Sorceress Sellen

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Location Limgrave, Waypoint Ruins 
Weeping Peninsula
Witchbane Ruins
Role Merchant and Quest NPC
Voiced By  Kezia Burrows

Sorceress Sellen is a Merchant and NPC in Elden Ring. She can be found inside the Waypoint Ruins, far east from where you first arrive in Limgrave. She can teach you Sorceries. She can also be made available as an NPC Summon for specific battles.

 

Tarnished, are we? A wonder you should turn up here.
I am Sellen, a sorcerer, quite plainly. Why are you here?

 

Sorceress Sellen Location in Elden Ring

  • She is found standing near a treasure chest within the Waypoint Ruins in the central-east part of Limgrave. Players can reach her after defeating the  Mad Pumpkin Head. After defeating the boss, the Site of Grace "Waypoint Ruins Cellar" appears in their boss room, allowing easy access to Sellen's services. Map Link for Waypoint Ruins.
  • Sorceress Sellen can also be found kept prisoner at Witchbane Ruins, however, other than speaking to her, nothing can be done with her here until progressing far enough into her quest line. Be warned, attacking Sellen here can cause issues with her availability as a merchant elsewhere and stall progression in her quest line.
    This can be resolved by seeking absolution at the Church of Vows.
    Map Link for Witchbane Ruins.
  • She can be summoned to aid in the Red Wolf of Radagon boss fight, after progressing her quest line to the point that she leaves for the Raya Lucaria Academy.
  • Once the player has progressed her quest line far enough, two new summon signs will appear at the entrance to the Raya Lucaria Grand Library, offering the player a choice between assisting her (gold sign) or challenging her (red sign).

 

Elden Ring Sorceress Sellen Shop

Item Name Item Type runes currency elden ring wiki guide 18Purchase Value Availability
Glintstone Pebble Sorceries 1,000 Always
Glintstone Stars Sorceries 3,000 Always
Glintstone Arc Sorceries 1,500 Always
Crystal Barrage Sorceries 1,500 Always
Scholar's Armament Sorceries 3,000 Always
Scholar's Shield Sorceries 2,500 Always
Glintblade Phalanx Sorceries 2,500 Requires Royal House Scroll
Carian Slicer Sorceries 1,500 Requires Royal House Scroll
Great Glintstone Shard Sorceries 2,000 Requires Academy Scroll
Swift Glintstone Shard Sorceries 600 Requires Academy Scroll
Glintstone Cometshard Sorceries 12,000 Requires Conspectus Scroll
Star Shower Sorceries 10,000 Requires Conspectus Scroll
Shard Spiral Sorceries 8,000 After siding with her at the end of her questline

 You can choose among the following options while talking to Sorceress Sellen:

  • Study sorcery: Learn a sorcery from Sellen in exchange for Runes.
  • Give a scroll: Give Sellen a sorcery scroll key item to add the sorceries contained within it to Sellen's merchant inventory.
  • Give letter of introduction: After receiving the Letter of Introduction from Preceptor Seluvis, you can then speak with Sellen about it. She will inform you that General Radahn must be defeated in order to restore the movement of the stars, which will reveal a way to access the lost city of Nokron.

 

Sorceress Sellen Questline: How to complete Sorceress Sellen's Quest

  • Sellen can first be encountered at the Waypoint Ruins, after defeating the Mad Pumpkin Head guarding her room. She will introduce herself as the Graven Witch. Should you accept her offer to study sorceries under her, you will be able to pursue her quest line. Learning enough sorceries from her will unlock more dialogue from her.
  • (optional) Progress Ranni's quest until you're asked to find Blaidd in Siofra River.  He will ask you to question Seluvis for information, who will direct you to Sellen for that information.
  • Find Primeval Sorcerer Azur north of Hermit Village on Mt. Gelmir, you will need to circle all around the volcano to find him [Map Link] He will give you the sorcery Comet Azur upon interacting with him.

