Sorceress Sellen

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Location Limgrave, Waypoint Ruins 
Weeping Peninsula
Witchbane Ruins
Role Merchant and Quest NPC
Voiced By  Kezia Burrows

Sorceress Sellen is a Merchant and NPC in Elden Ring. She can be found inside the Waypoint Ruins, far east from where you first arrive in Limgrave. She can teach you Sorceries. She can also be made available as an NPC Summon for specific battles.

 

Tarnished, are we? A wonder you should turn up here.
I am Sellen, a sorcerer, quite plainly. Why are you here?

 

Sorceress Sellen Location in Elden Ring

  • She is found standing near a treasure chest within the Waypoint Ruins in the central-east part of Limgrave. Players can reach her after defeating the  Mad Pumpkin Head. After defeating the boss, the Site of Grace "Waypoint Ruins Cellar" appears in their boss room, allowing easy access to Sellen's services. Map Link for Waypoint Ruins.
  • Sorceress Sellen can also be found kept prisoner at Witchbane Ruins, however, other than speaking to her, nothing can be done with her here until progressing far enough into her quest line. Be warned, attacking Sellen here can cause issues with her availability as a merchant elsewhere and stall progression in her quest line.
    This can be resolved by seeking absolution at the Church of Vows.
    Map Link for Witchbane Ruins.
  • She can be summoned to aid in the Red Wolf of Radagon boss fight, after progressing her quest line to the point that she leaves for the Raya Lucaria Academy.
  • Once the player has progressed her quest line far enough, two new summon signs will appear at the entrance to the Raya Lucaria Grand Library, offering the player a choice between assisting her (gold sign) or challenging her (red sign).

 

Elden Ring Sorceress Sellen Shop

Item Name Item Type runes currency elden ring wiki guide 18Purchase Value Availability
Glintstone Pebble Sorceries 1,000 Always
Glintstone Stars Sorceries 3,000 Always
Glintstone Arc Sorceries 1,500 Always
Crystal Barrage Sorceries 1,500 Always
Scholar's Armament Sorceries 3,000 Always
Scholar's Shield Sorceries 2,500 Always
Glintblade Phalanx Sorceries 2,500 Requires Royal House Scroll
Carian Slicer Sorceries 1,500 Requires Royal House Scroll
Great Glintstone Shard Sorceries 2,000 Requires Academy Scroll
Swift Glintstone Shard Sorceries 600 Requires Academy Scroll
Glintstone Cometshard Sorceries 12,000 Requires Conspectus Scroll
Star Shower Sorceries 10,000 Requires Conspectus Scroll
Shard Spiral Sorceries 8,000 After siding with her at the end of her questline

 You can choose among the following options while talking to Sorceress Sellen:

  • Study sorcery: Learn a sorcery from Sellen in exchange for Runes.
  • Give a scroll: Give Sellen a sorcery scroll key item to add the sorceries contained within it to Sellen's merchant inventory.
  • Give letter of introduction: After receiving the Letter of Introduction from Preceptor Seluvis, you can then speak with Sellen about it. She will inform you that General Radahn must be defeated in order to restore the movement of the stars, which will reveal a way to access the lost city of Nokron.

 

Sorceress Sellen Questline: How to complete Sorceress Sellen's Quest

  • Sellen can first be encountered at the Waypoint Ruins, after defeating the Mad Pumpkin Head guarding her room. She will introduce herself as the Graven Witch. Should you accept her offer to study sorceries under her, you will be able to pursue her quest line. Learning enough sorceries from her will unlock more dialogue with her.
  • North of Hermit Village on Mt. Gelmir, you can find the sorcerer Azur, who will give you the sorcery Comet Azur upon interacting with him. Afterwards, go back and speak with Sellen to continue to the next part of her quest line.
  • Note: Holding off on completing the following step will not prevent Sellen's quest line from continuing until much later. Sellen will ask you to find another sorcerer, Master Lusat, who is locked away behind a special magic seal deep inside Sellia Hideaway in Caelid. She will give you an item that will allow you to break the seal that holds him. Upon interacting with Master Lusat, he will gift you with the sorcery Stars of Ruin. Return to Sellen and she will reward you with a Starlight Shard. You can locate the pit leading to the magic seal Master Lusat is trapped behind by finding a crystal snail on a ledge above a crystal cluster and a crystal you can walk down, pictured below.

