Gelmir Glintstone Staff | Elden Ring Wiki

that base drop chance is a big lie

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Got it the first time I used a silver fowlfoot

All skill, baby

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I wield this in my left hand at +25, with a +25 Prince of Deaths Staff in my right. That way I get the passive boost to my lava sorceries (that are Int/Faith based) while dealing more damage than I would just casting from the Gelmir Staff

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There are a lot of misconceptions about this staff and hybrid builds in general, so I'd like to clarify them a bit.
For starters, this is pretty much the best staff for FTH/ INT hybrid for pvp at meta levels. At 45/45 int/ fth Gelmir staff has 280 sorcery scaling, while Prince Of Death's staff has 266 scaling. POS only starts to outperform this staff at 50/50 split, which means it basically needs 10 extra levels worth of stats. POS in general, isn't really viable for pvp, since it scales similarly to quality affinity, and doesn't really get really good until insanely high levels.

Now to get to my next point, 280 sorcery scaling might not look super impressive on paper, especially if compared to pure catalysts like Regal Scepter/ Lusats at 80 Int, but it's actually quite decent if use it for it's intended purpose, aka casting Lava sorceries. Rycard's Rancour is a solid spell, and Roiling Magma is one of the most underrated spells in the game, easily being able to do 1k + damage to players with average fire resistance on full charge, and that's before accounting for any possible damage modifiers, like Fire physick tear, flames grant me strength, Graven Mass Talisman, Golden Vow etc...

But that's not the point. If your playing a hybrid build, you'll almost certainly want to pair it with Golden Order Seal. Every character has 10 spell slots. Since you already have relatively high faith investment, you'll almost certainly want to slot at least a couple of good buffs, because it's one of the perks of faith build. You'll also probably want at least a couple of offensive incantations, to make use of the Golden Order Seal.

This means that you'll have 2-3 spell slots left for sorceries, and that's what you'll use this staff for. The amount of Sorcery this staff has is more than enough for that.

On short, if your using this staff, on FTH/ INT hybrid, and then your using it to cast stuff like Swift Shard/ Carian Slicer, etc just like any other generic mage, then your obviously not gonna see impressive numbers , might as well make a separate pure int build for that.

The whole point of making hybrid build, and using hybrid catalysts is to use hybrid spells, that pure builds can't utilize.

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I just got it on my first try and laughed out loud after reading these comments

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Funny how something so rare for one is so common for the next. Have had quite a few of these drop but not a one magma sword. Same can be said for a few other rare and not so rare items. Envoy great horn or whatever it’s called has dropped for me numerous times. No Octo helm, blood whip, or damn magma sword tho.

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So I understand with the sorcery scaling the prince of death's staff becomes the better choice, but is that inclusive to the magma sorceries? I plan to use a character that has just magma sorceries for the magic options, so will this staff always out perform other staffs when it comes to magma sorceries?

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It is incredibly annoying how the “best” staff is an obtuse hunk of rock and this deliciously drippy staff is so useless.

Not gonna stop me from using it though.

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On my hybrid build I am using PoD staff but off handing this and using Magma Shot, incredibly powerful and fun

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got it first try

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I'll trade you a Man-Serpent's Shield for one

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Genuinely feel as though this isn't meant to be used. A ridiculously rare drop from an enemy there is only one of that can hardly be farmed , fitting a barely workable niche that has an objectively superior, easier to acquire option.

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You know, when you add descriptions like this, MAYBE you should also describe WHERE the throne room IS!

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One of the most tedious items to farm and its entirely useless

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Not sure if this is a fluke or not, but I’ve had about 5 play throughs now between two characters, and the staff has always dropped the first time I killed the man-serpent. After the first drop though, it’s been a grind to get a second staff in the same playthrough.