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  • Go back and speak with Sellen. She will give you a special glinstone key and task you with finding the sorcerer Master Lusat.
  • (this step can be done now or skipped and left until the very end of the questline) Go to Caelid and find the secret cave Sellia Hideaway, hidden behind an invisible wall. [Map Link]. Deep inside Sellia Hideaway, at the bottom of a chasm filled with crystal ledges, you will encounter a glinstone barrier blocking access to a very small cave. Interact with the barrier to open it using Sellen's key. Inside, you will find Master Lusat. Interact with him to learn the spell Stars of Ruin. Return to Sellen and she will reward you with a Starlight Shard.20220303204847 1
  • Return to Sellen after defeating Starscourge Radahn. She will request that you meet her in person at the Witchbane Ruins where she will give you Sellen's Primal Glintstone.
  • If you haven't done so yet, travel back to Redmane Castle where Witch-Hunter Jerren can be found sitting in the throne room. Speak with him and exhaust his dialogue. Afterwards, reset the area by resting at any Site of Grace. This should cause Castle Redmane to return to the enemy-filled state it was in before the Radahn Festival event began.
  • Return to Witchbane Ruins where you will find Jerren standing in the room with a now deceased Sellen. Once again, speak with Jerren and exhaust his dialogue.
  • Journey to the Three Sisters area and locate the ruins on the right side of the approach up to Ranni's Rise. You must locate an illusory floor that must be struck to reveal. The location of the illusory floor is shown below.

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  • Within this secret basement of dolls, there is an illusory wall just to the left of the glowing message that says "Seluvis's puppet. Do not touch." On the other side of the illusory wall is a room containing a doll duplicate of Sellen, where you can insert the Primal Glintstone by interacting with it. After speaking with the now revived Sellen, she will resume selling sorceries at this location until Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon is defeated.

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  • After completing the previous steps and defeating Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon, fast travel to the Raya Lucaria Grand Library Site of Grace. Right outside the entrance should be two summon signs.
    • The gold summon sign offers the option to assist Sellen, where you will need to aid her in fighting Witch Hunter Jerren:
      • Defeating Witch-Hunter Jerren will reward you with the Eccentric Set. You can then revisit the spots where you first encountered Master Azur and Master Lusat to find their armor sets (Azur's Glintstone Set and Lusat's set, respectively) laying on the ground where they once were. 
      • After the fight, you can find Sellen standing inside the Grand Library where Renalla once was, with Renalla sadly sitting off to the side of the room. Speak with Sellen and exhaust her dialogue to receive the Glintstone Kris and have the sorcery Shard Spiral added to Sellen's merchant inventory.
      • Sellen will remain where she stands in the Grand Library until you have completed the part of her quest line to find Master Lusat. Once that part of her quest line has been completed, reset the area. You will find that Sellen will have moved to the side of the room and transformed into a School of Graven Mages (beside of which can be found her Witch's Glintstone Crown) and Rennala will have returned to her original position in the center of the room. Despite Sellen's "condition," you can still purchase sorceries from her at any time by speaking with her.
    • The red summon sign offers the option to challenge Sellen, where you will need to aid Witch Hunter Jerren in defeating Sellen:
      • Defeating Sellen will reward you with the Witch's Glintstone Crown and Sellen's Bell Bearing.
      • Jerren can be found afterwards, standing just outside the entrance to the Grand Library. Speak to him and he will reward you with an Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.
      • At this point, Jerren can still be killed in order to obtain the his armor set, the Eccentric Set.
      • If you choose this option and kill Sellen, you will not be able to get the Lusat Set and Azur Set until your next game cycle.

 

Dialogue in Elden Ring: Sorceress Sellen

Introduction

  • Tarnished, are we? A wonder you should turn up here.
    I am Sellen, a sorcerer, quite plainly. Why are you here?

When attacked

  • What's the meaning of this? How unfortunate. <disappears>
  • You sadden me, my apprentice.
  • (On player kill) For a time, I believed us kindred spirits. My apprentice...

After you say you want to learn sorcery

  • Ahh, a yen for glintstone sorceries? Well, your aptitude does appear...passable. But one must choose one's masters wisely.
    I was exiled from the Academy of Raya Lucaria, as a reviled, apostate witch. Do you still wish to learn from me?

