Sorceress Sellen |
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| Location | Limgrave, Waypoint Ruins Weeping Peninsula, Witchbane Ruins |
| Role | Merchant and Quest NPC |
| Voiced By | Kezia Burrows |
Sorceress Sellen is a Merchant and NPC in Elden Ring. She can be found inside the Waypoint Ruins, far east from where you first arrive in Limgrave. She can teach you Sorceries. She can also be made available as an NPC Summon for specific battles.
Tarnished, are we? A wonder you should turn up here. I am Sellen, a sorcerer, quite plainly. Why are you here?
Sorceress Sellen Location in Elden Ring
- She is found standing near a treasure chest within the Waypoint Ruins in the central-east part of Limgrave. Players can reach her after defeating the Mad Pumpkin Head. After defeating the boss, the Site of Grace "Waypoint Ruins Cellar" appears in their boss room, allowing easy access to Sellen's services. Map Link for Waypoint Ruins.
- Sorceress Sellen can also be found kept prisoner at Witchbane Ruins, however, other than speaking to her, nothing can be done with her here until progressing far enough into her quest line. Be warned, attacking Sellen here can cause issues with her availability as a merchant elsewhere and stall progression in her quest line.
This can be resolved by seeking absolution at the Church of Vows.
Map Link for Witchbane Ruins. - She can be summoned to aid in the Red Wolf of Radagon boss fight, after progressing her quest line to the point that she leaves for the Raya Lucaria Academy.
- Once the player has progressed her quest line far enough, two new summon signs will appear at the entrance to the Raya Lucaria Grand Library, offering the player a choice between assisting her (gold sign) or challenging her (red sign).
Elden Ring Sorceress Sellen Shop
| Item Name | Item Type |  Purchase Value |
Availability |
| Glintstone Pebble | Sorceries | 1,000 | Always |
| Glintstone Stars | Sorceries | 3,000 | Always |
| Glintstone Arc | Sorceries | 1,500 | Always |
| Crystal Barrage | Sorceries | 1,500 | Always |
| Scholar's Armament | Sorceries | 3,000 | Always |
| Scholar's Shield | Sorceries | 2,500 | Always |
| Glintblade Phalanx | Sorceries | 2,500 | Requires Royal House Scroll |
| Carian Slicer | Sorceries | 1,500 | Requires Royal House Scroll |
| Great Glintstone Shard | Sorceries | 2,000 | Requires Academy Scroll |
| Swift Glintstone Shard | Sorceries | 600 | Requires Academy Scroll |
| Glintstone Cometshard | Sorceries | 12,000 | Requires Conspectus Scroll |
| Star Shower | Sorceries | 10,000 | Requires Conspectus Scroll |
| Shard Spiral | Sorceries | 8,000 | After siding with her at the end of her questline |
You can choose among the following options while talking to Sorceress Sellen:
- Study sorcery: Learn a sorcery from Sellen in exchange for Runes.
- Give a scroll: Give Sellen a sorcery scroll key item to add the sorceries contained within it to Sellen's merchant inventory.
- Give letter of introduction: After receiving the Letter of Introduction from Preceptor Seluvis, you can then speak with Sellen about it. She will inform you that General Radahn must be defeated in order to restore the movement of the stars, which will reveal a way to access the lost city of Nokron.
Sorceress Sellen Questline: How to complete Sorceress Sellen's Quest
- You first encounter Sellen at the Waypoint Ruins after defeating the Mad Pumpkin Head guarding her room. She introduces herself as the Graven Witch. If you accept her offer to study sorceries, you can begin her questline. Learning enough sorceries from her will unlock additional dialogue.
- (Optional) You can progress Ranni's questline until you are asked to find Blaidd in Siofra River. He will direct you to question Seluvis, who sends you to Sellen for information.
- To obtain the Comet Azur sorcery, find Primeval Sorcerer Azur north of Hermit Village on Mt. Gelmir. You will need to circle around the volcano to reach him. [Map Link]
- Go back and speak with Sellen. She will give you a special glintstone key and task you with finding the sorcerer Master Lusat.
- (Note: the following step can be completed now or skipped and left until the very end of the questline). Travel to Caelid and find the secret cave Sellia Hideaway, hidden behind an invisible wall. [Map Link]. Deep inside the Hideaway, at the bottom of a chasm filled with crystal ledges, you will encounter a glintstone barrier blocking access to a very small cave. Interact with the barrier to open it using Sellen's key. Inside you will find Master Lusat. Interact with him to learn the spell Stars of Ruin. Return to Sellen and she will reward you with a Starlight Shard.
