Staff of the Great Beyond | Elden Ring Wiki

Fellow Tarnished heed my words;

This is the catalyst for the jack of all trades. Its not the strongest on either side but it allows you to cast any and everything that can be cast. You don't have to worry about switching to a seal or staff.

If you want to be able to be to cast everything then this eldritch staff is for you. become that great sage

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someone explain to me. "Sorcery scaling" so does the incantations also scale off the sorcery scaling? or is the incant scaling separate and hidden?

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Is there any other staff or seal that can cast both type of spells with it?

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If I dont meet INT requirements, will my incantations have bad scaling too? or would it only affect the sorceries?

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Shame it wasn't the other way around, i.e. seal that cast sorceries. Would love to Comet Azur out of my bare hands.

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…. Why not just give us a stylish short cut to that double S casting of faith/int we’re gonna still do fromsoft?

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Love playing my int/fth build and seeing this for the first time made me feel an emotion I can’t even describe. I don’t care if the Golden Order Seal and the Prince of Death Staff have better scaling, spell chaining both sorceries and incantations feels amazing

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Faith/Int users not getting an order whetstone for faith/int affinity, losing it's class out to weeaboo dex the 2nd and having less int/faith scaling weapons in the base game + dlc than ds3 had in just it's dlc is ridiculous. No, this staff doesn't make up for it. There are like 5 faith/int weapons between SoNaF, Golden Order Seal, Prince of Death Staff, Rellana's Twin Blades and Clayman's Harpoon. No, the Gelmir Staff is just Prince of Death Staff with training wheels and daggers are only good for status buildup so I don't count Erdsteel Dagger either. Staff of the Great Beyond has 78% of Prince of Death's Staff scaling and 85% of Golden Order Seal. It also doesn't buff any spells so it is kinda weak. You could use it in PVP but spells are bad in PVP most of the time. In, PVE it means one less slot for spellcasting but I don't know why I would care if I'm not using a devoted magic build, in which case, I can just carry the best catalysts, two seals and two staffs for actually good damage. This is also made worse by 10 spell slots being the max then From doing the bit in South Park where they cut off a chicken's head and where it lands is how many spell slots a spell will use. Twin Moons didn't need two slots when it has zero hyperarmor, a bigger hitbox than a jump attack, barely 2-3k damage and too small of an aoe when both Gravitas and Grav Missile exist for int.

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Even if it's not the best in terms of direct damage thanks to its scaling (and also not good as a healing catalyst because of that scaling), it's really good for buffs that aren't reliant on scaling. If you have a shield in your left hand, a weapon with something like cragblade in your right hand, and the Old Lord's Talisman, you could run a buffing build like Blessing of the Erdtree, Golden Vow, Greater Barrier Spells (like Lord's Divine Fortification), and Scholar's Shield.

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Are there any spells and incantations that synergize with each other very well with this?

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I would prefer a mod to make Gelmir staff a dual catalyst.

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I won't use this staff because it LOOKS wrong. Lightning Spear, Catch Flame, Blackflame Blade, Stone of Gurranq, Inescapable Frenzy, Discus of Light, they just... look so wrong with a staff in hand! I think that's why sorcery feels so limited, because there's a lot more unique animations that suit an empty hand or small object in the palm. All the sorcery feels like flicking something, aiming and firing, conjuring something staff shaped, or slamming the staff down.

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This staff is for when you want to just run 1 catalyst. It's versatile but that versatility comes at a price, lower scaling.

You want to go all in on fth? Then erdtree seal is for you.

You want to go all in on int? Then you have lusat.

If you are pushing 80 int and 80 fth then prince of death and golden order are you best choices but you are locked to either sorceries or incantations.

It's not meta but it's an eldritch beauty for the all knowing sage

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Finally can complete my sword mage build with this! Really wanted to implement Maliketh's blade incantation into it and now I can :3

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It's hard to make this work. If you want to run a hybrid build you already compromise on talismans, and then this catalyst has pretty poor scaling even at 80/80.

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The one thing I hate about this staff is that the kinds of staves that support having multiple 80s usually clock in around 400+ sorcery scaling. This guy is very good by incantation standards which take effort to cross the 350 incantation scaling mark, but poor by sorcery standards where a Prince of Death staff would be giving you 448.


This staff is pretty much the end-game embodiment of FromSoft's design, where if you want versatility, you are paying a real price compared to a specialist. It gets the juices flowing, getting you wondering where a primarily faith caster would like to be able to yoink something off a ledge with Collapsing Stars or Briarthorn sorceries without switching between staff and seal, and weighing those benefits versus an ordinary Golden Order seal.