I still want to learn

  • Well, you are a piece of work. Very well. You are now my protégé in glintstone sorcery. But I refuse to coddle. Or cast kind words. Never.
    Anticipate grievances, young apprentice.
    [Nod in Thought Gesture received]

Visit

  • Young apprentice, first things first. You are a tadpole when it comes to magic. Infantile. Without the legs to walk.
    So, to become a sorcerer, first, you must face your ignorance. Now, shall we start learning?
 


 

 

§ After buying some sorceries  ( 日本語)

Our powers draw upon the powers embedded in glintstone,
but what is the nature of such power?

Glintstone is the amber of the cosmos,
golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life and houses its vitality,
while Glintstone contains residual life.

And thus, the vitality of the stars.

It should not be forgotten that glintstone sorcery is the study of the stars and the life therein.

 

 


 

Giving her the Royal House Scroll

  • Oh, is that a scroll? Takes me back to my academy days. Very well. This is sorcery with which I'm not entirely unfamiliar. I'll be sure to incorporate it into one of your lessons. Never lose that inquisitive spirit, my apprentice.

While imprisoned at Witchbane Ruins

  • It will do no good, I swear it...and yet you persist, you frothing degenerates...A...argh!
 


 

 


Well, well...
Seluvis is not a name I ever wanted to hear again...
But, fine.
If it will help you, my apprentice,
I offer my knowledge.

The stars alter the fate of the Carian royal family.
And the fate of your mistress, Ranni.

But long ago, General Radahn challenged the swirling constellations,
and in a crushing victory,
arrested their cycles.

Now, he is the force that repulses the stars.

If General Radahn were to die,
the stars would resume their movement.
And so, too, would Ranni's destiny.

 

 


 

 

Show Azur's sorcery

  • Ah, then you have seen Master Azur. Master Azur was a founding glintstone sorcerer, and my first teacher. A stern judge of men, but he must have seen something in you. You make us both proud. We can speak more later, my apprentice.

§Tell me your story

  • If you recall, I was exiled from the Academy of Raya Lucaria. It was for attempting to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. The toothless pedantry peddled by the Carian royal family can rot for all I care. I want glintstone sorceries that open our minds, unbound by terrestrial taboos. No matter what we give in return. My apprentice. I presume nothing. Teacher and student are not bound to tread the same path. But hear me out, my apprentice. I need your help to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. Perhaps this is a journey we could take together?
  • (Let's journey together) Splendid. I thank you. This pleases me. It's been far too long since I found a fellow kindred spirit. You must have a fabulous teacher.

I have a favour to ask

  • I need your help, my apprentice. Master Lusat is another founding glintstone sorcerer. And like Master Azur, he was banished from the academy. Now he languishes, imprisoned somewhere. My apprentice, can you find Master Lusat? With this glintstone key, you should be able to cross the boundary that encloses him.
  • I need him to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. He's nigh a child of the stars, such is his body now...

Lead on Lusat

  • After his expulsion from the academy, I heard that Master Lusat returned to his home. A place called Sellia, in the eastern Caelid Wilds. Thinking about it, I obtained the glintstone key I gave you from a Sellian sorcerer. It wouldn't be too much of a leap to suppose he's still cooped up nearby.

After meeting Master Lusat

  • My apprentice. Give me a moment later. I have a favour to ask.
  • Who could've guessed. What a place to find Master Lusat...You have my gratitude. This is all your work. I am truly pleased to have you as an apprentice, and a kindred spirit. This is a mere token of my thanks. Please, take it.
  • This brings us a full step closer. The bodies of Masters Azur and Lusat can be admitted to the academy. If only I could undo these wretched shackles...

About the request

  • The form you see before you is merely a projection. My body lies elsewhere. But the academy's shackles prevent it being moved. My body is on the Weeping Peninsula, at the southern tip of the Lands Between, imprisoned in the ruins just down from the Church of Marika, past the plain of the Wandering Mausoleum. Can you make the journey to my body? I have something that I can only trust with you. 