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280 sorcery scaling at 45/45 int/faith at +25. I know sorcery drew the short straw when it came to hybrid catalysts, but between this and prince of death's obscene 80/80 cap (266 scaling at 45/45) is just a kick in the teeth at this point. The only other hybrid staffs are the albinauric staff (325 scaling at 45/45 int/arc), and technically staff of the guilty (305 scaling at 80 faith).

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How's 11.11% a low drop rate? It is one of the biggest drop rates in the entire game. I farmed like 5+ weapons with 0.5% base drop rate and that was painful.

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Dropped first try with 324 discovery. Blessed.

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this ****ing thing wont drop for me

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this isn't great staff. I have tested it with all 50 stat using with magma shot. and despite having +10% increase with magma sorceries it did less damage (!!!) than albinauric staff and prince of death staff

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It's pretty **** because lava sorceries are a bad joke. If you want to play with magma just get the blade or whip. You will have much better damage at a much higher FP efficiency.

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Dropped on first attempt with 109 discovery.

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Dropped with 109 discovery.

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for how much it takes to get this staff and make it have good scaling, I think that the buff should be more significant. Why waste almost double the levels compared to just meeting the fth requirement and using any other staff, when the actual returns are almost negligible?

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I want the helmet...





P O T A T O

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At 49/49 this has the EXACT same Sorcery Scaling as the Prince of Deaths Staff.

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While its outperformed by other Glintstone staves at higher investment, I think this staff would pair well if you plan to run Sacred Seal with Glintstone Staff run focusing on Fire Spells and Incants since you wont be investing heavily into int after reaching around 40 int, pump the rest on faith since most Fire abilities are centered on incants, the Lava Sorceries are still good enough but why miss up additional spells for fun when you can have all of them.

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8 runs at 274 discover and 15 runs at 324 discover without a drop :(

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Lol this is literally a crutch. I mean LITERALLY like the ones in hospital

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don't remember even seeing this particular enemy wielding... i was going to use this chance to farm for another magma blade but ithe staff dropped on the first kill. It is 11.11% after all... should drop pretty consistently with high Disc

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don't bother with this staff even at 80 int and fth carian regal outperforms this thing, just get enough fth to cast rykards rancor and use the carian regal or lusats

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does the passive efffect buff lava ash of war like eruption and makar's sword?

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whyy is there no snow with staff?!?! DLC?

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does dual wielding this give you a 30% boost to magma? and is magma sorc considered physical or fire damage? if its fire does flame grant me strength boost it? thank you!

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I feel like this would have made more sense to scale mostly with int and a bit with fth considering most magma sorcery has a higher int requirement than fth, especially rykards rancor

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I just updated the Sor Scaling column in the table. Hopefully I did this right. I took all of my Int boosters off to show my base level

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Does this boost your magma sorceries if you hold it in your offhand and cast with a staff in your main hand similar to the staff of loss strat?

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Just dropped on my first kill.. I wondered why it wasn't on the Volcano Manor guide, then found out it's not guaranteed drop lol.

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Holy cats. I just got this to drop on only my second try, even without Silver Fowl-Foot. I just so happened to be a magic-user looking for it, too. I'm so thankful, knowing how low the drop % apparently is.

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Like 6 checks for 2, only (half of which where just happened to be in the area) XD

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I got this my first kill I thought it was garunteed lmaoo

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first try, Discovery 208

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my first farming run and my game crashed shortly after trying to return. Put me right in front of him again mid fight, so i fought him and it dropped!!!!

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Outperforms the PoD Staff up until 45/45 in terms of scaling, which is also where it softcaps. At 45/45 this has 280 while PoD has 266. However, just to compare: the Carian Regal Scepter at 80/10 int/fth has 373. So you'll be crippling your sorcery damage if you re-distribute your points equally between int and fth. If you take the 15% lava boost into consideration, you'll still only end up at 322 for Gelmir.

Imho the lava boost should be increased to +25%, that way you'd be at 350, which is still lower than the Scepter, but in exchange you'll have access to all the lava sorceries as well as incantations.