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  • Return to Sellen after defeating Starscourge Radahn. She will request that you meet her in person at the Witchbane Ruins where she will give you Sellen's Primal Glintstone.
  • If you haven't done so yet, travel back to Redmane Castle where Witch-Hunter Jerren can be found sitting in the throne room. Speak with him and exhaust his dialogue. Afterwards, reset the area by resting at any Site of Grace. This should cause Castle Redmane to return to the enemy filled state it was in before the Radahn Festival event began.
  • Return to Witchbane Ruins where you will find Jerren standing in the room with a now deceased Sellen. Once again, speak with Jerren and exhaust his dialogue.
  • Journey to the Three Sisters area and locate the ruins on the right side of the approach up to Ranni's Rise. You must locate an illusory floor that must be struck to reveal. The location of the illusory floor is shown below.

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  • Within this secret basement of dolls, there is an illusory wall just to the left of the glowing message that says "Seluvis's puppet. Do not touch." On the other side of the illusory wall is a room containing a doll duplicate of Sellen, where you can insert the Primal Glintstone by interacting with it. After speaking with the now revived Sellen, she will resume selling sorceries at this location until Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon is defeated.

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  • After completing the previous steps and defeating Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon, fast travel to the Raya Lucaria Grand Library Site of Grace. Right outside the entrance should be two summon signs.
    • The gold summon sign offers the option to assist Sellen, where you will need to aid her in fighting Witch Hunter Jerren:
      • Defeating Witch-Hunter Jerren will reward you with the Eccentric Set.
      • After the fight, you can find Sellen standing inside the Grand Library where Renalla once was, with Renalla sadly sitting off to the side of the room. Speak with Sellen and exhaust her dialogue to receive the Glintstone Kris and have the sorcery Shard Spiral added to Sellen's merchant inventory.
      • Sellen will remain where she stands in the Grand Library until you have completed the part of her quest line to find Master Lusat. Once that part of her quest line has been completed, reset the area. You will find that Sellen will have moved to the side of the room and transformed into a School of Graven Mages (beside of which can be found her Witch's Glintstone Crown) and Rennala will have returned to her original position in the center of the room. Despite Sellen's "condition," you can still purchase sorceries from her at any time by speaking with her.
      • After Sellen's transformation, you can revisit the spots where you first encountered Master Azur and Master Lusat to find their armor sets (Azur's Glintstone Set and Lusat's set, respectively) laying on the ground where they once were. 
    • The red summon sign offers the option to challenge Sellen, where you will need to aid Witch Hunter Jerren in defeating Sellen:
      • Defeating Sellen will reward you with the Witch's Glintstone Crown and Sellen's Bell Bearing.
      • Jerren can be found afterwards, standing just outside the entrance to the Grand Library.
      • Speak to Jerren and he will reward you with an Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.
      • At this point, Jerren can still be killed in order to obtain the his armor set, the Eccentric Set.
      • If you choose this option and kill Sellen, you will not be able to get the Lusat Set and Azur Set until your next game cycle.

 

Dialogue in Elden Ring: Sorceress Sellen

Introduction

  • Tarnished, are we? A wonder you should turn up here.
    I am Sellen, a sorcerer, quite plainly. Why are you here?

When attacked

  • What's the meaning of this? How unfortunate. <disappears>
  • You sadden me, my apprentice.
  • (On player kill) For a time, I believed us kindred spirits. My apprentice...

After you say you want to learn sorcery

  • Ahh, a yen for glintstone sorceries? Well, your aptitude does appear...passable. But one must choose one's masters wisely.
    I was exiled from the Academy of Raya Lucaria, as a reviled, apostate witch. Do you still wish to learn from me?

I still want to learn

  • Well, you are a piece of work. Very well. You are now my protégé in glintstone sorcery. But I refuse to coddle. Or cast kind words. Never.
    Anticipate grievances, young apprentice.
    [Nod in Thought Gesture received]

Visit

  • Young apprentice, first things first. You are a tadpole when it comes to magic. Infantile. Without the legs to walk.
    So, to become a sorcerer, first, you must face your ignorance. Now, shall we start learning?