At Witchbane Ruins (after hearing about her request)

  • My apprentice, thank you for coming. These shackles take a toll on us all. There is something I need you to look after. My primal glintstone. A star has fallen, and my fortunes waver. someone may come for my life. And so, I entrust it with you. My self.
  • Thank you...my apprentice... This...is my essence. Please, treat it with care.
  • Treat it with care, my apprentice... What you hold is my very being...

Using Sellen's Primal Glintstone in the secret room at the Three Sisters

  • My apprentice, just how long has it been? Thank you. You've helped me fill a new body, once again. And it's truly a gem. Young and full of vigor, a snug fit for my Primal Glintstone. Better still, I've shed those awful shackles. Finally, I can return to the academy. To expel the Carian royal family, and restore the primeval current. My dear apprentice, I owe this all to you.

Challenging Jerren

  • Jerren, bringer of my death.
    You have my gratitude. For freeing me from my shackles.
    But I am afraid your work is done.
    Join the school. To reflect on your mistake.

 After defeating Jerren

  • Ahh, my apprentice.
    You've saved my skin once again.

    Do you see this? The Queen of Caria is no more.
    With the bodies of Masters Azur and Lusat returned, the academy can hone the primeval current.
    So that we, fallen children of the stars, shall beam with brilliance once again.
    My apprentice. Will you stay with us, here at the academy?
    Oh, I know it's not possible.
    You have your own calling. To be the next Elden Lord.
    But do think of me.
    Of your teacher. On the eve of your crowning.
    You will always be my darling pupil.
    Rest assured that I...
    No, the entire academy, will swear allegiance to the new monarch.
    My apprentice. Become Elden Lord.
  • Hmm. Perhaps I'm jumping ahead,
    but here is a symbol of my allegiance, and the academy's.
    (gives Glintstone Kris)
    Do you recall what I once told you?
    That glintstone is the amber of the cosmos, and sorcery is the study of the stars, and the life therein.
    When you become Elden Lord, please illuminate me.
    Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring.
    Next time, I will be your student.
  • Oh, one last thing.
    If you fail to claim your throne,
    you can always pay me a visit.
    Oh, don't fret. Even my dullest pupils will always have a place here.

After reloading the area

  • U...urgh. M-my...apprentice...I-I'm...

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  • (Subsequent Visits)
    There you are, my apprentice. Shall we commence the lesson?
    .
  • (Talking again without reloading)
    You wish to continue the lesson? Very well, I have time aplenty.

 

Elden Ring Notes & Trivia for Sorceress Sellen

  • You can give Sellen the Royal House Scroll to add the sorceries Glintblade Phalanx and Carian Slicer to her merchant inventory.
  • You can give Sellen the Academy Scroll to add the sorceries Great Glintstone Shard and Swift Glintstone Shard to her merchant inventory.
  • You can give Sellen the Conspectus Scroll to add the sorceries Glintstone Cometshard and Star Shower to her merchant inventory.
  • In combat, Sellen wields a Carian Glintstone Staff and can cast Crystal Release, Shattering Crystal, Founding Rain of Stars, and Glintstone Cometshard.
  • Completing Sorceress Sellen's questline will affect the boss fight with Sir Gideon Ofnir, the All-Knowing,  preventing him from casting Comet Azur.
  • Despite being located in a no combat zone, the orb form Sellen transforms into at the end of her questline can be killed by the damaging roll of the Briar Set. With all 4 pieces equipped alongside the Ritual Sword Talisman at full health, each roll with deal 30 damage. She drops 1000 runes on death (base, NG) but can't be permanently killed and will respawn upon reloading the area. 
  • The dialogue/lore in game that suggests that Sellen was the one whom created the Graven Mages is backed up by the fact that her mentor was Master Azur, the founder of the Karolos Conspectus, whose masks are notably spared from being incorporated into any of the Spheres. The Karolos Sorcerers are also the most plentiful type encountered throughout the academy, and world in general save for places still held by Carians, where Lazuli sorcerers still reside.