- After defeating Starscourge Radahn, return to Sellen. She will ask you to meet her at the Witchbane Ruins, where she will give you Sellen's Primal Glintstone.
- If you haven't done so yet, travel back to Redmane Castle and speak with Witch-Hunter Jerren in the throne room. Exhaust his dialogue, then reset the area by resting at any Site of Grace. This will restore the castle to its enemy-filled state, as it was before the Radahn Festival.
- Next, return to Witchbane Ruins to find Jerren standing over Sellen's now-deceased body. Speak with him again and exhaust his dialogue.
- Finally, go to the Three Sisters area and locate the ruins on the right side of the approach to Ranni's Rise. Strike the illusory floor there to reveal the hidden path.
- Journey to the Three Sisters area and locate the ruins on the right side of the approach up to Ranni's Rise. You must locate an illusory floor that must be struck to reveal. The location of the illusory floor is shown below.
- In the secret basement of dolls, look for an illusory wall to the left of the glowing message that says "Seluvis's puppet. Do not touch." Behind the wall is a room with a doll duplicate of Sellen. Interact with it to insert the Primal Glinstone. After reviving Sellen, she will resume selling her sorceries here until Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon, is defeated.
- After completing the previous steps and defeating Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon, fast travel to the Raya Lucaria Grand Library Site of Grace. Right outside the entrance should be two summon signs.
- The gold summon sign offers the option to assist Sellen, where you will need to aid her in fighting Witch Hunter Jerren:
- Defeating Witch-Hunter Jerren will reward you with the Eccentric Set. You can then revisit the spots where you first encountered Master Azur and Master Lusat to find their armor sets (Azur's Glintstone Set and Lusat's set, respectively) laying on the ground where they once were.
- It is important to note that Lusat's Set can only be acquired after Sellen transforms.
- After the fight, you can find Sellen standing inside the Grand Library where Renalla once was, with Renalla sadly sitting off to the side of the room. Speak with Sellen and exhaust her dialogue to receive the Glintstone Kris and have the sorcery Shard Spiral added to Sellen's merchant inventory.
- Sellen will remain where she stands in the Grand Library until you have completed the part of her quest line to find Master Lusat. Once that part of her quest line has been completed, reset the area. You will find that Sellen will have moved to the side of the room and transformed into a School of Graven Mages (beside of which can be found her Witch's Glintstone Crown) and Rennala will have returned to her original position in the center of the room. Despite Sellen's "condition," you can still purchase sorceries from her at any time by speaking with her.
- Defeating Witch-Hunter Jerren will reward you with the Eccentric Set. You can then revisit the spots where you first encountered Master Azur and Master Lusat to find their armor sets (Azur's Glintstone Set and Lusat's set, respectively) laying on the ground where they once were.
- The gold summon sign offers the option to assist Sellen, where you will need to aid her in fighting Witch Hunter Jerren:
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- The red summon sign offers the option to challenge Sellen, where you will need to aid Witch Hunter Jerren in defeating Sellen:
- Defeating Sellen will reward you with the Witch's Glintstone Crown and Sellen's Bell Bearing.
- Jerren can be found afterwards, standing just outside the entrance to the Grand Library. Speak to him and he will reward you with an Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.
- At this point, Jerren can still be killed in order to obtain the his armor set, the Eccentric Set.
- If you choose this option and kill Sellen, you will not be able to get the Lusat Set and Azur Set until your next game cycle.
- The red summon sign offers the option to challenge Sellen, where you will need to aid Witch Hunter Jerren in defeating Sellen:
Dialogue in Elden Ring: Sorceress Sellen
Introduction
- Tarnished, are we? A wonder you should turn up here.
I am Sellen, a sorcerer, quite plainly. Why are you here?
When attacked
- What's the meaning of this? How unfortunate. <disappears>
- You sadden me, my apprentice.
- (On player kill) For a time, I believed us kindred spirits. My apprentice...
I want to learn sorcery (Intelligence >10)
- Ahh, a yen for glintstone sorceries? Well, your aptitude does appear...passable. But one must choose one's masters wisely.
