation is defeat

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Sekiro parry on a sword, royal guard on a fist weapon.

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OP with the greatsword

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Best tear in the game

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idk why but to me deflecting attacks with poison hand or madding hand with this against bosses is funny

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We playing Sekiro 2 in here!

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This should habe been a mechanic in the first place and no temporary buff

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Coolest item in the whole game right here

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doesn't work with the carian knight sword's heavy blocking attacks, nor the lazuli glintstone sword's. i'd like to believe this is an oversight because combining this tear with the unique block frames of those weapons makes too much sense, so hopefully this gets patched.

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This is already part of ER Reforged basic mechanics... (cant wait for ER Reforged to work their magic with the DLC)

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This thing is honestly perfect. I hope it never gets changed

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Forget "it should have been a talisman" this should have been a new key item! A brand new passive that all builds can use that Grant's a percentage reduction on perfect guarding. The tear allowing perfect guards to do the other effects.

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Trying this out on the Promised CR boss, and I think people here are massively overstating how useful this tear is

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this tear works like the deflects in sekiro and i absolutely love it. my favorite ability from the dlc right now

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I don't really see what's so great about this tear. If you're correctly counter punishing bosses, then you already knew the correct timing, at which point you're good enough to win the fight regardless.
I'm not sure I understand the utility of this tear.

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Using this on bayle is fun af

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How big is the increase from a successful deflect? Is it viable on low guard/damage negation weapons like fists or curved swords?

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We need this as a talisman asap... Update the game and add it... this was Miyazaki's magnum opus... why wasn't this in the game to begin with?... one of Fromsoft's BEST combat mechanics... reduced to a single 5 minute, once per rest use Physick.... what a waste...

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Why was this not just added as a basic mechanic? It lasts for a whole 5 minutes, long enough for every boss fight, it makes no sense at all for it to be a physick tear.

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there is no reason to nerf it. they would not have put it in the game if they thought it was OP. which it is not - i would argue it's even harder than parrying, cause you need to fully know the entire chain of attacks before getting your guard counter. and you can only do it for 5 minutes. where it actually excels is in PVP

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I wish this was a talisman more than anything.

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This should have been a Talisman, change my mind.

Scratch that. This should have been in the base game. As a base mechanic (legitimately one of the the best things about ER Reforged).

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BRO WHAT WERE THEY THINKING WITH THIS! The Black Steel GreatHammer has a guard counter ability naturally on it without an AOW, pair it with this and you're a guard countering Holy damage machine. Probably one of the most broken things in the game aside from Bloodfiend Arm and Perfume cheesing.

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Why would y'all pair this one with the stonebarb tear, are you insane? Stonebarb lasts only 30 sec with is nothing, literally nothing, you won't et anything out of it and waste a physik slot. Pair it with something defensive like opaline hardear or stam regen or crimson tear, ffs.

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your bullshit 100 hits combo won't work on me now

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dont get me wrong this tear is awesome, but it kinda makes me wish i was just playing sekiro instead

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in my opinion this is a skillful way to play a block based build. Instead of just holding block you have to time each one and its more like a forgiving parry window. Really hope they dont nerf it because its a fun playstyle

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I don't care about the framedrop bs with the DLC. We Sekiroing with this one!!!!!

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I am addicted to this item. You get ripostes due to poise break and its just so good, legit sekiro gaming. I tested it with the parry dagger and greatsword but i like it best on the rivers of blood.

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Genuinely, this is some of the most fun I've had in 300 hours of ER. Deflecting every part of a combo or tanking a charge with your face and a right click is some levels of satisfying that I haven't had since Sekiro. Thanks, fromsoft

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Why risk a poorly timed roll when you will get roll-caught anyways by the trillion attack combos? This made Messmer SO MUCH FUN to fight that i am now using it for the rest of the DLC. It is really fun and very satisfying when you get consecutive attacks deflected. This and Stonebard cracked tear also made Gaius very easy since he was stance broken every second counter attack. I just don't know if it synergizes with Dragonbolt blessing; "Makes it easier to deflect attacks", but i guess it means attacks bouncing off of you and not guard?

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Use with dryleaf arts to become sifu

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Maaan if this was a talisman we could have used it in arena. Guard countering guard counters is intensely cool, a proper clash of swords.

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5 minutes is ridiculous but i hope they don't nerf it. cause i just tried this in pvp, other dude had river of blood, just started running away from me after i deflected everything.

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colossal sword+guard counter talisman+this tear and now you have a new interesting way to fight bosses

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use with the meteoric ore greatsword, since it's basically a medium shield missing a deflect hardly matters

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should had been a talisman tho, or duration until rest/death

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Tried 3 characters on various ng+++. Had 1 tower shield guy left on normal game so after getting destroyed on the others I went to him. He was already set up for guard counters with his lance (now messier great spear) and shield. This is exactly the playstyle and I am so happy to have found this just now.

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I have a feeling they are going to nerf this lmao

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*PLING* *PLING* * PLING* *PLING* *PLING*

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Sadly, malenias lifesteal still gets applied if you block, making waterfowl an insane health boost for her

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Not sure if this is good or bad but I'm not sure if I could've beaten the final boss of the DLC without this

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5 minutes are long enough for most boss fights.