    Furthermore, paintings of the founding sorcerers found throughout the academy (except for the ones hanging in the debate parlour) are positioned such that Lusat's and the Lazuli founder's are either on their side or upside down, whereas Azur's are positioned properly. A notable few of these are on the secret path that's before the debate parlour, the one leading to the Graven School Talisman that rests upon an inert Graven Mage (part of the world geometry; not an enemy to fight). The implication here being that Sellen had a certain level of disdain for the other conspectuses, explaining her willingness to use their sorcerers in her experiments in creating the seeds of new stars, ultimately resulting in the making of Graven Mages.

  • Sellen's name in the Japanese release is "セレン"/"Seren", which could be translated as Sellen or Seren; given her voice actor has a Welsh accent and the ubiquitous use of the Welsh language in Elden Ring's world, it could be that her name is in some way linked to the Welsh word "Seren", meaning "star", which would thematically align with the Glintstone sorceries she practices that draw on the power of stars.

Sorceress Sellen Image Gallery

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    • Anonymous

      Imagining Rennala noticing the ballification after several hours, then slowly but steadily scooching her chair back to the centre of the room, is very funny.

      • Anonymous

        if intelligenec is low, she seems to have a slightly different first dialogue.
        My game is translated, so I dont have the exact words, but starting as an astrologer or as a vagabond and going to her first thing gave slightly different comment (passable versus "dont seem suited for" followed by a remark that anyone should be allowed to try to learn)

        • I kinda wish there was an ending for her quest that ended well. But that's just how Fromsoft games are, I guess.

          Also, as much as I like her as a teacher, she is something of a mad scientist with grand ambitions and somewhere between few scruples and none. I still sided with her, because I like my sorcery teacher more than some weirdo I met at the euthanasia party for his old boss. (And because I don't really need the Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.)

          I like to think that after I become Elden Lord I go back to tell her about the secrets of the Elden Ring, as she said she wanted me to before she lost the ability to speak normally. (As a result of merging with her Sorcery pals into a horrifying amalgamation of glintstone crowns that can still somehow teach me sorcery).

          • Anonymous

            My quest bugged I gave Conceptus scroll to Selvius but locks sellens quest but on conceptus scroll's page it said there is no consequence in giving it to someone else. I did learn the spells and checked Inventory and got them all I just finished Ranni's story so should be no reason why other then she does not have all the spells. NG+ I guess rip

            • Anonymous

              killed radahn and defeated the queen before i ever even knew at this quest. next thing i know i'm minding my damb business exploring witch bane ruins for the first time and there she is. am i locked out of her quest? never got the thing that revives her

              • Anonymous

                Her blustering about “The Queen of Caria is no more.” and then just hiding her behind one of the bookcases is hilarious and cute.

                • Anonymous

                  Okay i did this **** without looking at the wiki and googling, by pure accident, and now reading back, what the actual **** is this questline? i legit would have never done this quest if i didnt just want to respec to try spellcasting on my original character

                  • Anonymous

                    So to be able to summon Sellen against the Red Wolf, you have to defeat Radahn and go to Mt Gelmir before going to Raya Lucaria? Sometimes it feels like this game's "quests" are really just a series of related easter eggs

                    • Anonymous

                      Minor note, jerren won't always be at the witchbane ruins. These are the steps i went through
                      - Redmane castle, killing misbegotten and crucible knight
                      - Progress Ranni quest to the point where you're trying to figure out how to get to Nokron
                      - Go back to Redmane castle, talk to Jerren about Iji, then Iji about Jerren. Trigger radahn festival that way
                      - Kill Radahn.
                      - Later, start Sellen questline like normal. Find Azur, show Sellan, get key, find Lucat, get Sellan
                      - She tells us to go to witchbane ruins. go there.
                      - Jerren is not there. Jerren is not at radahn castle. Radahn castle has already reverted.
                      - Sellan is not dead, but still chained up, and will give you her glintstone.
                      - Rest of quest progresses as normal.

                      • Jerren is chad but Sellen is my wife, also 3 sets are better than 1 measly dragon stone, esp for lower-level builds. Ah, and "Nod in thought". Cant kill person who gave me best gesture in the game.

