Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone | Elden Ring Wiki

It´s funny how you get like 10 of this **** before you are able to actually use one.

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You only get 2637291 per NG? That's bullshit. How will I upgrade Bumblar's Kitchen Knife now?

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In ds3 i complained about limited slabs and i'll proceed to complain here about the limited ancient dragon stones here, because i'd rather fight godfrey + 2 lord's apparition at the same time than going through a whole world of ng+ just so i can upgrade the weapon my build needed but wasn't available till the very end, like the beastman cleaver. However, it isn't nearly as much of a problem here because weapons go up to +24 and that's enough for 90% of the situations. In ds3 you were stuck to +9 and it was kind of lame.

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Patches absolutely should be selling one (or a somber variant) at the end of his questline, even if at a price of 100k runes

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Here's an idea: Starting NG+ a small altar is added near Gransax's body in Ashen Leyndell. At this altar you can exchange... something for ancient dragon stones. Rune arcs or something else rare/valuable but farmable. Maybe at a rate of 25 arcs per ancient stone, or 40 for a somber. Plus it adds something new to a NG+ which is why DS2 best

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Argh, was drunk and upgraded hookclaws to +25 by mistake. Annoying, when I only have 3 left .. They should make more available, because its far to tedious when Im on NW+ and begin to try to get them all again...

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Titanite slab

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These are a bit of a luxury considering how small the upgrade from +24 to +25 is. The limit on somber ancient stones is a lot harsher since unique weapons benefit a lot more from the last upgrade.

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Anyone knows why everytime i upgrade my second weapon to +25, the game start to drop FPS from 60 to 1 or 2 FPS ?

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So is the dragon stone on the walkway where the first putrid avatar is and on you right as you exit the prayer room a somber stone?

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Do these hold over in New Game Plus?

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I don't agree with everyone who are saying the dragon, and somber dragon stones should be unlocked to buy from the maiden husks to buy in the NG+ playthroughs. I don't see why anyone would need to max out every weapon. Maybe having the option to trade a remembrance for one would be reasonable middle ground though.

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The Dragon Temple stone description need updating. It cost me an hour of searching from the original Dragon Tower grace. Instead, start at the Dragon Temple LIFT grace. Go down the elevator, get off, ignoring the enemy ahead and turn down the right corridor, then right again. Kill the enemy. You'll see a pillar leaning out toward the platform where the stone is. Go across the platform to the next one. Beware the beastman and dog. The stone is on your left. Bam, there you go.

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They went a bit far with this. Why there needs to be 25 levels of each weapon? 10 would be enough.

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Using these should change the appearance of your weapon when upgraded for a more legendary look. I mean, these are limited in quality, plus the stones themselves give glowing shiny effect. Upgrading to +25 or even +10 doesn't feel that special since it's like just another upgrade.

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Even though in the overworld, there are less no.8 smithing stones, but you can buy them from the twin maiden husks after beating the God-Skin Duo and giving them the bell bearing. But you cannot do the same for the Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones.

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There are a lot more of these than I was expecting. I only need three but like another comment has already said, it's the no.8 stones that are the problem. It doesn't make sense for there to be more ancient dragon stones available than the no.8 stones.

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They could have went the route of after you beat Horah Loux or even the last boss they would become available for purchase. Or have them available for trade with Rune Arcs or starlight shards.

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There has to be 14. I started collecting all of them and stopped once I realized I had 13 in total – 10 in inventory, 1 in my Uchigatana, and 2 I locked myself out of (Jerren and Garranq, who I killed by accident when he went berserk). Imagine my surprise when I started farming the Beastman's Cleaver, only to find I hadn't collected that one in Farum Azula. So now I'm sitting on 11 in inventory, with another 3 accounted for, as explained before. Couldn't say where I got the extra one, but it *is* at least 14 in total.