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Use this in conjunction with the stance damage tear (stonebarbed cracked tear). There are *so* many bosses in the DLC that get staggered in two or three guard counters.

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this thing is genuinely insane

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They really should change this tear's deflect effect into something similar to Sekiro. It's kind of difficult to tell if you successfully deflected an attack, and could lead to missing the guard-counter window. At the heat of battle, you can't be paying much of your attention to your health bar.

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Does the window to deflect get smaller if you spam L1? That's how it works in Sekiro.

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Continuing, but now about the increase in Guard Boost: it HUGELY reduces the stamina cost when you successfully execute the Spontaneous Guard. I'm not sure but how much, if someone could test and axtually calculate the numbers would be great.

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It seems to increase the damage from Guard Counters by 20% each time you properly execute a Spontaneous Guard (has a visual light cue and also sound cue). It also seems to accumulate each time, up to 4x (+80% damage added to your next Guard Counter). Taking damage will NOT reset the count, but guarding at wrong timing WILL RESET.

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Use with a two-handed greatsword of solitude

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Malenia, I've come for revenge!!!

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What are you guys pairing this with in the Wondrous flask?

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Unironically the best ****ingt hing they've added in the DLC. It let's me deflect the DLC final bosses attacks with my 13 endurance and 44% negation, 21 guard boost antspur rapier (sue me) with 0 damage taken.

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I love blocking things that should not be blocked :)

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Does this work well with the new katanas type of weapons, if so then i cant wait to try this in seamless coop

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The only reason I stuck with the DLC till the end (and made me realize why Sekiro's combat system is far superior and more interesting than Souls'.)

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Got a chance to use it. I like it a lot, but it seems like it drains endurance based on your guard boost level, which sucks, wish it was no stamina cost if deflecting. Was trying it with fist and deflecting against the hammer knights and I was getting staggered from the deflects. Still, it's a really cool alternate playstyle, maybe it'd work well with one of the new shield weapons

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They need to make this a talisman like come the **** ON

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honestly 5 minutes is more than enough considering that you mostly reach a grace every 5 minutes lol

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should've been a tailsman somewhere, even if its only the deflect and doesn't add bonus counter dmg.

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Why they dont add this effect as a mechanic in the base game? This literally make the game more fun

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looks like the guard counter dmg buff stacks on successive guard counters (group of mobs, almost back to back, not sure how long it lasts) went from 1411 to like 2250 on 3rd or 4th

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Use this tear if you're struggling against Rakshasa, or really any other super spammy enemy. Human enemies and most normal enemies will flinch after guard countering them, and of course, guard counters have high stance damage.

Speaking of guard countering, I must echo the anon below. Use backhand blades two-handed, it's nuts.

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Anyone figure out the numbers of how much both the Guard Boost, Damage Negation and Guard Poise actually add up? I'm curious if you can go in barehand blocking or do you need a weapon that has some decent guard of its own.

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is there not a talisman version of this effect somewhere?

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Use this with Blood Backhand Blades. Trust

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What exactly is spontaneous guard?
Just normal Block right before the enemy hits you?
Does is effect a parry wich was bad timed but not completely failed?

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OP as ****, this is why deflection shouldn't exist in Souls games

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Duration is 5 minutes

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makes rellanas fight so much fun

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This thing is a f*cking game changer.

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My new fav tear. Colossal weapon, Two-Handed Sword Talisman + Curved Sword Talisman + Greatshield Talisman + Blade of Mercy, enjoy.

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every single elden ring overhaul mod adds sekrio parries because theyre baller as **** and work in the combat system.
this will have to do for vanilla i guess

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Man I dismissed this thinking it made parries stronger or something, not that it literally made deflects possible. I have to give this a go! Are some weapons/shields faster to guard than others, or is it all about the same?

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Tear lasts 5min. Just timed it with a stopwatch.

New favorite tear just dropped xD

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Yep, 5 min duration

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I'm always gonna use this cause it reminds me of the good days of playing sekiro

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Given how many of the tear effects and talisman effects in the base game are the same, I am scouring every single inch of the DLC looking for a talisman that does the same thing as this tear. The only reason I can think of that there isn't is that this tear is so good that having it permanently would be too powerful. I still need it.

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this should have been a talisman. pair with greathsield for maximum effect.

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Lasts 5 minutes, I've personally timed it. Was hoping for even more, but honestly I'm already thankful enough that we now have a way of properly playing 2h held weapons Sekiro-style

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Doesn't seem to affect guard counter damage in my testing. Anyone else?

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It's not exactly like Sekiro's deflect, as from the testing I've done it doesn't do any posture (stagger in Elden Ring) damage to enemies. You cannot rely on just tapping L1 to stagger enemies. It does give you an opportunity to preform an enhanced guard break which is nice, but the difference is important to note. It does last several minutes though, so you can pop it at the start of a boss fight and use it the whole way through usually.

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So this is Sekiro 2 we've been waiting for huh? Can't wait to beat base game with deflecting every main boss attack ;D

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Seems to work well with Dragonbolt Blessing, certain enemy attacks will bounce off of you leaving them open to the guard-counter

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