Gelmir Glintstone Staff | Elden Ring Wiki

Instead of saying FromSoft favours "unga bunga braindead" builds I think it makes more sense to think that FromSoft likes to reward players who are decisive when its time for action and rewards confidence. Hesitancy to the point of inaction is something that always gets you killed in their games. Keyword: Inaction. It's perfectly cromulent to take your time and go at your own pace. It's why DEX and INT builds are rewarded for the same thing; albeit usually from more distance. This stave is a good example of this.

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Got it on the 4th run. Took all of maybe 5 mins :)

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It's actually pretty good on the right build. Perfectly viable with an equal split even below 40/40. Yes, the prince of death's staff is more suitable past 50/50. There are more sorceries than comet azur. There are more staves than the regal scepter. There are more ways to play the game than what an ign guide tells you. You can play the game before you become a RL 200 monster with 80+ int. Have a great day.

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I'll never understand why FromSoft makes interesting odd weapons and tools be objectively bad and suboptimal. Meanwhile Bonk-stick-unga-bunga STR zombies do a gorillion dmg by pressing one button with added hyperarmor (me btw).

FromSoft ENCOURAGES braindead builds and gameplay.

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Came here to just to say I got this and magma blade first try on the same run

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no way i'm farming this for B scaling on +25

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If you wanna Int Faith build at meta levels, and you wanna cast sorceries, this is your best scaling. Lots of reasons you might do this. Your golden order seal has higher scaling, but maybe you want sorceries too. At this level in PVE using Lava for bosses resistant to holy might be your plan. Double gelmir will give you the kind of scaling usually reserved for Carian Regal Sceptre 80 Int users, so this is not a meme build.

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This and the Death Prince Staff should be sup par on spell scalling with the G.O Seal, because on god, a staff that is only optimal when you have two stats on 70 or higher, is not worth using

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Sorry guys got on first try

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Sucks that this scales evenly between int and faith when you realize magma sorceries are predominantly int. Death sorceries are definitely more int focused, but they got some chunky fai requirements, so it makes sense that the staff scales evenly.

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On even spread, this is outperformed by demi-humans staff until 26/26 faith and intelligence.

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Haha first try chumps, see ya later!

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suffering... in short why?

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Honestly the biggest bullshit in the game. No other rare drop requires such a tedious run and yields an item so essential for a certain builds in the mid game. Why is the garbage candlestick (that's also used by a single enemy) a manor quest reward instead of this?

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The question is why I should use this if I can use the Carian Regal Scepter for all magma sorceries at 70 INT/18 FTH. I'll try it when I get home. It probably will outperform dualwielded Gelmir Glintstone Staff.

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I farmed two in two hours at 9 arcane, and no added discovery items. Well worth it to get two for the stacked lava spell damage bonus, on top of Godfrey's icon even better. 50/50 faith/intelligence, for a level 160, it does quite nice.

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Snakes have what is called a “Hemi*****” this is a dual tip snake staff with twin red tips that help shoot hot loads.

Well played Elden Ring, well played.

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got the magma blade before this while farming... i dont know how to react to this.

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based droprate, thank you michaelzaki

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2nd try 216 discovery

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If you want to go very high int+fth, get prince of death's staff. Gelmir Staff is fantastic for lower numbers. I've got 42 int, 50 fth and this thing has 280 scaling. That's pretty much the best option for me, as I'm staying lvl 125 for pvp.

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When I was about to start farming this staff, I was expecting it to take me all day. FIRST TRY. Not joking. Technically second try, because I sweeped the room the first time, and then never returned until I was gonna get the staff. But ****ing first farm attempt.

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318 scaling at 80/80, are you kidding me fromsoft

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kinda funky that this staff has red glintstone embedded in it as the focus but has no link to blood magic or Arcane, given how every other mention of the stuff notes that it's created from crystalized sacrificial blood, or makes a connection to the Blood Star/Formless Mother.

Maybe Gelmir's magma is just a ****ton of molten red glintstone or something? maybe mixed with gravity-infused stone from the local Fallingstar Beast impact? Would be kinda wild.