                        • Anonymous

                          there’s a great many sweaty in the thread below choosing sellen’s side based solely on being down horrendous, but it really makes better sense lore-wise to help jerren, esp. if you’ve done ranni’s quest. i’m not a ranni simp by any means and don’t even really like her, but blaidd & iji are better allies during the game and the entire carian getup is swag as hell, they’ve got way more going on than a bunch of outcast serial killer sorcerers who can’t stop staring into stars and burning their skulls through. i’d rather the carian family rule than the graven lot weirdos. i do understand int builds are concerned abt getting the magic-buff armor sets though

                          • Anonymous

                            I like how she’s nice to me it makes me feel happy and warm I hope she always loves me I’m her good little apprentice I’ll make her proud I love her so much

                            • Anonymous

                              You can just do this quest at the end of the game when you already have comet azur, saves a trip.
                              If you can't find Jerren, he'll be besides her at witchbane ruins after reloading the area after she's given you the primal glintstone.
                              Then just proceed as normal

                              • Anonymous

                                There must be a glitch that breaks this quest cuz I have done this quest 5 times and now im trying to complete it for a friend but I am at the part where I am supposed to give her the glintstone and there is NO prompt. Nothing. I have rested at graces, restarted the game, and this on ps5. Please tell me someone has run into this issue and has an answer for what went wrong cuz I am smashing my head against the wall

                                • There are 13 Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone in 1 Playthrough but only 1 Sellen. I'll just make it 12, so I can have Sellen as Head of Raya Lucaria after I'm Elden Ring.
                                  Then let's see what happens when Ranni and Sellen meets. lol

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Im planning side with jerren but I forgot to tell sellen about lusat, can i tell her in three sisters? Or only in waypoint ruin and raya lucaria?

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Sellen
                                      "It should not be forgotten that glintstone sorcery is the study of the stars"
                                      DS2's Astrologist set
                                      "Astrologists believe that magical powers can be obtained at moments of special heavenly alignment."

                                      • Anonymous

                                        i want her to observe me as i learn sorceries with her and come up behind me to get a closer look and lean on me while she watches intently as i cast spells awooga awoooga

                                        • Anonymous

                                          "If you haven't done so yet, travel back to Redmane Castle where Witch-Hunter Jerren can be found sitting in the throne room. Speak with him and exhaust his dialogue. Afterwards, reset the area by resting at any Site of Grace. This should cause Castle Redmane to return to the enemy-filled state it was in before the Radahn Festival event began."

                                          The guide makes it seem like you can find Jerren at the throne room at any time (prior to meeting Sellen at Witchbane Ruins) but if you, like me, like to see as much of the NPC interactions as possible, you better do this as early as this is available (probably right after beating Radahn). I looked for Jerren in the throne room but he wasn't there, guess I was too late in the game for it, and probably missed some dialogue lines.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            i want her to hold me. i cant believe im down bad for this woman. does it even qualify as down bad? i just want her to be my friend and hold me and caress me. i want her to squeeze me and praise me for my successes in sorcery after a lesson and i want her to offer me shelter and comfort in the hardships of the lands between. i want to nuzzle into her and fall asleep in her arms am i a simp

                                            • Anonymous

                                              i wish there was more hug options (like fia's) or at least a fangame with more affection i want her to hug me anfd give me a little kiss and i want her to tell me she loves me

                                              • Anonymous

                                                Also do note that you can summon her for the Red Wolf of Radagon fight after you've resurrected her. The quickest way to do this is by taking the iron virgin transporter to Gelmir to get to Azur, and keep following the quest as normal. Its a little bit of a wierd order, but perfectly doable.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  Also do note that you can summon her for the Red Wolf of Radagon fight after you've resurrected her. The quickest way to do this is by taking the iron virgin transporter to Gelmir to get to Azur, and keep following the quest as normal. Its a little bit of a wierd order, but perfectly doable.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    I think she is actually one of the more eviler characters in the game. Kinda a mad scientist type, doing blatantly unethical experiments on her (probably unwilling) colleagues. Might be an unpopular opinion though...