After buying some sorceries

  • Our powers draw upon the powers embedded in glintstone, but what is the nature of such power? Glintstone is the amber of the cosmos, golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life and houses its vitality, while Glintstone contains residual life. And thus, the vitality of the stars. It should not be forgotten that glintstone sorcery is the study of the stars and the life therin.

Giving her the Royal House Scroll

  • Oh, is that a scroll? Takes me back to my academy days. Very well. This is sorcery with which I'm not entirely unfamiliar. I'll be sure to incorporate it into one of your lessons. Never lose that inquisitive spirit, my apprentice.

While imprisoned at Witchbane Ruins

  • It will do no good, I swear it...and yet you persist, you frothing degenerates...A...argh!

Show Seluvis's Letter of Introduction to Sellen

  • Well, well... Seluvis is not a name I ever wanted to hear again... But, fine. If it will help you, my apprentice, I offer my knowledge. The stars alter the fate of the Carian royal family. And the fate of your mistress, Ranni. But long ago, General Radahn challenged the swirling constellations, and in a crushing victory, arrested their cycles. Now, he is the force that repulses the stars. If General Radahn were to die, the stars would resume their movement. And so, too, would Ranni's destiny.

Show Azur's sorcery

  • Ah, then you have seen Master Azur. Master Azur was a founding glintstone sorcerer, and my first teacher. A stern judge of men, but he must have seen something in you. You make us both proud. We can speak more later, my apprentice.

Tell me your story

  • If you recall, I was exiled from the Academy of Raya Lucaria. It was for attempting to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. The toothless pedantry peddled by the Carian royal family can rot for all I care. I want glintstone sorceries that open our minds, unbound by terrestrial taboos. No matter what we give in return. My apprentice. I presume nothing. Teacher and student are not bound to tread the same path. But hear me out, my apprentice. I need your help to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. Perhaps this is a journey we could take together?
  • (Let's journey together) Splendid. I thank you. This pleases me. It's been far too long since I found a fellow kindred spirit. You must have a fabulous teacher.

I have a favour to ask

  • I need your help, my apprentice. Master Lusat is another founding glintstone sorcerer. And like Master Azur, he was banished from the academy. Now he languishes, imprisoned somewhere. My apprentice, can you find Master Lusat? With this glintstone key, you should be able to cross the boundary that encloses him.
  • I need him to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. He's nigh a child of the stars, such is his body now...

Lead on Lusat

  • After his expulsion from the academy, I heard that Master Lusat returned to his home. A place called Sellia, in the eastern Caelid Wilds. Thinking about it, I obtained the glintstone key I gave you from a Sellian sorcerer. It wouldn't be too much of a leap to suppose he's still cooped up nearby.

After meeting Master Lusat

  • My apprentice. Give me a moment later. I have a favour to ask.
  • Who could've guessed. What a place to find Master Lusat...You have my gratitude. This is all your work. I am truly pleased to have you as an apprentice, and a kindred spirit. This is a mere token of my thanks. Please, take it.
  • This brings us a full step closer. The bodies of Masters Azur and Lusat can be admitted to the academy. If only I could undo these wretched shackles...

About the request

  • The form you see before you is merely a projection. My body lies elsewhere. But the academy's shackles prevent it being moved. My body is on the Weeping Peninsula, at the southern tip of the Lands Between, imprisoned in the ruins just down from the Church of Marika, past the plain of the Wandering Mausoleum. Can you make the journey to my body? I have something that I can only trust with you. 

At Witchbane Ruins (after hearing about her request)

  • My apprentice, thank you for coming. These shackles take a toll on us all. There is something I need you to look after. My primal glintstone. A star has fallen, and my fortunes waver. someone may come for my life. And so, I entrust it with you. My self.
  • Thank you...my apprentice... This...is my essence. Please, treat it with care.
  • Treat it with care, my apprentice... What you hold is my very being...

Using Sellen's Primal Glintstone in the secret room at the Three Sisters

  • My apprentice, just how long has it been? Thank you. You've helped me fill a new body, once again. And it's truly a gem. Young and full of vigor, a snug fit for my Primal Glintstone. Better still, I've shed those awful shackles. Finally, I can return to the academy. To expel the Carian royal family, and restore the primeval current. My dear apprentice, I owe this all to you.