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Takes a full minute to get there & reset, but got it on my third try 274 Discovery.

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This staff really should have A scaling in Int/Fth it’ll never be able to compete with PoD staff for split builds beyond NG+. And it’s too bad because lava sorceries are 10x better than death sorceries

It’s fun to mess around with but if you’re at 55 int and Faith you’re better off using golden order Seal and running incantations mostly

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5th try 306 Discovery

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Expected to farm this for a few hours, got it my first run, i hate this game, makes the ez drops hard and the hard drops ez

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As for all Seals and staffs, if you're not a fan of the stats/scaling. Equip in your off hand and your primary at the same time to get the passive active

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Got it on my first kill with 274 discovery.

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Testing with a max-upgrade Gelmir Staff, putting 5 points at a time into Int or Faith and recording the Sorcery Scaling each time, here's the caps I found:

Each point of Int/Faith adds 3.6 Sorc Scaling until Int/Faith is at 30
Each point of Int/Faith adds 1.6 Sorc Scaling between 30 and 45
Each point of Int/Faith adds 0.55 Sorc Scaling after 45

so the soft cap for this staff is 30 and the hard cap is 45. Both Int and Faith have these caps, and both contribute equally to scaling.

Note that the Rykard's Rancor spell needs 40 int, so if you want the best bang for your stats using that spell and this staff, you'd probably want to go 40 int and 30 faith

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this staff has hard cap at 50 int and 30 faith
+ 20 Gelmir with 50/30 : 237
+ 20 Death staff with 50/30 : 227

+ 20 Gelmir with 56/30 : 240
+ 20 Death staff with 56/30 : 237

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I got 205 damage from a 144 regular Sorcery scaling staff. 236 damage from the gelmir staff at 143 sorcery scaling. 205x1.15=235.75
Seems the lava buff sorcery buff is 15%

Tested with magma shot on the closest godrick soldier from the church of Elleh.

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At 73/73 int/faith I get 394 scaling out of the death staff and only 311 out of this, with both at +25. Golden Order seal+10 is 379. Rather disappointing as I would have liked to have at least one option on choice of catalysts rather than being locked to just those two.
But I'm probably stacking int/faith to an arguably unreasonable degree.

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took me like 10 try with 70 arcane, silver scarab and silver-pickled

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Just updated to patch 1.03 and killed the staff-wielding manserpent for the first time (ever) and it dropped. Not trolling, did they make it 100% drop rate? Need confirmation.

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The boosting of this staff appears to be bugged. I have done numerous tests at several upgrade levels against staffs with identical Sorcery Scaling stat and it does not boost the damage of any lava sorcery. Anyone else have different results?

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This is a great staff for a Hexer build. Death Prince's Staff only ooutperforms it at very high values, you're better off sticking to 45/45 fth/int and then building up your other stats like 60 vig or 40 mind.

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Need to go from Temple of Eiglay Grace, up either the left or right lift, and continue until you reach a lake of lave. Follow the walkway past 2-3 more snake-men and you'll reach a room with an altar and the big snake boy you need to farm to get this staff... good luck

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Are lava sorcery’s decent in pve and pvp?

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Which staff do you ladies think is cuter for a faith build?
This or Prince of Death? UwU

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Scaling seems inferior to Prince of Death staff, which is a shame. Not sure what the sorc scaling equivalent of the lava buff is, though. Perhaps it manages to edge out the Prince of Death staff with lava magic? Could still be quite good with Rykard's Rancor if that's the case.

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Only took me 3 tries to get

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its not dropping for me, ive killed it more than 30 times

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Does anyone know how this compares to the Prince of Death's Staff in terms of Sorcery Scaling?

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Found on one of the snake men in Volcano Manor. Rare drop from the one with the huge head that casts magic at you.

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gotta love the faith scaling when lava sorceries require so much minimum int requirement anyway. I'd rather they just did it all with int tbh, its so awkward to invest in both

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