I was exiled from the Academy of Raya Lucaria, as a reviled, apostate witch. Do you still wish to learn from me?
I want to learn sorcery (Intelligence <10)
- Ahh, a yen for glintstone sorceries? I dare say your proclivities are far from ideal…
Oh well, perhaps nurture will defy nature, with a bit of luck. But one must choose one's masters wisely.
I was exiled from the Academy of Raya Lucaria, as a reviled, apostate witch. Do you still wish to learn from me?
I still want to learn
- Well, you are a piece of work. Very well. You are now my protégé in glintstone sorcery. But I refuse to coddle. Or cast kind words. Never.
Anticipate grievances, young apprentice.
[Nod in Thought Gesture received]
Visit
- Young apprentice, first things first. You are a tadpole when it comes to magic. Infantile. Without the legs to walk.
So, to become a sorcerer, first, you must face your ignorance. Now, shall we start learning?
Our powers draw upon the powers embedded in glintstone,
but what is the nature of such power?
Glintstone is the amber of the cosmos,
golden amber contains the remnants of ancient life and houses its vitality,
while Glintstone contains residual life.
And thus, the vitality of the stars.
It should not be forgotten that glintstone sorcery is the study of the stars and the life therein.
Giving her the Royal House Scroll
- Oh, is that a scroll? Takes me back to my academy days. Very well. This is sorcery with which I'm not entirely unfamiliar. I'll be sure to incorporate it into one of your lessons. Never lose that inquisitive spirit, my apprentice.
While imprisoned at Witchbane Ruins
- It will do no good, I swear it...and yet you persist, you frothing degenerates...A...argh!
Well, well...
Seluvis is not a name I ever wanted to hear again...
But, fine.
If it will help you, my apprentice,
I offer my knowledge.
The stars alter the fate of the Carian royal family.
And the fate of your mistress, Ranni.
But long ago, General Radahn challenged the swirling constellations,
and in a crushing victory,
arrested their cycles.
Now, he is the force that repulses the stars.
If General Radahn were to die,
the stars would resume their movement.
And so, too, would Ranni's destiny.
Show Azur's sorcery
- Ah, then you have seen Master Azur. Master Azur was a founding glintstone sorcerer, and my first teacher. A stern judge of men, but he must have seen something in you. You make us both proud. We can speak more later, my apprentice.
§Tell me your story
- If you recall, I was exiled from the Academy of Raya Lucaria. It was for attempting to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. The toothless pedantry peddled by the Carian royal family can rot for all I care. I want glintstone sorceries that open our minds, unbound by terrestrial taboos. No matter what we give in return. My apprentice. I presume nothing. Teacher and student are not bound to tread the same path. But hear me out, my apprentice. I need your help to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. Perhaps this is a journey we could take together?
- (Let's journey together) Splendid. I thank you. This pleases me. It's been far too long since I found a fellow kindred spirit. You must have a fabulous teacher.
- I need your help, my apprentice. Master Lusat is another founding glintstone sorcerer. And like Master Azur, he was banished from the academy. Now he languishes, imprisoned somewhere. My apprentice, can you find Master Lusat? With this glintstone key, you should be able to cross the boundary that encloses him.
- I need him to restore the primeval current of glintstone sorcery. He's nigh a child of the stars, such is his body now...
- After his expulsion from the academy, I heard that Master Lusat returned to his home. A place called Sellia, in the eastern Caelid Wilds. Thinking about it, I obtained the glintstone key I gave you from a Sellian sorcerer. It wouldn't be too much of a leap to suppose he's still cooped up nearby.
After meeting Master Lusat
- My apprentice. Give me a moment later. I have a favour to ask.
- Who could've guessed. What a place to find Master Lusat...You have my gratitude. This is all your work. I am truly pleased to have you as an apprentice, and a kindred spirit. This is a mere token of my thanks. Please, take it.
- This brings us a full step closer. The bodies of Masters Azur and Lusat can be admitted to the academy. If only I could undo these wretched shackles...
About the request
- The form you see before you is merely a projection. My body lies elsewhere. But the academy's shackles prevent it being moved. My body is on the Weeping Peninsula, at the southern tip of the Lands Between, imprisoned in the ruins just down from the Church of Marika, past the plain of the Wandering Mausoleum. Can you make the journey to my body? I have something that I can only trust with you.