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Makes no sense how it's possible to get 10 Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones before Farum Azula, but even if you find every Smithing Stone (8) on the entire map you can't upgrade more than 2 weapons to +24 until you beat the Godskin Duo there

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I found 10 before Farum Azula, and I sided with Sellen instead of Jerren. Maybe I found a 14th? (No idea where it could've come fom) Maybe Sellen also gives one in newer releases?

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In Farum Azula, I'm not quite sure, considering there is one found by a dragon, but I believe I had one of those dragons drop one of these. I know the dragons drop gravel stones. But it may be something to look into. I DO know a Gold Aura item was on one of those Dragons, it was one of these stones.

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The dragon near Alexander on Farum Azula respawns and can drop one. Rate seems extremelly low

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really wish we could have a few more somber ancient dragon smithing stones in lieu of these. I mean how many weapons can you realistically get to +24 in a single playthrough without grinding? I'd guess 3 at most, considering you need 12 of each level smithing stone. Meanwhile you can easily get like 10 of each level somber smithing stone, and you only need one of each per weapon.

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I'm sitting at 11 and I sided with Sellen. I thought I should have 12. Have the two from Nepheli's quest. And I re-checked all of the other locations and no Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones are on the corpses. Only thing I can think of is the Night's Cavalry duo bosses didn't drop one. Or one of the pick-ups didn't register. Oh well.

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Can't From Software just make them unlimited by a seller for a very high Runes prices

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''after killing Maliketh, he (Gurranq) can be attacked''
he can be attacked at any time and upon defeat will drop the beast eye and an ancient dragon smithing stone.
just did it myself while only having defeated Godrick

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Last two map links are broken

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Last two map links are broken

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There is an entry missing:

In the consecrated snowfield, there is a noble stuck waist-deep in the snow, being dug out by two of his friends.

Kill him and transforms into a special Rune Bear, which drops a Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone on death.

(It might be a Somber one, I'm not 100% sure. If someone could check and confirm that would be much appreciated)

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Which one of these that you can get earliest?

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I keep getting these but i dont even have a single +24 weapon. T_T

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awww **** I killed Gostoc

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I'm fond of this weapon for a couple of reasons. It sucks that it doesn't have thrusting attacks like the claymore but it has:

1. Intrinsic bleed, so Occult is bae
2. For some reason you can mix and match certain weapon arts that aren't possible on most greatswords. You can do thrusting weapon arts like repeating thrust, or you can do katana weapon arts like doubleslash. It gives it an edge in pvp by being unique with what you can add to it.

Great dueling greatsword.

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Heres hoping they add them as a extremely rare drop in the dlc

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Killed Gostoc, so only 12 for me

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Here is the location in the map
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Interactive+Map?id=6398&lat=-69.28&lng=151.13&zoom=8&code=mapA

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Some [Map Link] don't work, take me to a page that says: "Page not Found! Double check the URL you accessed or use the search function to find the page you need."

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oh well, time to dup +25 weapons i guess...

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MAKE THEM FARMABLEEEEEEE

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killed both the knights guarding the consecrated fields caravan at night and neither of them dropped.

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Bruh, i gave all my deathroots to the beast bro and he gave me nuthin.
i gave him 3, then 6, should i have given it to him 1 by 1?

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Why are there 12 listed, aren't there 13? I have 12, and I sided with Sellen so I lose that one.

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There are TWO dependent on Nepheli's questline?!!! FFS I wish I hadn't given her that potion

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The dragon that flees in crumbling faram azula can be killed for one. I returned from the great bridge grace and it was quarter health. Killed it for a stone.

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Im very sure I found at least 3 of those bad boys in Crumbling Darum Azula so far. Two of those dropped after defeating a dragon, the other two was found at the described location.

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There's another one that's not listed here. After you finish the Storm Wybern Merdith fight, jump down the platform to the overhanging branch, east onto the pillar and jump down from there onto a floating platform. Follow the path and take your first left. It's just behind the chest which gives you a Pustulent Bolus.