Challenging Jerren

  • Jerren, bringer of my death.
    You have my gratitude. For freeing me from my shackles.
    But I am afraid your work is done.
    Join the school. To reflect on your mistake.

 After defeating Jerren

  • Ahh, my apprentice.
    You've saved my skin once again.

    Do you see this? The Queen of Caria is no more.
    With the bodies of Masters Azur and Lusat returned, the academy can hone the primeval current.
    So that we, fallen children of the stars, shall beam with brilliance once again.
    My apprentice. Will you stay with us, here at the academy?
    Oh, I know it's not possible.
    You have your own calling. To be the next Elden Lord.
    But do think of me.
    Of your teacher. On the eve of your crowning.
    You will always be my darling pupil.
    Rest assured that I...
    No, the entire academy, will swear allegiance to the new monarch.
    My apprentice. Become Elden Lord.
  • Hmm. Perhaps I'm jumping ahead,
    but here is a symbol of my allegiance, and the academy's.
    (gives Glintstone Kris)
    Do you recall what I once told you?
    That glintstone is the amber of the cosmos, and sorcery is the study of the stars, and the life therein.
    When you become Elden Lord, please illuminate me.
    Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring.
    Next time, I will be your student.
  • Oh, one last thing.
    If you fail to claim your throne,
    you can always pay me a visit.
    Oh, don't fret. Even my dullest pupils will always have a place here.

After reloading the area

  • U...urgh. M-my...apprentice...I-I'm...

Other

  • (Subsequent Visits)
    There you are, my apprentice. Shall we commence the lesson?
    .
  • (Talking again without reloading)
    You wish to continue the lesson? Very well, I have time aplenty.

 

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    • Anonymous

      Sellen be like "alright you can be my student but don't expect any kind words! You will have the HARSHEST criticism in your lifetime and I will be completely uncompromising" *proceeds to do nothing but compliment you and shower with praise* *except calling you dumb one time in library*

      • Anonymous

        Who found out you can summon her for the red wolf fight? By the time you find commet azure you've most likely cleared out the academy as you've had to go through the Altus Plateau, you'll also be seriously over levelled for the fight anyway by that point

        • Anonymous

          at the end, we get to choose between helping her or Jerren, but what if we kill Jerren in the Witchbane Ruins beforehand?

          • Anonymous

            "U...urgh. M-my...apprentice...I-I'm..." - the voiceover here clearly suggests she screwed something and her current look is directly linked to that, but she doesn't want to go into details after being so proud and confident with you.

            • Anonymous

              Why Lucarian mages like to wear ugly helmets? I mean this NPC Sellen is a unique one, unlike those Lucarian enemy mages. it's a waste of opportunity to make a face for such character, making her look just like a generic one.

              • Anonymous

                I only did the Sellen NPC quest and bought all her spells from a completionist borderline OCD mentality. I have the same 15 INT now I started with, incantations for the win bit**es! Between somber dragon stones and smithing dragon stones I've upgraded the weapons I like best so helping Jerren to get his dragon stone meant nothing and I couldn't bring myself to help him kill Sellen, apart from anything else he's nuttier than squirrel turds.

                But speaking to Sellen after she turned into the school of graven mages and being able to recognise her stone crown right in the middle of them I think killing her might have been the bigger kindness. I know its stupid but the way she said my apprentice when I spoke to her for the last time after she turned bothered me, it sounded like she was in pain or maybe struggling not to lose her identity inside the school of graven mages.

                Her voice actor did a stellar job from start to finish, first in making her a likeable character then giving some sense of what she was feeling as part of the school of graven mages. Does anyone who knows their lore know why she turned into that?.