At Witchbane Ruins (after hearing about her request)
- My apprentice, thank you for coming. These shackles take a toll on us all. There is something I need you to look after. My primal glintstone. A star has fallen, and my fortunes waver. someone may come for my life. And so, I entrust it with you. My self.
- Thank you...my apprentice... This...is my essence. Please, treat it with care.
- Treat it with care, my apprentice... What you hold is my very being...
Using Sellen's Primal Glintstone in the secret room at the Three Sisters
- My apprentice, just how long has it been? Thank you. You've helped me fill a new body, once again. And it's truly a gem. Young and full of vigor, a snug fit for my Primal Glintstone. Better still, I've shed those awful shackles. Finally, I can return to the academy. To expel the Carian royal family, and restore the primeval current. My dear apprentice, I owe this all to you.
Challenging Jerren
- Jerren, bringer of my death.
You have my gratitude. For freeing me from my shackles.
But I am afraid your work is done.
Join the school. To reflect on your mistake.
- Ahh, my apprentice.
You've saved my skin once again.
Do you see this? The Queen of Caria is no more.
With the bodies of Masters Azur and Lusat returned, the academy can hone the primeval current.
So that we, fallen children of the stars, shall beam with brilliance once again.
My apprentice. Will you stay with us, here at the academy?
Oh, I know it's not possible.
You have your own calling. To be the next Elden Lord.
But do think of me.
Of your teacher. On the eve of your crowning.
You will always be my darling pupil.
Rest assured that I...
No, the entire academy, will swear allegiance to the new monarch.
My apprentice. Become Elden Lord. - Hmm. Perhaps I'm jumping ahead,
but here is a symbol of my allegiance, and the academy's.
(gives Glintstone Kris)
Do you recall what I once told you?
That glintstone is the amber of the cosmos, and sorcery is the study of the stars, and the life therein.
When you become Elden Lord, please illuminate me.
Lay bare the secrets of life which course the Elden Ring.
Next time, I will be your student. - Oh, one last thing.
If you fail to claim your throne,
you can always pay me a visit.
Oh, don't fret. Even my dullest pupils will always have a place here.
Talking after reloading the area
- U...urgh. M-my...apprentice...I-I'm...
Other
- (Subsequent Visits)
There you are, my apprentice. Shall we commence the lesson?. - (Talking again without reloading)
You wish to continue the lesson? Very well, I have time aplenty.
Elden Ring Notes & Trivia for Sorceress Sellen
- You can give Sellen the Royal House Scroll to add the sorceries Glintblade Phalanx and Carian Slicer to her merchant inventory.
- You can give Sellen the Academy Scroll to add the sorceries Great Glintstone Shard and Swift Glintstone Shard to her merchant inventory.
- You can give Sellen the Conspectus Scroll to add the sorceries Glintstone Cometshard and Star Shower to her merchant inventory.
- In combat, Sellen wields a Carian Glintstone Staff and can cast Crystal Release, Shattering Crystal, Founding Rain of Stars, and Glintstone Cometshard.
- Completing Sorceress Sellen's questline will affect the boss fight with Sir Gideon Ofnir, the All-Knowing, preventing him from casting Comet Azur.
- Despite being located in a no combat zone, the orb form Sellen transforms into at the end of her questline can be killed by the damaging roll of the Briar Set. With all 4 pieces equipped alongside the Ritual Sword Talisman at full health, each roll with deal 30 damage. She drops 1000 runes on death (base, NG) but can't be permanently killed and will respawn upon reloading the area.
- The dialogue/lore in game that suggests that Sellen was the one whom created the Graven Mages is backed up by the fact that her mentor was Master Azur, the founder of the Karolos Conspectus, whose masks are notably spared from being incorporated into any of the Spheres. The Karolos Sorcerers are also the most plentiful type encountered throughout the academy, and world in general save for places still held by Carians, where Lazuli sorcerers still reside.
Furthermore, paintings of the founding sorcerers found throughout the academy (except for the ones hanging in the debate parlour) are positioned such that Lusat's and the Lazuli founder's are either on their side or upside down, whereas Azur's are positioned properly. A notable few of these are on the secret path that's before the debate parlour, the one leading to the Graven School Talisman that rests upon an inert Graven Mage (part of the world geometry; not an enemy to fight). The implication here being that Sellen had a certain level of disdain for the other conspectuses, explaining her willingness to use their sorcerers in her experiments in creating the seeds of new stars, ultimately resulting in the making of Graven Mages. - Sellen's name in the Japanese release is "セレン"/"Seren", which could be translated as Sellen or Seren; given her voice actor has a Welsh accent and the ubiquitous use of the Welsh language in Elden Ring's world, it could be that her name is in some way linked to the Welsh word "Seren", meaning "star", which would thematically align with the Glintstone sorceries she practices that draw on the power of stars.