Either way something about Gelmir is just....not right - even without Rykard and his shenanigans, the place has an unusually particular connection to death, serpents, and dark rituals, and the fact that Rykard was able to develop such an outright oxymoronic school of sorcery by studying Gelmiran hexes and the local lava flows makes even the ecology of the place feel cursed. I'd be fascinated to get more details about the place in the DLC hopefully

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Funny how the dual scaling seals are overpowered af and the dual scaling staffs are total dogshit.

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Idk if this was pure coincidence or what, but I could NOT get this damned thing to drop... until I went in there and killed the enemy that drops it *without having any ashes summoned* - it then dropped first try. Yeah...Idk...

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This should've been a dual Sorcery/Incantation catalyst for pyromancies.

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It is worth it to farm for two of them if you intend to use magma sorceries, definitely

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Does the damage boost stack when wielding two of them?

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Got it first try. It's karma for all the time it took to get the flamey swords.

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I always live reading these comments. Just trying to figure out what I'm gonna do for my next build and some guy is talking about this being his pimp cane, while another guy is going on a rant about split scaling...

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Getting one of these took way longer than the magma blades...but it's doable at 200 discovery. I'm not even gonna use it just collecting all available in-game weapons. Only one weapon to go...so now I gotta do a new game plus to kill those duelists pre-Ash Leyndell ugh.

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Im a warrior i only have this because it makes me look like a pimp

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You can put spinning weapon on it.

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This is one of those items I will never get in hundreds of hours of playing, only to randomly get multiple of on a character that couldn't use it.

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another weapon that i never knew existed until i randomly got it

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I got 2 in 3 runs lmao, time for Magma sorcerer build!

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that base drop chance is a big lie

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Got it the first time I used a silver fowlfoot

All skill, baby

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I wield this in my left hand at +25, with a +25 Prince of Deaths Staff in my right. That way I get the passive boost to my lava sorceries (that are Int/Faith based) while dealing more damage than I would just casting from the Gelmir Staff

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There are a lot of misconceptions about this staff and hybrid builds in general, so I'd like to clarify them a bit.
For starters, this is pretty much the best staff for FTH/ INT hybrid for pvp at meta levels. At 45/45 int/ fth Gelmir staff has 280 sorcery scaling, while Prince Of Death's staff has 266 scaling. POS only starts to outperform this staff at 50/50 split, which means it basically needs 10 extra levels worth of stats. POS in general, isn't really viable for pvp, since it scales similarly to quality affinity, and doesn't really get really good until insanely high levels.

Now to get to my next point, 280 sorcery scaling might not look super impressive on paper, especially if compared to pure catalysts like Regal Scepter/ Lusats at 80 Int, but it's actually quite decent if use it for it's intended purpose, aka casting Lava sorceries. Rycard's Rancour is a solid spell, and Roiling Magma is one of the most underrated spells in the game, easily being able to do 1k + damage to players with average fire resistance on full charge, and that's before accounting for any possible damage modifiers, like Fire physick tear, flames grant me strength, Graven Mass Talisman, Golden Vow etc...

But that's not the point. If your playing a hybrid build, you'll almost certainly want to pair it with Golden Order Seal. Every character has 10 spell slots. Since you already have relatively high faith investment, you'll almost certainly want to slot at least a couple of good buffs, because it's one of the perks of faith build. You'll also probably want at least a couple of offensive incantations, to make use of the Golden Order Seal.

This means that you'll have 2-3 spell slots left for sorceries, and that's what you'll use this staff for. The amount of Sorcery this staff has is more than enough for that.

On short, if your using this staff, on FTH/ INT hybrid, and then your using it to cast stuff like Swift Shard/ Carian Slicer, etc just like any other generic mage, then your obviously not gonna see impressive numbers , might as well make a separate pure int build for that.

The whole point of making hybrid build, and using hybrid catalysts is to use hybrid spells, that pure builds can't utilize.

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I just got it on my first try and laughed out loud after reading these comments

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Funny how something so rare for one is so common for the next. Have had quite a few of these drop but not a one magma sword. Same can be said for a few other rare and not so rare items. Envoy great horn or whatever it’s called has dropped for me numerous times. No Octo helm, blood whip, or damn magma sword tho.

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So I understand with the sorcery scaling the prince of death's staff becomes the better choice, but is that inclusive to the magma sorceries? I plan to use a character that has just magma sorceries for the magic options, so will this staff always out perform other staffs when it comes to magma sorceries?