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At 72 INT and 26 faith this has 280 whereas Carian Regal scepter has 339. Even if I respec, this still only goes up to 315 at 50/50. I'm doing a necromancer so I have stats for rancorcall. Not sure it's worth leveling faith for a downgrade to sorceries. I have been using Sword of Darkness AoW which scales with faith, but due its slow cast time it's only usable in certain situations. Other than that there's the bairn items which scale with faith and fit in with necro theme. Also, being able to cast incantations is nice bc when I have 3 weapons equipped I often switch to the wrong one so I've just been using sorceries and a weapon/AoW. Other than that, there might be some high faith incantations worth using idk.

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Does healing and weapon buff work the same way as the golden order seal?

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What I have done is not smart or strong or all that useful really.
However, I adore that this lets me use all the faith conjured weapons as well as the carian swords. Gavel into Adula's into Lansseax's into Black Blade into Ansbach's Fury etc. is not good, but it makes me enormously happy.

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A staff made of fingers look beautiful and perfect for my necromancer, thanks From!

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In my opinion this should be a seal that grows into a staff whenever you use sorceries. And also not be made out of fingers, it looks ugly af

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died 2009, reborn 2024


welcome back talisman of beasts

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My go to staff, it's perfect for exploringcon the landscape and dungeons. Then why I go into a boss where I'm focusing on either incantations or sorcery swap it for either golden order or prince of death

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IMO it would be better not with higher scalings, but instead with a passive buff to all spells (something like 8% or so). The passive boost would not only make it closer to like golden order seal, but would also place this staff as the offhand option for spells that do not have staves/seals to buff them, but in a weaker % than the jellyfish shield or sacred order skills (which are the other options to buff such spells through your offhand) due to being passive effect instead of active buff.

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Just wished the scaling was better... 305 scaling at 45 int/fth, and golden order seal has around 345. Even 330 would convince me to use it more. For now, even hefty rancor pots do more damage than a ancient death rancor cast by this...

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OMG in the next DLC they should make a seal that cats sorcery AND incants and they should call it:

THE REAL DEAL SEAL

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I personally love how this staff looks. Is it ugly? Yes. Ugly staff is exactly what I need for a necromancer/hexer character

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Way too ugly! ⁰w⁰

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They really missed the poetic opportunity to call it:

"Wand of the Great Beyond"

*chef's kiss*

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They had one job, and while they partially did it, they made one of the most fugly catalysts in the game. Thanks Michael Zaki...

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Honestly best casting g tool in the game,. Not going to bet PoD or golden order for scaling but being g able to cast anything without swapping is a massive advantage especially against bosses or hyper aggressive enemy's

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Ayyy I got that skill issue where I try to heal with a staff then scratch my head like a dummy but this saved my self-esteem thank you Miyazaki

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Honestly, I'd love this so much if it was a seal that'd look like you're holding the microcosm

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It looks so cool casting incantation with a wand. Always want my fantasy magic in general to be casted with one. Even some of those awkward incantation poses that you do while casting looks better with a stick on hand.

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Great catalyst. I have an 80int 80 faith build that absolutely loves this. Not needing to swap weapons/seal/catalyst is worth the small reduction in damage scaling. Especially if you have a decent shield to tank heavy hits when boss closses in

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the sole reason INT/FTH is viable

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You'd think something so multipurpose would have terrible scaling to compensate but it doesn't, it's actually pretty decent all things considered.

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Should've been a sacred seal that could use incantations...

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I just wish it wasn’t so ugly. it looks like a chopped off ****

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Always wished to be able to cast Lucidity alongside other incantations to solve all statue effects. If only it looks slightly better...

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Should've been a sacred seal that looks like the microcosm.

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Don't let the dweebs on Reddit & other forums get to you. This staff is perfectly viable in both pvp & pve.

same mfs who cry about a jack-of-all-trades weapon not being able to one-shot are the same ones who don't touch pvp & can't last more than 30 sec against boss without burning thru flasks faster than a drug addict burning thru their last high

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Wish this had 27 arcane scaling. Could of been the top staff in the game

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C-C-C-C-COMBO MAKER

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Feels like this staff was designed for lower RL for example at the 125 PvP meta lvl if you care this staff is the best option for Int/Faith caster builds 43/44(307) give your spells slightly more damage then a 60 Int Academy Staff(304). While your incantations at the same split is about 13% less then Golden Order Seal if my math math's. You can obviously boost with the off hand of which ever school of incants you like to maximize I prefer Dragon Cult 1 seal 319 80 Faith(GS) --> 307 43/44(SOGB) not a huge difference but a lot of option for incants that combo from sorcery to make frame traps. But if you don't use a good option of spells Golden Order is superior for Int/Faith Incants. Bonus never have to worry about clicking the wrong button to cast. Negatives bad fashion less damage.

