Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone | Elden Ring Wiki

The quickest way to get one is by killing gurranq

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best way to grind these is to invade (preferably in limgrave as that's where the more skilless hosts beg those with even less self respect to trade weapons), wait until you see the orange light of an item on the ground, interrupt the host/phantom as fast as you can before they can pick it up and either sever out or stand your ground and take them out, managed to get 2 maxed magma wyrm swords, a zamor cs and a grafted blade gs + more from this method and to the few who'll most likely get mad at this guide i only say this: dupe some more for us reds, thanks!

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There's only 493,029 of these in one playthrough? Bad game design, how will I upgrade my Ooga Booga's Greatbonker Club now?

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Why couldn't they make these farmable or being able to be bought? Heck, make it some obscure thing like in Bloodborne where you can buy Infinite but need 60 Insight for one. Idk man, i'm just throwing out ideas.

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Somehow, Dark Souls 2 did it better. Really, Dark Souls 2 did a lot of things better, but the things it did worse completely sour any positive changes it made.

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So there’s no way to farm or buy these in the DLC?? What a wasted opportunity.

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for those wanting maxed weapons, go to r/patchesemporium and trade for them. usually goes pretty quick and easy for me

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These should be farmable like Titanite Slabs in Dark Souls.

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the second one listed in jagged peak (the one surrounded by 3 slimes) is actually a somber ancient! not a normal ancient

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Just let us buy these...

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Biggest misstep in the DLC is not giving a bell bearing to allow infinite purchasing of these and the somber version.

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So I was using str build for dlc and totally wasted spare ancient dragon stones on upgrading useless weapons and shields before finding beast claws, sword lance, Freyja's greatsword, dueling shield, milady (not str weapon but I still wanted to try it out) etc. I believed until the very end that there would be bell bearings for dragon slabs. Shouldn't have upgraded anything until finishing dlc, now I feel like total idiot. Well, ng+ it is

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So they added 8 normal stones and 4 somber ones in dlc. It's nice, but I really hoped they will add bell bearing for them or at least make them farmable...

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isnt there one in a chest in front of 10 ish albinaurics and assassin just before the lift to mogh, in moghwyn palace?

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Fun fact, you can get all of these stones before going to Ashen Capital (kinda obvious I know). But you can't get all Sombers unless you kill Maliketh and go to Ashen for the last one.

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Love getting stuck with a dozen of weapons for PvP because I don't want to NG+ my characters before the DLC is released. Sure there are two types of stones for a total of 21. But it doesn't help much because str or dex builds don't have a lot of somber options (and they are usually worse than infusable ones), while hybrid builds almost exlusively use somber weapons

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I miss farming Titanium Slab from Dark Wraiths back in DS1. They should've made this farmable as well.

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Witch Hunter Jerren gives you one if you help him

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Tbh, It's kinda stupid that in bloodborne you can get all your stuff to plus 10 eventually, even if it'll take forever, you can farm the recorces needed to get the last upgrade, yet, in elden ring, there's no chance other than New-gaming forever
They should just make it so you can buy them from the twin maddens after you defeat placidusax, or the elden beast! Just make them 100,000 runes or something a piece

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You either get yourself a +9 L2 spam blood knife, the edgelord's curved sword and the swish swoosh L2 spam magic katana before you even reach the capital or suffer through collecting each and every single smiting stone and doing Nepheli's quest, which no one cares about, so you can update your subpar regular ass GS/straight sword. Your choice.

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Nepheli also gives you one in the throne room when quest is completed. Go through all dialogue

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I may be taking crazy pills, but from the location list I only count 12, and it states 13 can be looted, am i losing my mind?

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"Found on a corpse on a floating platform north of the Dragon Temple, guarded by a Beastman" must have taken this one out, even watching the video and going to this spot, there isn't even the corpse there that you take it from.

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With all the Rivers of Blood abusers, I wonder how many players missed out on the Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone in the skull, near The Church of Repose?

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Well me personally can only ever find 4 per playthrough so this article is wrong, incorrect, fake.

Just kidding lol

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why is everyone complaining about this? maxing out 21 weapons in one playthrough is more than enough

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Under the "Locations" subheading, under the "Crumbling Farum Azula" bullet point, under location number 2, it should say that the closest site of grace is technically the "Dragon Temple Rooftop" if you've unlocked it to reach Alexander using stonesword keys. Head down the lift, walk through the doorway on the right, head right, kill the first beastman, head up the broken pillar, kill the dog and the beastman, and pick it up. Easy as pie.

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i dont know why everyone is complaining about. In endgame you can buy every smithing stones and smober smithing stones (beside the last one) if you get the bell bearings. It's possible to get all the weapons to +24 or +9 if you have the patience. To be honest you dont really NEED the last upgrade, only if you min-max. And to be honest, to be able to get 21 of the 308 weapons maxed out in one playtrough is more than enough

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Not only regular smithing stones are an absolute nightmare to get, but you have 4 of the slabs locked behind convoluted questlines... This has to be the worst upgrade system of any souls game so far.