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It is incredibly annoying how the “best” staff is an obtuse hunk of rock and this deliciously drippy staff is so useless.

Not gonna stop me from using it though.

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On my hybrid build I am using PoD staff but off handing this and using Magma Shot, incredibly powerful and fun

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got it first try

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I'll trade you a Man-Serpent's Shield for one

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Genuinely feel as though this isn't meant to be used. A ridiculously rare drop from an enemy there is only one of that can hardly be farmed , fitting a barely workable niche that has an objectively superior, easier to acquire option.

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You know, when you add descriptions like this, MAYBE you should also describe WHERE the throne room IS!

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One of the most tedious items to farm and its entirely useless

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Not sure if this is a fluke or not, but I’ve had about 5 play throughs now between two characters, and the staff has always dropped the first time I killed the man-serpent. After the first drop though, it’s been a grind to get a second staff in the same playthrough.

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280 sorcery scaling at 45/45 int/faith at +25. I know sorcery drew the short straw when it came to hybrid catalysts, but between this and prince of death's obscene 80/80 cap (266 scaling at 45/45) is just a kick in the teeth at this point. The only other hybrid staffs are the albinauric staff (325 scaling at 45/45 int/arc), and technically staff of the guilty (305 scaling at 80 faith).

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How's 11.11% a low drop rate? It is one of the biggest drop rates in the entire game. I farmed like 5+ weapons with 0.5% base drop rate and that was painful.

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Dropped first try with 324 discovery. Blessed.

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this ****ing thing wont drop for me

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this isn't great staff. I have tested it with all 50 stat using with magma shot. and despite having +10% increase with magma sorceries it did less damage (!!!) than albinauric staff and prince of death staff

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It's pretty **** because lava sorceries are a bad joke. If you want to play with magma just get the blade or whip. You will have much better damage at a much higher FP efficiency.

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Dropped on first attempt with 109 discovery.

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Dropped with 109 discovery.

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for how much it takes to get this staff and make it have good scaling, I think that the buff should be more significant. Why waste almost double the levels compared to just meeting the fth requirement and using any other staff, when the actual returns are almost negligible?

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I want the helmet...





P O T A T O

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At 49/49 this has the EXACT same Sorcery Scaling as the Prince of Deaths Staff.

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While its outperformed by other Glintstone staves at higher investment, I think this staff would pair well if you plan to run Sacred Seal with Glintstone Staff run focusing on Fire Spells and Incants since you wont be investing heavily into int after reaching around 40 int, pump the rest on faith since most Fire abilities are centered on incants, the Lava Sorceries are still good enough but why miss up additional spells for fun when you can have all of them.

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8 runs at 274 discover and 15 runs at 324 discover without a drop :(

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Lol this is literally a crutch. I mean LITERALLY like the ones in hospital

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don't remember even seeing this particular enemy wielding... i was going to use this chance to farm for another magma blade but ithe staff dropped on the first kill. It is 11.11% after all... should drop pretty consistently with high Disc

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don't bother with this staff even at 80 int and fth carian regal outperforms this thing, just get enough fth to cast rykards rancor and use the carian regal or lusats

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does the passive efffect buff lava ash of war like eruption and makar's sword?

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whyy is there no snow with staff?!?! DLC?

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does dual wielding this give you a 30% boost to magma? and is magma sorc considered physical or fire damage? if its fire does flame grant me strength boost it? thank you!

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I feel like this would have made more sense to scale mostly with int and a bit with fth considering most magma sorcery has a higher int requirement than fth, especially rykards rancor

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I just updated the Sor Scaling column in the table. Hopefully I did this right. I took all of my Int boosters off to show my base level

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Does this boost your magma sorceries if you hold it in your offhand and cast with a staff in your main hand similar to the staff of loss strat?

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Just dropped on my first kill.. I wondered why it wasn't on the Volcano Manor guide, then found out it's not guaranteed drop lol.

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Holy cats. I just got this to drop on only my second try, even without Silver Fowl-Foot. I just so happened to be a magic-user looking for it, too. I'm so thankful, knowing how low the drop % apparently is.