Sorceress Sellen Lore
Lore Items Related to Sorceress Sellen
Karolos Glintstone Crown
One of the glintstone crowns bestowed upon Raya Lucaria scholars whose pursuits were deemed worthy.
Increases intelligence to the detriment of stamina.
The Karolos Conspectus is the oldest of the academy's lineages of study, begat by the sorcerer Azur. Scholars who follow in his footsteps pursue the mysteries of comets.
Primal Glintstone Blade
An old glintstone blade that has been stained with blood.
Reduces FP consumption of sorceries and incantations at the cost of maximum HP.
The old sorcerers would slice open their hearts with these blades to imbue a primal glintstone with their soul, and thus did they die.
Witch's Glintstone Crown
One of the glintstone crowns bestowed upon Raya Lucaria scholars whose pursuits were deemed worthy.
Increases intelligence and arcane to the detriment of stamina.
This gentle-looking crown was granted to a scholar who excelled in her studies, which also merited the title of "witch."
Note: The Preceptor's Secret
Note sold by a nomadic merchant imparting knowledge in brief.
"Preceptor Seluvis is hiding a dirty secret in a cellar among the ruins not far from the sisters three.
The vile Graven Witch seems to be a frequent visitor to that place."
Lusat's Manchettes
Manchettes corroded by blue glintstones. Worn by Lusat, primeval current sorcerer.
Lusat had reached a near-inorganic state.
Dialogue Related to Sorceress Sellen
Thops
"Sellen was well known. The most promising sorceress in the history of the academy."
"But Sellen was expelled from the academy. Accused of unthinkable treatment of certain sorcerers, under the name of the Graven Witch."
War Counselor Iji
"With the stars of fate set into motion, a certain sorceress is dispossessed of her immortality... Finally, we can be rid of a longstanding Carian weed..."
Preceptor Seluvis
"There's a glintstone sorcerer by the name of Sellen in Limgrave. She owes me for the help I gave her when she was expelled from the academy. I asked her to look into the matter some time ago."
Sorceress Sellen Image Gallery
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Do we really have to go AROUND the volcano to get to the village? OR do we go to the Wyndham Ruins and go west to the Seethewater River site of grace and go from there?
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still convinced she would've been a great wife and mother if this game had freedom to choose consorts for the ending, alas
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I came to the comments expecting a lot of hate for her, not praise. Kinda surprising to me. After learning of what she did.. she’s really no better than Seluvis.
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Is she not a genuinley horrible person? Did she not forcefully turn multiple innocent mages into Graven masses?
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I know we can’t expect happy endings in Fromsoft games but this one’s worse than usual. The whole convoluted quest line seemingly comes to a successful end, and then she unceremoniously meets a terrible end off camera when you reload the area. It’s not just sad, it’s annoying too.
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Haha the ol ball and chain. It's funny because she is a giant ball and metaphorically chained to raya lucaria library.
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Just learned Sellen doesn't get orbed if you never follow the Lusat lead. After a while, she gives her request to take her primal glintstone out and set the end of her quest rolling. You can ignore Lusat entirely and only get Azur. After killing Jerren, she will stand where Renalla sat and will not get orbed no matter how many times you reload the area. You can ask about Lusat and she will say she needs him to fully hone the primeval current. Only downside is you're locked out of respecs until you go get Lusat and orb her because Renalla is straight up gone.
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when you think about it, the only thing that differentiates her from the dung eater is that she has rizz
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Me: How are you Sellen?
She: Why are you boy in... (here)
Me: I'll buy it for a high price (hope it not to be expensive)
She: Not enough cash stranger (poor commoner)
Me: hehehee hah! Thank you (for nothing)
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perfect timeline where you marry sellen instead of ranni/marika, make her the new vessel for the elden ring, complete her primeval current endeavors without risk of her balling, secure allegiance of raya lucari, create new conspectus in thops' name and start a big ol int build family with her <3
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What is the lore significance of sellen Turning in to a ball at the end of her quest? Is from software telling us that sorcerers have balls too, so it is not only the strength builds that are playing like a man?