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In this game, the second hardest boss is the User Interface (right after the dreaded Camera) so it's the best staff and catalyst in the game.

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Miriel knew it

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Adulas moon blade, gavel of haima followed by furious blade of ansbach is a pretty nasty combo plus it looks nice

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What is better, this or Academy Glinstone Staff + Golden Order seal for a 60/60 INT/FTH build?

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A really cool detail, this staff makes glintstone magic black instead of blue

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Finally, the perfect staff for my lovecraftian themed build! Creatures of the deepest waters be praised!

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Finally, the perfect staff for my lovecraftian themed build! May the creatures lurking in the deepest waters be praised!

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Finally, the perfect staff for my lovecraftian themed build, Creatures that lurk in the deepest waters be praised!

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Wish this had Int, Faith, and Arcane Scaling!

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i do wish they had a sacred seal counterpart for this, but i know from soft is too lazy to tweak the sorcery animations

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Single handedly brings back pyromancer builds, great staff

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Brought to you by Bad Dragon. 10 out of 10 Deathbed Companions approve!

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I agree this staff is kinda ugly, but the convenience is undeniable! Honestly the scaling is super solid too, especially on my split 72INT/72FAI build. Off the seal or staff of choice for overall damage buff and you're set!

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Staff is bugged when used with inescapable frenzy, does not deal any damage.

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It looks like foot fetish sounds.
Wish we got a final boss themed dual catalyst as well (gravity + light), so I wouldn't have to use something THIS ugly.

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So the giant alien finger monstrosity was a stranded astronaut. Damn.

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Who tf has 25 INT/FTH?

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Way too Ugly! ÒwÓ

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Wish we got a seal that also casted both sorceries and incantations. Nothing wrong with this staff but fashion-wise I'd prefer to not hold a staff in my hand.

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Fingercreeper, more like power creeper

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i don't really understand what this staff is for. if i'm a lvl 200+ giga faith and int enjoyer i can just put a seal in one hand and the staff in another...???

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wish the staff was a little more aesthetically pleasing. for a staff that displays mastery of incantations AND sorceries you think it'd look more different than the maternal staff.

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I will never get rid of my Dragon Communion Seal with Arcane/Faith. Sorceries are cool, but having a glowing red aura in my hand for 0 weight with like ~380 incant scaling is worth not being able to cast blue spells.

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One of the only good tools for casters in the DLC. I love this thing

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Anyone know if you can use this to cast weapon buff sorceries and incants without meeting the faith and int requirements?

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I wish this also scaled with arcane as well. Even if the split was C/C/D or maybe a high D/D/D I feel like it'd make a bit more sense than having another int/faith staff.

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Yes now I am full physical caster build with gravity sorceires and beastial incantations.

Pair it with the stone club and now you're bonking in 3 different languages

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Bahaha now I can spam weapon arts, sorceries AND incantations in PVP all AT THE SAME TIME (I suck at the game)

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i might actually use spells for the first time in my life because this weapon looks fun af

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I don't like how the animation for casting incantations looks like I'm holding a seal to do it, kinda looks wonky, and makes the special unique one of a kind multi-catalyst in the game feel cheap in terms of its implementation.

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Cool, but makes me realize separate catalysts are dumb and annoying in general.

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Incredibly useful, decent scaling considering its versatility. Also hideous, it's perfect.

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30/30 = 251 Scaling, 45/45 = 309, 60/60 = 327, 80/30 = 302

The scaling is actually really good it just hits a ceilling at around 90 points total investment. That makes it the best staff for Faith/Int builds until around level 200. Outperforms the Prince of Death staff by a LOT until over 60/60. Around 12-15% less damage than the Golden Order Seal (and 17 - 22 % less than Carian Regal Scepter at same amount of Invest). Don't dismiss this one like the Gelmir Staff.

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Comparing to the Death Prince Staff, what does this staff stands on?

I feel like Death Prince has better power when you have more than 60 on Int and Fai, but aside from this, is there any good points into using this staff?

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Damn.
The weapon description is tragic :'(

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Courtesy of Demon's Souls.