                • Anonymous

                  The quest walk-through mentions that she can be found standing near a chest in waypoint ruins but there is no chest

                  • Anonymous

                    What I will say now might be a spoiler for so don't read further if you want to be spoiled. You've been warned...
                    Jerren seems to be friend of the Carian family while Sellen tries to expel them as she says with her own words. Alas, she will always fail and while Jerren can fail because of the involvment of you... he is still the only NPC of the two who gives a glimmter of hope to see him again. Infact he even has a special dialogue if you've become champion of Ranni and is happy to be your friend and even mention being a friend of Iji himself.
                    So I think the good ending is to actually help Jerren instead of Sellen because the ending that seems best according to people is Ranni's Ending and Sellen does not succeed in any shape or form. Help Jerren and maybe in a DLC we will see him again :)

                    • Anonymous

                      I waant an ending where she is just normal. Add sellen to the list of malenia and a marika only ending here we learn of her plan

                      • Anonymous

                        The part about completing sellen's quest preventing ofnir casting comet azure could be clearer. Is her quest complete if you help Jerren kill her? or is it only complete if you side with her against Jerren?

                        • Anonymous

                          I'm not invested in sellen's quest and I don't use sorcery spells but I'd still be more inclined to help her not Jerren if it wasn't for the ancient dragon stone.

                          • Anonymous

                            The only reason to side with Jerren is if you want the dragon smithing stone, all other items are obtainable siding with Sellen, except her bell bearing.

                            • Anonymous

                              I'm on my NG+ playthrough and reached farum azula already, can I still start her quest? I only need her for the stars of ruin spell..

                              • Anonymous

                                I went to the roundtable hold a few days after I picked up her glintstone heart and it randomly gave me the message: "The primal glintstone shudders. It seems Sellen's body has died." I guess there's a time limit on that step? Either way this is dumb.

                                • Anonymous

                                  Who would you choose to side with:

                                  1. Sellen: the lovely lady who taught you everything you know, who has never lied to you, who has always been completely honest about who she is, what she's done and what she's trying to do, and who trusts you with her very soul

                                  2. Jerren "allow me to paint you the full picture" Witchhunter: homeless guy in a clown costume who's obsessed with killing her because uhhhh witchcraft bad

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Jerren does not always appear in the throne room. I am highly progressed in the game (elden beast dead, nearly every other questline complete) and he was waiting at Witchbane. Never showed up to the Redmane Castle Throne Room.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Uhhhhh, I'm confused and this article isn't really helping. I've done basically nothing for her quest, all I've done with her is buy a couple spells and have her help me for someone else's quest. Now she's chained up in Witchbane cave, with no interest at all in talking to me? Did I do something wrong? How fo I go about fixing it?

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Her ending is so sad. I only completed it in my first playthrough and never again. I prefer having my best girls (Sellen, Fia and Rennala) alive and well.

                                        • Anonymous

                                          It's funny how Sellen still treats you the same if you already learnt Comet Azur before meeting her for the first time and already have 60 Intelligence - she will still greet you as if you were some noob in sorcery who wants to learn the absolute basics, when you have already mastered one of the most powerful abilities in sorcery

                                          • Anonymous

                                            Don't ya find it kinda odd that seluvis has a life sized uninhabited doll body that looks exactly like sellen in a secret room right next to a bed? Dude is down atrocious

                                            • Anonymous

                                              I was very intrigued and interested on the Sellen's outcome, so I wanted to doscuss a little further. Unfortunately, thanks guys for spoiling the Boc questline for me...

                                              But, on the first matter, I love how knowledge and ruin walks always side by side in DS and ER (did not played BB, but from what I heard, thats a point in that universe as well).

                                              • Anonymous

                                                if you can't interact with the doll body after getting her soul, try talking to the jester-looking guy at redmane castle. If he's not here, teleporting there should suffice. Go back to Ranni's rise and she should be interactable.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  We're used to miserable questlines but jesus, even if her dialog after her transformation was like beeps and hums you could at least say 'well she accomplished what she wanted, one with the primeval current or whatevs' instead of sounding garbled and in pain.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    There's also different defeat dialogue if you kill her right after transplanting her primal glintstone

                                                    "Ahh, how could this be...every fallen child...must rise..."

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      Why doesn't Sellen recognize you if you find her at Witchbane Ruins before progressing farther into her quest line?

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Quest guide is currently SO whacky. It never links to the item (Sellian Sealbreaker), and never tells you how to trigger it. Check Master Lusat's page for the details. TO DO THIS QUEST you need to go to Hermit Village in Mt. Gelmir and loot Azur's body.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          i missed both azur and lusat and now I don't know hot to save her from the prison, Jerren is not spawning; can i continue sellen questline or is it over?