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I got one from an NPC invader in the consecrated snowfield near the frozen river at night if I'm not mistaken.

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but between these and the somber ones you can max level up to 20 different weapons. I feel that previous souls games were way less generous with those. I remember only having like 1 or 2 slabs each playthrough for Holy or lightning infusions in ds1. And then you had to farm shards for hours.

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they should add a bearing for this and the somber ancients to ng+ or ++

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For the one listed in Mountaintop of the Giants, its at the BOTTOM of the waterfall, most easily accessed from Cave of Forlorn site of Grace

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Seriously, why are there 13 of these but only 8 of the Somber version?

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Can confirm there is one right behind Great Wyrm Theodorix, just above his resting spot. You don't have to beat the boss, you can run past it to the right and then up the parts of the cave jutting out to get to the corpse holding the stone.

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FS really should make it farmable. Why not? There was no problem with that in DS1

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You can cheese Guranq with rotten breath incantation to get it, but be careful because some of his attacks can clip through walls and will most likely one shot you

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This list is missing one, the first dragon you encounter in crumbling farum azula drops one, it's very easy to find, just continue along the intended path after the first grace site and said dragon will ambush you

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I have them but the game won’t let me use them.

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I have them but the game won’t let me use them.

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There’s another one in Haligtree on the other end of the bridge where the Erdtree Spirit is patrolling

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The Guranq one is a lie, i gave him all the deahtroots on my first playthrough + all on NG+ and haven't gotten a single Smithing stone.

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There is only one in farum azula

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For me one dropped after killing the dragon near dragon lift bonfire and that dragon respawns

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For me one dropped from the dragon near the dragon lift bonfire and that dragon respawns

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one in the blood area in front of the elevator to the boss, in a chest

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Right before you go up the elevator to fight Mohg there’s one surrounded by enemies in that room

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I got one from defeating an NPC invader on the path to the haligtree

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"You can store up to 600 Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone."

yeah let me get right on that one m8, just have to get to NG+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ first.

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updated, y'all can stop commenting that gostoc and nepheli give it

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Makes your weapons WEAKER!!!

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Completing Nepheli Loux's questline in 1.03 now rewards you with one too. And leaving Gostoc alive has him sell another in his store. (Unknown if killing him before completing the questline puts it in the Twin Sister Husks's shop)

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Found on a corpse guarded by a Beastman of Farum Azula in Crumbling Farum Azula, above the Crumbling Beast Grave Depths grace.
I'm stuck with this one, any helps?

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Nepheli gives you one when you finish her quest on the Throne behind the Godrick the Grafted boss arena (with the new patch), and the Gatekeeper Gostoc sells one too.( Behind the throne)

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Am I missing something? Searching for the one "above the Crumbling Beast Grave Depths grace" and all I only found a material to upgrade spirit summons.

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You get one for killing the dragon just outside of the Crumbling Beast Grave Depths as well. Pretty tough fight but was worth it lol

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you also get one if you kill qurranq

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is +25 still bugged and reduces ur dmg?

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Rather sad that we can't farm them like in dark souls 1 or bloodborne...

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Wanna be OP early? Pick a weapon or catalyst of your choice that upgrades with somber stones, and go:

(1): Plenty to be found in Limgrave; take your pick.
(2): Raya Lucaria crystal tunnels or Gael Tunnel
(3), (4), (5): Get teleported to Sellia Crystal Tunnels. Run around like a headless chicken and pick everything up. You can get a (4) and a (5) there. If you're not lucky enough to farm a (3) from the miners, you can pick an easy one up by the Four Belfries. And, if you're baller enough to kill the boss right away, you also got a (6), but Fallingstar Beast sucks early on.
(6), (7), (8) and (9): Lake of Rot. Go down the Ainsel River Well and keep going downstream, dodging everything. Unfortunately there's one boss you have to fight; the Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella. Easiest I found to do it is to bleed the hell out of him. All four of these stones can be found around the Lake of Rot before entering the Grand Cloister, with one of them on the elevated section you can raise out of the lake with the buttons.
Somber Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone: Do Varre's quest until you get the Pureblood Knight's Medal. Use it to go to Mohgwyn Palace. The somber ancient dragon smithing stone is in a chest in front of a bunch of albinaurics right before the bossfight. And there's an (8) and (9) in the area as well.