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Make a Str/faitth Build and cast Sorcerys with int scaling still good dmg. This thing is Fantastic.

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Another benefit of this stuff ist, it doesnt deffer if your casting a Sorcery or a Incantation. Go full faith just hit the min 25 int req you still do the full scaling dmg with a Srocery. Impenetrable Thorns only needs Faith but is a Sorcery. So you also need to Lvl int for dmg.
With this stuff just keep leveling Faith, Int Sorcerys gets also dmg boosted.
Sure Dmg will be lower then boosting both stats, but you can go Full int or Faith and still do good to Fantatstic dmg with both casting options.
I made a Str/faith build and casting Loretta's Greatbow with good dmg as faith character is fantastic.

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This thing allows some truly nasty combos like miriam's vanishing + placidusax's ruin

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At RL 125 you max out stat effectiveness for a sage build

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I don't care if this has worse scaling than other options, it's worth it to avoid needing to juggle which catalyst I'm using to cast mid fight. My memory is not great, and forgetting to swap from staff to seal or vice versa has gotten me killed before.

Even using a staff in one hand and a seal in the other didn't help much since it just made me hit the wrong button and get the derp animation.

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Finally a hybrid Catalyst for Sage builds and Int+Faith Magic Knights!!! My only little beef is I'm not a huge fan of it aesthetically.

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So, I did some tests. This Staff is actually great. For Fai / Int Hybrid caster builds, this outdoes everything. From base use stats to 60/60, it outdoes all other Staves and is only bested by the Golden Order seal. At 61 Int / 60 Faith, or 61 Faith / 60 Int, it has the same stats as Prince of Death's staff. At higher Int, other staffs start to be better, with Prince of Death's being the undisputed victor. At higher Faith, then Erdtree Seal eventually beats it. But since this weapon is both a staff and a seal, it gives you a lot of flexibility, especially in weapon buffs. You can also offhand any staff/seal to boost certain schools of magic, which is more awkward for hybrid builds when you want to cast both sorceries and incantations.

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Great for mimic to heal yourself and casting sorceries

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If you are going even in both int/fth then this is the staff for you. At 50/50 this is the best option. Anything higher then go Prince of death.

Still a good catalyst if you aren't going full on spellcaster. Great sidearm for sword of Night and Flame or Rellana's Twin Blades since they both scale more from fth/int than str/dex.

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Oh great, now rain of stars spammers can cast catch flame

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With 72 Int and Faith, the damage difference between this and golden order seal is about 200 on a black fireball. The incant scaling vs prince of death staff fallls around 44 behind, but honestly the net damage is barely that different since anything upwards of like 320 in incant scaling stops seeming like much inherent difference anyways

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I've been playing a dragon cult incantation build lately but I've been missing playing with Rellana's twin blades and I completely forgot this staff existed. I need to respec because I can fit all my favorite stuff into one build just because this exists. 10/10 weapon, excellent addition to the game. 0/10 for aesthetics though but I'll take the flexibility instead

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This staff is a good option if you are looking for a build with 40 Int/40 Faith. Its great to cast sorceries and inchantations with only one staff. Im using this staff with the SoNaF

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If FROM does another DLC, I hope they include a shitty version of this for buffs. Low stat reqs and lower scaling so it'd only be useful for spells with flat effects.

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Prince of Death Staff seems to start surpacing it when you are (provided you are atleast 50/50 in int/faith) at least 18 points higher in faith OR int compared to the other. meaning at 50int/68 faith OR 68 Int/50 Faith the prince of death staff goes ahead (even if by just 1 point in sorcery/incant scaling)

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it's the first time I'm doing the dlc, I still have to finish it and I started it in a game of ng+6, I want to collect all the most important items like weapons, talismans etc to load the online save as a backup so that when I want I can redo the NG+7 dlc with everything already ready but doing the math I can't duplicate all the "need 11 mausoleums, have 10" remembrance and it turns out that I have to give up a weapon/incantation, this scepter seems the most useless to me. I have a build with around 70 in every stat so I can use any weapon. The question is: does this scepter have anything special that you know of? or does nothing change at all if I use a simple Carian scepter?

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Uhh you said both? I can cast BOTH? No switching around my equips all just in one staff? Yesssss

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If you have 80 int, there is not a single point that this is better than the prince of death's staff at max reinforcement. Ever.

Absolutely useless addition to the game, unfortunately.

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It is a beautiful tool saving a slot for many. But for top mages that use Prince''s staff it is not an alternative at all - it still remains the most powerful staff in the game reaching insane scaling at 99/99 int faith.

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