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            Might want to mention that you can find her puppet body in the same room as her Graven Mass/Queen Rennala. Its on the floor, stripped naked (and topless I might add) right next to the site of Grace. If you just warped in to that grace, and are looking at Rennala, with her back to you? Look to your right on the floor, she's less than 6 steps away.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Apparently you can prevent her from turning into a giant ball of heads by skipping the Lusat part of her questline. Meeting Azur is neccessary to progress (at least it was for me), but if you already defeated Radahn and Jerren told you about his unfinished business, then you can just skip finding Lusat. I did that, completed her questline at the Raya Lucaria library, and she continues to stand in the center of the room in the shape of a human (Rennala will be hidden behind a shelf, but still there to offer rebirth). She continues to do so even after reloading the area multiple times, so I guess it will stay that way?

                                                              Though I don't know what happens if you visit Lusat later on and return to her. Upon completing her questline, she said something about how she still needs Lusat's body to revive the primeval currents.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Hear me out. To start, Sellen first greets you via astral projection, something no other character seems capable of doing. Team Ranni meets you in Ranni's Rise when you first join her service, but as transparent phantoms. Sellen's real body is imprisoned in Witchbane Ruins, and there's an item there: Ambush Shard, a spell from Sellia, Town of Sorcery. Sellia almost sounds like it could be the name of a town that was named in honor of Sellen, doesn't it? And it just so happens to be a town full of sorcerers, but not just any sorcerers -- ghosts. The Sellian sorcerers used their night sorceries to assassinate other sorcerers -- why? We know Sellen is all about the primeval current, and forming graven masses, which requires a lot of dead sorcerers. Graven masses can cast a recognizable spell: Night Maiden's Mist, a spell that Gowry, right outside Sellia, teaches you. Its description states that it's a spell originating from the Night Maiden of Nokron, which is right below Sellia. Nokron is where Ranni's fated Fingerslayer Blade is, and when Blaidd can't find Nokron, he tells you to talk to Seluvis about it. Seluvis then tells you to ask... Sellen. When we later transplant Sellen's primal glintstone into Seluvis's puppet, she seems rather nonchalant about the fact that she is in an exact copy of her previous body that some weirdo from college was keeping in his basement. There is one puppet spirit ash you can find that isn't directly and obviously related to Seluvis: the Night Maiden and Swordstress Puppets in Nokron. Jerren, upon killing Sellen's imprisoned body, immediately suspects she will come back in another body. There's more. After killing Radahn, Jerren's next task is to hunt down Sellen, a task he undertook while serving House Caria. Iji says: "Now the time has come to remind him of an old promise made. With the starts of fate set into motion, a certain sorceress is dispossessed of her immortality... Finally, we can be rid of a longstanding Carian weed..." Immortality. I believe Sellen is the Night Maiden of Nokron, the namesake of Sellia, who knows how many centuries old, and has routinely been going from body to body via primal glintstone transfer to continue her work on the primeval current, harvesting sorcerers to meet her ends. The favor for which she owes Seluvis following her expulsion from Raya Lucaria may have been transference into the body she's in when you first meet her. And perhaps the most ominous thing she says, if you side with her and kill Jerren: "Even my dullest pupils will have a place here." She means in a graven mass.

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  well now that I have those two sets i'll be sure to not continue the sidequest so i dont have to marry a meatball

                                                                  • The walkthough seems at odds with the natural flow of the game. You'd usually beat Rennalla before Radahn and get to Atlus Plateau to reach Azur after both.

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      Not listed in sold spells: Sellen seems to gain the spell 'Shard Spiral' when you talk to her after killing Jerren. Costs 8000.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        The Welsh word for star is "seren". Sellen's name may be a reference to this with l's and r's being the same sound in Japanese.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          btw, jerren and sellen's signs only appear at raya lucaria if you go check witchbane and talk to jerren after getting sellen a new body, he will question what happened but won't suspect you, this interaction isn't skippable

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            Not sure if anyone has said this yet - at the end of Sellen's questline we see that she has turned into a Graven Mass, and I'm fairly certain she did that to herself intentionally in her pursuit of the primeval current and form a greater connection to the stars themselves. From the Graven-School and Graven Mass Talisman item descriptions:

                                                                            "The primeval current is a forbidden tradition of glintstone sorcery. To those who cleave to its teachings, the act of collecting sorcerers to fashion them into the seeds of stars is but another path of scientific inquiry."