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Attention, guys, I have the perfect solution to save this extremist sorceress that we all love (at least all the normal gamers who love a smart, light-eyed, slightly crazy brunette).
The best thing is that this is completely canonical and possible to be done with minimal effort and a little bit of interpretative freedom. I'm sure that, if you completed her quest and felt like crap after seeing her in her hideous form, making the decision I just made is the best choice for you, just follow the steps. Here is the true canonical ending of this quest for us and our teacher:
1- After seeing your waifu transformed into a magical, stony meatball, the game doesn't give you any option other than to suffer with her terrible fate, right? Wrong, there are enough options in Elden Ring that allow you to continue her quest, even if it's not said, it just takes a little poetic freedom. The solution is in the same room where you are now, looking at your beloved teacher.
2- As a passionate student, capable of doing anything for Sellen, your beloved, you will choose to give your body to her, she will then be able to inherit your strength, experience and body, with only one condition for her: she will obey you from now on as your student and you will be the teacher a little sooner than expected (after becoming Elden Lord), unlike how she said. In fact you will do this because without her you are no longer able to continue your search.
3- Since she can no longer communicate with you, you, drunk with love, take her grunts as a "yes", and use a Larval Tear to mold your body into the most beautiful version of her, with a bit of poetic license you take Sellen's Primal Glintstone from her mutated body and insert it into your newly reborn body.
4- You have just donated your own body as a vessel for your beloved teacher (now student), who will be guided by you, as the player, to become the great Elden Lord. Your extremeness to go so far for love is the kind of thing that proves that you truly are soulmates.
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Pratical notes: After finishing her quest, just search online for "Sorceress Sellen Sliders", be reborn in her form and name and never return to this room again. You can even use "Raya Lucarian Sorcerer Set" and "Witch's Glintstone Crown" (I don't recommend this because it will prevent you from seeing your beloved's beautiful face). I really think this is a pretty decent solution to poetically give a perfect ending to this relationship of devotion and sorceress extremism between the Tarnished and Sellen. What do you think? I did this and I'm happy.
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I'm in my first sorcery playthrough, and man what a shitty questline this is. Got to the end, she told me to become elden lord, and that felt epic. I rest at the grace, and she became a fkn ball. Wtf man this some bullsh!t. That was sad, how she could still barely talk, reminds me of the little girl from fullmetal alchemist...Questlines are the worst thing about this game imo.
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Poor Sellen, seeing Azur and Lusat pretty much incapacitated by the primeval current and she still thought it would somehow be different for her.
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I really like her face. How did the wiki get that shot of her I wonder? I wish she would remove the mask herself as you progressed her quest.
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God this questline is so convoluted like, do I need to find both other sorcerers? Do I have to beat radahn before renalla?
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page is wrong, it is too late to talk jerren at redmane after getting primal glintsone
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Hello, my teacher. I have entered the Land of Shadow. Wasn't easy there, but your teachings held true, and through them I persevered. Saw wonders beyond count, faced foes beyond compare. Even a few sorcerers. I wonder if you knew Count Ymir... he didn't end well. Met Rennala's sister even, though she didn't survive. Met Kind Miquella there too - though we came to blows, and I've slain him, even though he ascended to godhood by then. All thanks to your teachings. I think you'd love the sorceries I've learned there... Anyway, it was nice to catch up. ...Don't you worry, I will fix you, one day, I will find a way. Land of Shadows was just one lead, I'll find others. Bye, Sellen. I'll visit soon.
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you can stil get the witch;s glintstone crown even if you side with Sellen and defeat Jerren. Going back to Raya Lucaria, Sellen turns into one of the giant balls of sorcerer crowns and her crown is right next to her
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I was in the middle of this quest - had just gotten the primal glintstone, wasn't able to give it to the Sellen copy in Ranni's rise so I thought warping to the roundtable and talking to Gideon about Seluvis might help - and I got a message that said "The primal glintstone shudders. It seems Sellen's body has died." WTF?
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I like her because she’s smart and really pretty and nice to me :)
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Wow this character has been so kind to me and seems to actually has good plans for the future of the academy, it'd be a shame if she got orbed.
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Came here to try and figure out the "correct" way to end her quest... And its kinda fascinating that its a hard call. Not least because of different rewards...