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Like 6 checks for 2, only (half of which where just happened to be in the area) XD

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I got this my first kill I thought it was garunteed lmaoo

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first try, Discovery 208

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my first farming run and my game crashed shortly after trying to return. Put me right in front of him again mid fight, so i fought him and it dropped!!!!

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Outperforms the PoD Staff up until 45/45 in terms of scaling, which is also where it softcaps. At 45/45 this has 280 while PoD has 266. However, just to compare: the Carian Regal Scepter at 80/10 int/fth has 373. So you'll be crippling your sorcery damage if you re-distribute your points equally between int and fth. If you take the 15% lava boost into consideration, you'll still only end up at 322 for Gelmir.

Imho the lava boost should be increased to +25%, that way you'd be at 350, which is still lower than the Scepter, but in exchange you'll have access to all the lava sorceries as well as incantations.

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Takes a full minute to get there & reset, but got it on my third try 274 Discovery.

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This staff really should have A scaling in Int/Fth it’ll never be able to compete with PoD staff for split builds beyond NG+. And it’s too bad because lava sorceries are 10x better than death sorceries

It’s fun to mess around with but if you’re at 55 int and Faith you’re better off using golden order Seal and running incantations mostly

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5th try 306 Discovery

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Expected to farm this for a few hours, got it my first run, i hate this game, makes the ez drops hard and the hard drops ez

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As for all Seals and staffs, if you're not a fan of the stats/scaling. Equip in your off hand and your primary at the same time to get the passive active

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Got it on my first kill with 274 discovery.

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Testing with a max-upgrade Gelmir Staff, putting 5 points at a time into Int or Faith and recording the Sorcery Scaling each time, here's the caps I found:

Each point of Int/Faith adds 3.6 Sorc Scaling until Int/Faith is at 30
Each point of Int/Faith adds 1.6 Sorc Scaling between 30 and 45
Each point of Int/Faith adds 0.55 Sorc Scaling after 45

so the soft cap for this staff is 30 and the hard cap is 45. Both Int and Faith have these caps, and both contribute equally to scaling.

Note that the Rykard's Rancor spell needs 40 int, so if you want the best bang for your stats using that spell and this staff, you'd probably want to go 40 int and 30 faith

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this staff has hard cap at 50 int and 30 faith
+ 20 Gelmir with 50/30 : 237
+ 20 Death staff with 50/30 : 227

+ 20 Gelmir with 56/30 : 240
+ 20 Death staff with 56/30 : 237

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I got 205 damage from a 144 regular Sorcery scaling staff. 236 damage from the gelmir staff at 143 sorcery scaling. 205x1.15=235.75
Seems the lava buff sorcery buff is 15%

Tested with magma shot on the closest godrick soldier from the church of Elleh.

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At 73/73 int/faith I get 394 scaling out of the death staff and only 311 out of this, with both at +25. Golden Order seal+10 is 379. Rather disappointing as I would have liked to have at least one option on choice of catalysts rather than being locked to just those two.
But I'm probably stacking int/faith to an arguably unreasonable degree.

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took me like 10 try with 70 arcane, silver scarab and silver-pickled

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Just updated to patch 1.03 and killed the staff-wielding manserpent for the first time (ever) and it dropped. Not trolling, did they make it 100% drop rate? Need confirmation.

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The boosting of this staff appears to be bugged. I have done numerous tests at several upgrade levels against staffs with identical Sorcery Scaling stat and it does not boost the damage of any lava sorcery. Anyone else have different results?

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This is a great staff for a Hexer build. Death Prince's Staff only ooutperforms it at very high values, you're better off sticking to 45/45 fth/int and then building up your other stats like 60 vig or 40 mind.

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Need to go from Temple of Eiglay Grace, up either the left or right lift, and continue until you reach a lake of lave. Follow the walkway past 2-3 more snake-men and you'll reach a room with an altar and the big snake boy you need to farm to get this staff... good luck

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Are lava sorcery’s decent in pve and pvp?

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Which staff do you ladies think is cuter for a faith build?
This or Prince of Death? UwU

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Scaling seems inferior to Prince of Death staff, which is a shame. Not sure what the sorc scaling equivalent of the lava buff is, though. Perhaps it manages to edge out the Prince of Death staff with lava magic? Could still be quite good with Rykard's Rancor if that's the case.

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Only took me 3 tries to get

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