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The sleeping Farum Azula Dragon near the Dragon Temple Lift site of grace also drops an Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.

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It´s funny how you get like 10 of this **** before you are able to actually use one.

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You only get 2637291 per NG? That's bullshit. How will I upgrade Bumblar's Kitchen Knife now?

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In ds3 i complained about limited slabs and i'll proceed to complain here about the limited ancient dragon stones here, because i'd rather fight godfrey + 2 lord's apparition at the same time than going through a whole world of ng+ just so i can upgrade the weapon my build needed but wasn't available till the very end, like the beastman cleaver. However, it isn't nearly as much of a problem here because weapons go up to +24 and that's enough for 90% of the situations. In ds3 you were stuck to +9 and it was kind of lame.

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Patches absolutely should be selling one (or a somber variant) at the end of his questline, even if at a price of 100k runes

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Here's an idea: Starting NG+ a small altar is added near Gransax's body in Ashen Leyndell. At this altar you can exchange... something for ancient dragon stones. Rune arcs or something else rare/valuable but farmable. Maybe at a rate of 25 arcs per ancient stone, or 40 for a somber. Plus it adds something new to a NG+ which is why DS2 best

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Argh, was drunk and upgraded hookclaws to +25 by mistake. Annoying, when I only have 3 left .. They should make more available, because its far to tedious when Im on NW+ and begin to try to get them all again...

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Titanite slab

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These are a bit of a luxury considering how small the upgrade from +24 to +25 is. The limit on somber ancient stones is a lot harsher since unique weapons benefit a lot more from the last upgrade.

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Anyone knows why everytime i upgrade my second weapon to +25, the game start to drop FPS from 60 to 1 or 2 FPS ?

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So is the dragon stone on the walkway where the first putrid avatar is and on you right as you exit the prayer room a somber stone?

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Do these hold over in New Game Plus?

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I don't agree with everyone who are saying the dragon, and somber dragon stones should be unlocked to buy from the maiden husks to buy in the NG+ playthroughs. I don't see why anyone would need to max out every weapon. Maybe having the option to trade a remembrance for one would be reasonable middle ground though.

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The Dragon Temple stone description need updating. It cost me an hour of searching from the original Dragon Tower grace. Instead, start at the Dragon Temple LIFT grace. Go down the elevator, get off, ignoring the enemy ahead and turn down the right corridor, then right again. Kill the enemy. You'll see a pillar leaning out toward the platform where the stone is. Go across the platform to the next one. Beware the beastman and dog. The stone is on your left. Bam, there you go.

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They went a bit far with this. Why there needs to be 25 levels of each weapon? 10 would be enough.

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Using these should change the appearance of your weapon when upgraded for a more legendary look. I mean, these are limited in quality, plus the stones themselves give glowing shiny effect. Upgrading to +25 or even +10 doesn't feel that special since it's like just another upgrade.

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Even though in the overworld, there are less no.8 smithing stones, but you can buy them from the twin maiden husks after beating the God-Skin Duo and giving them the bell bearing. But you cannot do the same for the Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones.

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There are a lot more of these than I was expecting. I only need three but like another comment has already said, it's the no.8 stones that are the problem. It doesn't make sense for there to be more ancient dragon stones available than the no.8 stones.

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They could have went the route of after you beat Horah Loux or even the last boss they would become available for purchase. Or have them available for trade with Rune Arcs or starlight shards.

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There has to be 14. I started collecting all of them and stopped once I realized I had 13 in total – 10 in inventory, 1 in my Uchigatana, and 2 I locked myself out of (Jerren and Garranq, who I killed by accident when he went berserk). Imagine my surprise when I started farming the Beastman's Cleaver, only to find I hadn't collected that one in Farum Azula. So now I'm sitting on 11 in inventory, with another 3 accounted for, as explained before. Couldn't say where I got the extra one, but it *is* at least 14 in total.

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Makes no sense how it's possible to get 10 Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones before Farum Azula, but even if you find every Smithing Stone (8) on the entire map you can't upgrade more than 2 weapons to +24 until you beat the Godskin Duo there

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I found 10 before Farum Azula, and I sided with Sellen instead of Jerren. Maybe I found a 14th? (No idea where it could've come fom) Maybe Sellen also gives one in newer releases?

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In Farum Azula, I'm not quite sure, considering there is one found by a dragon, but I believe I had one of those dragons drop one of these. I know the dragons drop gravel stones. But it may be something to look into. I DO know a Gold Aura item was on one of those Dragons, it was one of these stones.

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The dragon near Alexander on Farum Azula respawns and can drop one. Rate seems extremelly low

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really wish we could have a few more somber ancient dragon smithing stones in lieu of these. I mean how many weapons can you realistically get to +24 in a single playthrough without grinding? I'd guess 3 at most, considering you need 12 of each level smithing stone. Meanwhile you can easily get like 10 of each level somber smithing stone, and you only need one of each per weapon.

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I'm sitting at 11 and I sided with Sellen. I thought I should have 12. Have the two from Nepheli's quest. And I re-checked all of the other locations and no Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones are on the corpses. Only thing I can think of is the Night's Cavalry duo bosses didn't drop one. Or one of the pick-ups didn't register. Oh well.