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Get unusual behavior for her quest
                                                      1) it is NG+
                                                      2) speak with her just once in the beginning
                                                      2) I did not speak with any NPC of her quest line
                                                      3) Kill all bosses before capital (starting with Rykard)
                                                      4) Seluvis is dead by that point
                                                      5) after that, speak with her start her quest line (she give me her stone)
                                                      6) process normally until she killed
                                                      7) just kill Jerren as I see him in her jail
                                                      Here the unusual part
                                                      8) still able to resurrect her at puppet cellar
                                                      9) she appear at Ranní room
                                                      10) immediately turn to stone thing after rest

                                                      So, probably it is not required to speak with Jerren or actual choose the side by summon signs

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        missing some dialogue: if you talk to her at the academy if you havent told her about lusat and turned her into a ball yet, she will greet you differently
                                                        "Ahh, my apprentice. I am glad to see you. Would you like a lesson? I am always happy to further your education." / "You wish to resume the lesson? Good. It is best to finish what one starts, is it not?"

                                                        there should be a place for unused dialogue, too...there's unused dialogue in which she refers to you as her beloved apprentice

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          this game would be much better if you could hug sellen and have her call you "my apprentice" in that one tone...

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            I regret aiding Sellen now that I know her miserable condition after the fight. That and because I didn't realize I could have killed Jerren after the fight to get his armor set (and because I have no ancient dragon smithing stone now)

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              The dialogue for when you attack her at Witchbane Ruins isn’t on this page. I forgot what it is even though it just happened. Anyway, she musters up enough strength to cast glintblsde phalanx one time while chained up.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                surprising to witness bad game design by From Software. Sellen's at two states at the same time (safe and sound in Limgrave and imprisoned at the Witchbane Ruins). you can travel back and forth as you will, she's at these two places simultaneously.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  "If you haven't done so yet, travel back to Redmane Castle where Witch-Hunter Jerren can be found sitting in the throne room. Speak with him and exhaust his dialogue. Afterwards, reset the area by resting at any Site of Grace. This should cause Castle Redmane to return to the enemy-filled state it was in before the Radahn Festival event began."

                                                                  This part is optional. I only talked with Jerren during Radahn festival and was able to finish Sellen's questline. When I went to Witchbane Ruins to retrieve Sellen's Primal Glintstone from her, I reloaded the area and Jerren was standing next to her.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    why do i have to ask on twitch where mage teacher is? why cant he be on starting main route?! thats such a wrong decission fromsoft. the same like this empty open world with rocks, mountains, meadows

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      Sellen was imprisoned in witchbane when seluvis told me to see her for ranni's questline will the questline continue if i kill radahn to save her

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        If you find Lusat before helping her kill Jerren, you might have to reload the area twice. Once to get her to move into the library and again for her to recognize you finding him.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          For people still finding the conclusion to her story sad, read up on the Graven-Mass Talisman;

                                                                          "The primeval current is a forbidden tradition of glintstone sorcery. To those who cleave to its teachings, the act of collecting sorcerers to fashion them into the seeds of stars is but another path of scientific inquiry."

                                                                          It was by Sellen's own choice that she be turned into a Graven Mass, alongside Lusat and Azur. To her, she's achieved one of her biggest goals. I don't think that's tragic.

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            "Learning enough sorceries from her will unlock more dialogue with her."

                                                                            This part is incorrect. I gave her all 3 scrolls and learned every single spell, yet still she offers no additional dialog. More dialog options are unlocked by something else.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              If you don't find Lusat, she will stay human in Raya Lucaria Academy BUT Rannala does not return so you will be unable to use larval tear until you truly finish Sellen's questline, as far as I know.

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                I don't like the filthy mage
                                                                                I don't have a foot fetish
                                                                                I don't like the filthy mage
                                                                                I don't have a foot fetish
                                                                                I don't like the filthy mage
                                                                                I don't have a foot fetish
                                                                                I don't like the filthy mage
                                                                                I don't have a foot fetish
                                                                                I don't like the filthy mage

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  What exactly are the requirements to get Sellen to help you with the red wolf. I'm just curious. How far along her quest? Most people will do rennala after godrick as it's the recommended route, instead of going to caelid then to liurnia which doesn't advance her questline much

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    Finishing this quest and coming back to find her in that form only able to say "My a-apprentice..." was heartbreaking lol. "Why is always despair?"