So...
Why help Sellen:
- Treats us with respect, a rarity for random NPCs (especially smart ones);
- Is a waifu;
- Rewards you with 3 armor sets and a cool spell.
Why help Jerren:
- Sellen's fate is sealed either way, and depending on how you view life - perhaps the death by the sword is preferable to what's coming;
- Jerren is a pretty wholesome lad himself;
- We have multiple witness accounts that she is, in fact, a maniac. Very much a mad scientist archetype ready to do anything for research and apparently she went on quite a killing spree while at the academy. By all accounts - she's insane, dangerous and there is no guarantee she won't turn you into an Elden Graven Lord too;
- Reading the spell lore of Azur and Lusat reveals that perhaps trying to read into the stars is a dangerous dead end, as both Grandmages were mentally broken by what they saw. Maybe it is best to stay away;
- If you don't - you are officially a simp. Or a crazy scientist yourself. Not great either way.
All and all... Siding with Jerren seems to be a more "reasonable" thing to do, due to all the references to her being a mass murderer (and they appear to be true, as well).
You miss out on an OP sorcery (too OP, even) and 3 sets of questionable fashion, at a low price of your dignity.
If nothing else - i trust Iji's judgement.
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She has different dialogue depending on your Int when you first ask her to teach you. Instead of "Well, your aptitude does appear... passable" she says "I dare say your proclivities are far from ideal... Oh well, perhaps nurture will defy nature, with a bit of luck" if your Int is low enough. Idk what the exact threshold is, but it's for sure between 16 (Astrologer Int) and 10 (Warrior Int).
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FromSoftware locking an Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone behind murdering one of the nicest and most genuine characters in the game is a war crime
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There's literally no reason to help Jerren, objectively the worst decision.
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Does anyone know if she stays human if you just dont do all her dialogue when shes moved rennala?
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I swear she has different introduction dialogue if you have really low intelligence.
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She's a serial killer, but she's very nice to me even though I only have 10 int. I like her.
It feels really bad to kill Jerren, but seeing Sellen gets karma'd is a pretty good ending to her storyline.
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Love how she tells us to expect being treated like **** and then proceeds to be one of the nicest NPCs towards us. Shame she was such a terrible person for pretty much anyone else.
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My dumb ass attacked her to try and free her from her binds at Witchbane Ruins (ok listen the last Souls game I played was DS1 and I stopped playing after I realized the game was just "know x to cheese y") and uhhh I didn't get a Celestial Dew until way later and like Seluvis is dead and... how do I progress.
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My dumb ass attacked her to try and free her from her binds at Witchbane Ruins (ok listen the last Souls game I played was DS1 and I stopped playing after I realized the game was just "know x to cheese y") and uhhh I didn't get a Celestial Dew until way later and like Seluvis is dead and... how do I progress.
I personally don’t mind the Graven-School Sellen. Perhaps her proximity to Rennala will result in something brilliant come our reign… or a stone meatball will remain the greatest mage in the Academy. Either way, it’s wonderful. (Raya Lucaria administration can go stand in Comet Azur lmao)
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should I help sellen and miss out on the smithing stone or challenge her?
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Why does she transform? Was it a mistake, an accident seeking research? Did Renalla do it?
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NPCs Quests makes the game more playable, you have more content to play. But most of the quests steps are impossible to know unless you are lucky or you read the wiki. I don't like it, you don't know what to do or not to do, you don't know the next one to talk to, you don't know what you will gain after a quest step. There are few quests in From Software souls games if compare to Skyrim and they make them easy to fail for you to play again and again to see little different results. I always read all the quests steps here, I choose what I want to gain and then play the game. The natural way to play without external info is boring and frustrating for me, I prefer to see spoilers than losing something I'd love to get. Thanks you guys for working for free, helping me play the game more securely.
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That map image around Mt.Gelmir is way more confusing rather than helpful
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Once you kill jerren, do NOT find master Lusat if you like happy endings. She will turn into a graven school, and a lot of people (including me) find that as a fate worse than death. Heed this warning tarnished!! DO NOT FIND MASTER LUSAT!!!
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Is there a way to free her? I have yet to start her questline :(
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Strawhare, if you’re reading this. Just tell me why. What have you done to this community that was already down bad
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*finds master lusat and finishes Sellen's questline*
Me with Anakin's voice: What have I done?