                                                                            Sellen sends you on a quest to collect the bodies of Azur and Lusat and after you've told her about their locations, their bodies disappear from there after she has turned into the Graven Mass. Someone here also pointed out that if you don't tell her about Azur and Lusat's locations, she remains at the Raya Lucaria library and doesn't turn into the Graven Mass at all, indicating that Rennala probably has nothing to do with Sellen's transformation.

                                                                            As for the transformation into a Graven Mass, I don't think we can even conclusively say that this wasn't her intended outcome. We know that Sellen was one of the most brilliant sorcerers at Raya Lucaria before her exile, and I don't think what happened was a mistake. There are a few possible hints in her dialogue indicating that this was the outcome she wanted all along:

                                                                            "I want glintstone sorceries that open our minds, unbound by terrestrial taboos. No matter what we give in return."

                                                                            "[On Lusat] He's nigh a child of the stars, such is his body now..."

                                                                            "With the bodies of Masters Azur and Lusat returned, the academy can hone the primeval current. So that we, fallen children of the stars, shall beam with brilliance once again."

                                                                            That last line is pretty telling of her intention to literally transform herself, and all sorcerers by extension, into stars to better commune with the primeval current. Dialogue from Jerren also supports this to a certain extent:

                                                                            "She was known as the Graven Witch. Obsessed by the primeval current, countless sorcerers fell to her hands."

                                                                            TLDR; Sellen intentionally transformed herself into the Graven Mass using the bodies of Azur and Lusat in attempting to restore the primeval current.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              when I finally think I understand some quest until the end, Sellen turns into a mincemeat of heads at the end and I just don't know why

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                She drops 1050 runes on death, she's one of the few NPCs that take damage from the Briar set, she also respawns so don't feel bad about doin it

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  She can be killed in her school of graven mages form by rolling at her with the briar set. She drops 1000 ruins and killing her doesn't affect anything. She just respawns when the area reloads.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    I wish I know what EXACTLY happened to her at the end. I've considered several possibilities, and ruled out some of them. It was probably neither Rennala nor Ranni's doing, the former never even fought back at us, who directly attacked her and her precious egg, and the latter was safely tucked away in my inventory at the moment. Rennala's egg probably lost its rebirth power when we plucked the Great Rune from it, hence no infinitely respawning babies, only us the player using its service. As far as I can tell, she probably messed up somehow and ended up like that, unable to move or resist when Rennala (probably) rolled her to the side to reclaim her spot by the light. Or maybe she knew exactly what she was doing, and so remained still rather than lashing out like other unnamed Graven Schools do.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      Fastest way to complete this quest note if some steps don't work then reload the areas involved until it does.
                                                                                      Kill radahn,
                                                                                      Exhaust jerrens dialogue,
                                                                                      Find azur,
                                                                                      Tell sellen,
                                                                                      Exhaust sellens dialogue,
                                                                                      Next step she will tell u about lusat but ignore that for now she should have more dialogue but you may need to buy all her spells even if you have them already reload then Exhaust dialogue,
                                                                                      Find her body in witchbane ruins,
                                                                                      Find new body at three sisters,
                                                                                      Next step seems to be optional depending on your progress return to witchbane ruins and talk to jerren ,
                                                                                      Go to grand library and fight 1 of the 2 Exhaust dialogue and its over if you want lusats set Find his body if u killed jerren that is and then return to sellen.

                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                        So I got to and defeated Renalla before I got to witchbane ruins. After I completed all parts of the quest, the gold and red summon signs do NOT show up…

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          As of patch 1.04 after taking sellens primal glintstone and putting it in her new body I did not speak to jerren at witchbane ruins and the summon signs in the grand library are there so it seems they made this step skipable I only ever spoke to jerren at redmane castle

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            So she’s the most dangerous rogue sorceress from Raya Lucaria, but can’t deal with the mad pumpkin head guarding the cell door.