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Can't From Software just make them unlimited by a seller for a very high Runes prices

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''after killing Maliketh, he (Gurranq) can be attacked''
he can be attacked at any time and upon defeat will drop the beast eye and an ancient dragon smithing stone.
just did it myself while only having defeated Godrick

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Last two map links are broken

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Last two map links are broken

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There is an entry missing:

In the consecrated snowfield, there is a noble stuck waist-deep in the snow, being dug out by two of his friends.

Kill him and transforms into a special Rune Bear, which drops a Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone on death.

(It might be a Somber one, I'm not 100% sure. If someone could check and confirm that would be much appreciated)

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Which one of these that you can get earliest?

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I keep getting these but i dont even have a single +24 weapon. T_T

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awww **** I killed Gostoc

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I'm fond of this weapon for a couple of reasons. It sucks that it doesn't have thrusting attacks like the claymore but it has:

1. Intrinsic bleed, so Occult is bae
2. For some reason you can mix and match certain weapon arts that aren't possible on most greatswords. You can do thrusting weapon arts like repeating thrust, or you can do katana weapon arts like doubleslash. It gives it an edge in pvp by being unique with what you can add to it.

Great dueling greatsword.

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Heres hoping they add them as a extremely rare drop in the dlc

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Killed Gostoc, so only 12 for me

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Here is the location in the map
https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Interactive+Map?id=6398&lat=-69.28&lng=151.13&zoom=8&code=mapA

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Some [Map Link] don't work, take me to a page that says: "Page not Found! Double check the URL you accessed or use the search function to find the page you need."

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oh well, time to dup +25 weapons i guess...

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MAKE THEM FARMABLEEEEEEE

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killed both the knights guarding the consecrated fields caravan at night and neither of them dropped.

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Bruh, i gave all my deathroots to the beast bro and he gave me nuthin.
i gave him 3, then 6, should i have given it to him 1 by 1?

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Why are there 12 listed, aren't there 13? I have 12, and I sided with Sellen so I lose that one.

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There are TWO dependent on Nepheli's questline?!!! FFS I wish I hadn't given her that potion

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The dragon that flees in crumbling faram azula can be killed for one. I returned from the great bridge grace and it was quarter health. Killed it for a stone.

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Im very sure I found at least 3 of those bad boys in Crumbling Darum Azula so far. Two of those dropped after defeating a dragon, the other two was found at the described location.

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There's another one that's not listed here. After you finish the Storm Wybern Merdith fight, jump down the platform to the overhanging branch, east onto the pillar and jump down from there onto a floating platform. Follow the path and take your first left. It's just behind the chest which gives you a Pustulent Bolus.

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I got one from an NPC invader in the consecrated snowfield near the frozen river at night if I'm not mistaken.

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but between these and the somber ones you can max level up to 20 different weapons. I feel that previous souls games were way less generous with those. I remember only having like 1 or 2 slabs each playthrough for Holy or lightning infusions in ds1. And then you had to farm shards for hours.

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they should add a bearing for this and the somber ancients to ng+ or ++

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For the one listed in Mountaintop of the Giants, its at the BOTTOM of the waterfall, most easily accessed from Cave of Forlorn site of Grace

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Seriously, why are there 13 of these but only 8 of the Somber version?

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Can confirm there is one right behind Great Wyrm Theodorix, just above his resting spot. You don't have to beat the boss, you can run past it to the right and then up the parts of the cave jutting out to get to the corpse holding the stone.

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FS really should make it farmable. Why not? There was no problem with that in DS1

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You can cheese Guranq with rotten breath incantation to get it, but be careful because some of his attacks can clip through walls and will most likely one shot you

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This list is missing one, the first dragon you encounter in crumbling farum azula drops one, it's very easy to find, just continue along the intended path after the first grace site and said dragon will ambush you

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I have them but the game won’t let me use them.

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I have them but the game won’t let me use them.

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There’s another one in Haligtree on the other end of the bridge where the Erdtree Spirit is patrolling

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The Guranq one is a lie, i gave him all the deahtroots on my first playthrough + all on NG+ and haven't gotten a single Smithing stone.

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There is only one in farum azula

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For me one dropped after killing the dragon near dragon lift bonfire and that dragon respawns

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For me one dropped from the dragon near the dragon lift bonfire and that dragon respawns

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one in the blood area in front of the elevator to the boss, in a chest

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Right before you go up the elevator to fight Mohg there’s one surrounded by enemies in that room

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I got one from defeating an NPC invader on the path to the haligtree

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"You can store up to 600 Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone."

yeah let me get right on that one m8, just have to get to NG+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ first.

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updated, y'all can stop commenting that gostoc and nepheli give it

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Makes your weapons WEAKER!!!

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Completing Nepheli Loux's questline in 1.03 now rewards you with one too. And leaving Gostoc alive has him sell another in his store. (Unknown if killing him before completing the questline puts it in the Twin Sister Husks's shop)

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