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      If you finish her quest without ever finding Lusat, She won’t be turned into a ball. And will just stay where Renalla was. I tried not finding Lusat and after finishing her quest, I tried reloading the arena several times, and there she is, still standing all proud still human.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        Okay I was recently trying to do this quest in NG+, wanting to side Jerren but I was not able to proceed with Sellen to give me the item Sellia Hideaway, no further dialogue or anything. The weird thing was, I wasn't able to get Comet Azur from Sorcerer Azur either, I thought it was due to me already owning the spell as it was a NG+. In order to get the Comet Azur from the Sorcerer Azur in Mt. Gelmir, YOU MUST GIVE SELLEN A SCROLL. Otherwise, he just doesn't do anything. I suppose it was deemed natural by the Fextralife author, that at that point of the game the player must have already given her a scroll, but in NG+ a lot of people don't do it since they already have the items. This was all after Radahn, and after a certain point of Ranni's questline and everything, the quest did not proceed simply because I did not give her a scroll. I hope it helps to someone.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          There is one line of dialogue that points towards this quest, but it's very vague and most players won't hear it.

                                                                                          You have to be progressed in Ranni's quest enough to have Blaidd at the festival. After defeating Radahn and talking to Iji "About Jerren", he states:

                                                                                          "Now the time has come to remind him of an old promise made. With the stars of fate set into motion, a certain sorceress is dispossessed of her immortality... Finally, we can be rid of a longstanding Carian weed."

                                                                                          It's just enough to connect the dots between Jerren and Sellen, but incredibly out of the way. Overall this quest is pretty terribly designed, and that's saying something for a Soulsborne game.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            I can just imagine her struggling to push Rennala behind a book shelf in anticipation for your arrival so she can stand in the middle of the room lookin cool

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              The fact that you have to talk to Jerren at Redmane castle after you are given Sellen's primal glintstone to progress the quest just pisses me off so much. That step shouldve been optional/skippable, Jerren shouldve just appeared at Witchbane Ruins as you reload the area after you receive the stone, regardless of whether you talked to him at Redmane Castle or not, as there arent any apparent reason to why one would go back there after Radahn, and there also arent any connection between Jerren and the questline leading up to that point. They couldve executed this so much better to make the quest smoother for players so they dont have to constantly look up a guide/walkthrough.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                I gave Sellen the royal house scroll, and she wont let me purchase the spells, which is fantastic as I was relying on those for a build. Thanks I guess.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  Just to let people know that they won't fail Sellen's quest if you bring her Primal Glintstone in the Roundtable Hold: the message you will get, if you did that, serves you to advise that you skipped Jerren's secondary dialogue after you removed Sellen's Glintstone in Weeping *****ula. The quest involves that Sellen will get a new body and the old be killed, so that's normal if you casually skipped Jerren's dialogue before Raya Lucaria's fight.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    How did anyone find out that Sellen can be summoned to fight Red Wolf? You have to defeat Radahn in order to get her to move anywhere, and at that point most people have long since blown past Red Wolf and fought Rennala too

                                                                                                    • I really like Sellen. She became more and more likable as I progressed her quest. Upon completing it though, Ugghhh, I can't bring myself to complete it again.... as mentioned below, I'm gonna have to head to the debate parlor now, see if I can find the painting of her without that helmet.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        She say's: "With the bodies of Masters Azur and Lusat returned, the academy can hone the primeval current."
                                                                                                        So my question is: Did the bodies actually got relocate to the Academy?
                                                                                                        They are no longer in their original place after ending her quest, so i wonder where they went.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          I got some extra dialogue after buying 5 sorceries from her, though I’m not sure if that’s the exact trigger. She praised me for how far I’ve gone learning magic, saying something about the “little legs you’ve grown”. I’d add it to the wiki myself if I could remember the exact words…

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            Maybe something to add to the trivia. In the Debate Parlor area where the Red Wolf of Radagon boss fight takes place. There are paintings on the wall of various sorcerers ( including Renalla ) but one of those paintings bears a striking similarity to Sellen without the helmet and she seemingly has black hair.

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