                                                                                            • Nobody suggested or brought it up so far, so I will: I think her turning into Graven Sorcery Rock was actually a Backfire or Self Destruct Mechanism of Seluvis.
                                                                                              Seluvis specifically made these dolls with warning "do not touch". Seluvis also clearly harbored no love or respect for Sellen, and showed envy and hate towards her and her career.
                                                                                              It is possible Seluvis made a contingency backfire backup-plan, like a back door virus:
                                                                                              In case someone steals his precious doll, knowing all too well Sellen will likely be the one to take it... Its his last laugh of cruelty. The body is artificial and likely flawed by designed, programmed to deform and transform trapping its host forever.
                                                                                              Its also possible that the artificial doll body simply couldn't handle the amount of raw Glintstone and Primeval Sorcery power and capacity! And it just collapsed under the raw pressure, in a tragic disaster. Afterall, it was all too good to be true, the young body was "too perfect" at first glance, but probably too weak to handle that.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                Think my game's bugged, she's at both witchbane and waypoint ruins at the same time and Jerren's nowhere to be found...

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  Her summon condition for Clifford the Big Red Dog is ridiculous, Who the hell is going to Raya Lucaria AFTER Radahn, and at that point who would need the summon.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    I finished everything in the quest. But I did not find the sign I cannot help Sellen or invade her. Any help guys?

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      The guide for Jerren/Sellen has one step backwards. After getting her primal Flintstone, talk to Jerren at Redmayne & exhaust his dialogue. Then reload at Redmayne. Then take her primal Flintstone to Seluvis Puppet workshop and insert it. Only after the puppet has been animated will Jerren appear in her cell at Witchbane Ruins.

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        So she turns into the ball as a punishment for attempting to study primeval sorceries. I know these games often don’t have good endings, but this feels like a really cheap way of ending the quest in a sad way considering how much effort needs to be put into it.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          So either you get two armor sets or a +25 material.
                                                                                                          I'm not a noob mage so +25 material it is.
                                                                                                          THEY BOTH CAN DIE

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            Update required

                                                                                                            "She is found standing near a treasure chest within the Waypoint Ruins in the central-east part of Limgrave. Players can reach her after defeating the boss of the area Mad Pumpkin Head."

                                                                                                            This information is incorrect there is no treasure chest.

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              Damn i knew magic was busted in the first area of the game but what i just experienced was ridiculous. I one shot a wandering noble with a ****ing glintstone pebble where usually it takes three shots from my +1 Quality Uchigatana.

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                Seluvis doesnt need to be dead to inser the glintstone, just pass time (3 days was what I did) if the Sellen puppet is not interactive

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  Soo Sellen is imprisoned at Witchbane Ruins for me & Jerren is nowhere to be found. I never went back to speak to her about Master Lusat, I'm guessing I messed up the questline & will have to wait until NG+?

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    I have her listed in 3 locations simultaneously:
                                                                                                                    - by the flower thinige where she is a merchent
                                                                                                                    - as a prisoner in witchbane but there is no interrogator, she does say dialog
                                                                                                                    - as the puppet up on the ol' hill

                                                                                                                    I've beaten the red wolf but nothing else insofar as a set boss not out in a field,just run around up to but not into Volcano Manor or Lyndell

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      "You must locate an illusory floor tht must be struck to reveal. The location of the illusory floor is shown below." *That (typo)

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        After completing Sellen’s quest line, Ofnir stops using Comet Azur in his boss fight, is this because he is unable to or because he is unwilling to after what happened to Sellen?

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          Ok so I love this game and all but why on earth have I locked myself out of every single valuable quest item simply by progressing the game? From the Nepheli questline to this to the white mask to the bullgoat armor. Its RIDICLULOUS that playing the game in "improper order" when its already so vague about what that order is, will lock you out. Jerren is literally nowhere, Sellen has disappeared from her lair and never died or anything in front of me. I have her essence but I can't give it to her puppet. There are no summon signs outside of grand library. So clearly this wiki needs to be updated and inform people that this questline as well is one of those notorious for high maintenance. I still love you Fromsoft but come on.....I've been playing RPGs for well over 20 years I'm not trying to repeat the game 15 times to get necessary items. Give me a break. Literally all those items I previously mentioned I'm locked out of on a single playthrough.

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