And there you have it.

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"Found on a corpse in a big skull south-east of Church of Repose. Once you spawn in, turn to the south-east and you will see a large skull. In its mouth is one found on a corpse."
"Found in a skull of a dead giant in Mountaintops of the Giants."


These are the same?

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Another one found in Consacrated Snowfield, under the frozen waterfall a short walk east of the Great Wyrm Theodorix fight.

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"Found on a corpse in the lower section of Yelough Anix Tunnel"
"Consecrated Snowfield: Looted from within Yelough Anix Tunnel. [Elden Ring Map here]"
Unless someone can tell me about where to look I think those are the same one.

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okay so there's a video here that shows 11 Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones , which ones is he missing???

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Very confused about this one:

Found on a corpse guarded by a Beastman of Farum Azula in Crumbling Farum Azula, above the Crumbling Beast Grave Depths grace.

I jumped on a roof and went to a crumbling upper level where I thought it was going to be but it was a Great Grave Glovewort. Maybe I already got it, I just can't find it, or they meant this glovewort?

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Gurranq will also simply drop one if you kill him

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After 4 hours of searching, i can tell you that the 4rth one doesnt exist:
"Found on a corpse guarded by a Beastman of Farum Azula in Crumbling Farum Azula, above the Crumbling Beast Grave Depths grace."

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If you side with Witch-Hunter Jerren during Sellens questline, he will reward you with another Ancient Draon Smithing Stone. So there are at least 11.

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these two are the same:

"Found in a chest on top of the tower before the Prayer Room site of Grace in Miquella's Haligtree."
"One can be found in a chest found by advancing in Miquella's Haligtree after defeating Loretta"

also the Yelough Anix Tunnel stone is listed twice. one of those should be replaced by the one by the magma wyrm boss at the consecrated snowfield frozen lake.

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"Found in a chest on top of the tower before the Prayer Room site of Grace in Miquella's Haligtree."
"One can be found in a chest found by advancing in Miquella's Haligtree after defeating Loretta"

These are the same one, aren't they?

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Someone who isn't lazy like me, add another way to get one is by killing Gurranq. I just killed him because I don't really care for incantations

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Are these somehow obtainable in unlimited quantity like in DS1/2 and BB or are they limited per ng cycle like in DS3?

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10 per playthrough and most seem somewhat accessible and hard to miss. I appreciate it's not so scarce as in ds3 where upgrading wep to max felt like commitment until you find more at the end of ng+

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The dragon behind Crumbling Beast Grave Depths drop 1. The dying dragon that guards Somber Ancient Dragon Stone near Dragon Temple Rooftop also drops 1.

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I think I recall finding one in the mouth of the dead huge giant, south-east of Church of Repose in the Mountaintops of the Giants.

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When Honest Merchant? I wanna get all my weapons to +25 and i absolutely refuse to do ng+

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There is a bug! The damage goes down with the Keen Enchantment (from +24 to +25)! Here is a video showing it: www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t9jsr7/weapon_upgrade_bug_lower_damage_with_keen/

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Above Great Wyrm Theodorix in the consecrated snow fields on a snowy platform

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The dragon near Crumbling Beast Grave drops one.

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For some reason why I try to upgrade my brick hammer using this item it lowers my overall damage. Not sure if this is a bug or what?

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If you kill Gurranq at the Bestial Sanctum instead of giving him all of the Deathroots he will drop the Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone. He’s a tough cookie though so be careful

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Jerren gives you one if you side with him over Sellen

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