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Does Sellen actually have dark hair and blue eyes under her mask?
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Idk why but I always feel happy when she calls me a tadpole :)
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"I seriously don't know how you fit your head into that helmet." Dr. Strange mastered sorcery and Tony Stark wore a helmet, how did Sorceress Sellen managed to do both?
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If the Sellian she got the key from was potentially Sage Gowry would that mean he is just obsessed with trying to create a God or something because he starts millicents bloom as well.
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After graduating, the tarnished developed a new sorcery inspired by all his lessons with her: Glinstone Feet. No Idea why it's called that.
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I find it so odd that you can summon Sellen for the Red Wolf fight, although by the time her quest has progressed today far, you've likely already beaten Rennala a while ago.
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And then she turns herself into a ball, funniest **** I've ever seen
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I make sure to visit meatball sellen every once in a while. thank you, teacher...
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Fun fact, she can actually be strung up in witchbane ruins and still in her normal spot at waypoint ruins at the same time
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Nobody is going to talk about the fact that when you put the primal glintstone on her new body, you find this body in the Seluvi's puppet room, behind an illusory wall that leads a to a "private" room with a bed?
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"Tarnished... would you still love me if I was a large orb?"
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Imagining Rennala noticing the ballification after several hours, then slowly but steadily scooching her chair back to the centre of the room, is very funny.
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Interesting she's against the Carians but has a Welsh accent, which seems to be code for Carian.
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Sellen is the real simp queen. I will continue to give up my ADSS for her for evermore.
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if intelligenec is low, she seems to have a slightly different first dialogue.
My game is translated, so I dont have the exact words, but starting as an astrologer or as a vagabond and going to her first thing gave slightly different comment (passable versus "dont seem suited for" followed by a remark that anyone should be allowed to try to learn)
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>no age of the primeval current ending where you fill sellen with star babies
why live
I kinda wish there was an ending for her quest that ended well. But that's just how Fromsoft games are, I guess.
Also, as much as I like her as a teacher, she is something of a mad scientist with grand ambitions and somewhere between few scruples and none. I still sided with her, because I like my sorcery teacher more than some weirdo I met at the euthanasia party for his old boss. (And because I don't really need the Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone.)
I like to think that after I become Elden Lord I go back to tell her about the secrets of the Elden Ring, as she said she wanted me to before she lost the ability to speak normally. (As a result of merging with her Sorcery pals into a horrifying amalgamation of glintstone crowns that can still somehow teach me sorcery).
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My quest bugged I gave Conceptus scroll to Selvius but locks sellens quest but on conceptus scroll's page it said there is no consequence in giving it to someone else. I did learn the spells and checked Inventory and got them all I just finished Ranni's story so should be no reason why other then she does not have all the spells. NG+ I guess rip
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killed radahn and defeated the queen before i ever even knew at this quest. next thing i know i'm minding my damb business exploring witch bane ruins for the first time and there she is. am i locked out of her quest? never got the thing that revives her
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Her blustering about “The Queen of Caria is no more.” and then just hiding her behind one of the bookcases is hilarious and cute.
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Okay i did this **** without looking at the wiki and googling, by pure accident, and now reading back, what the actual **** is this questline? i legit would have never done this quest if i didnt just want to respec to try spellcasting on my original character
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So to be able to summon Sellen against the Red Wolf, you have to defeat Radahn and go to Mt Gelmir before going to Raya Lucaria? Sometimes it feels like this game's "quests" are really just a series of related easter eggs
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Minor note, jerren won't always be at the witchbane ruins. These are the steps i went through
- Redmane castle, killing misbegotten and crucible knight
- Progress Ranni quest to the point where you're trying to figure out how to get to Nokron
- Go back to Redmane castle, talk to Jerren about Iji, then Iji about Jerren. Trigger radahn festival that way
- Kill Radahn.
- Later, start Sellen questline like normal. Find Azur, show Sellan, get key, find Lucat, get Sellan
- She tells us to go to witchbane ruins. go there.
- Jerren is not there. Jerren is not at radahn castle. Radahn castle has already reverted.
- Sellan is not dead, but still chained up, and will give you her glintstone.
- Rest of quest progresses as normal.
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Jerren is chad but Sellen is my wife, also 3 sets are better than 1 measly dragon stone, esp for lower-level builds. Ah, and "Nod in thought". Cant kill person who gave me best gesture in the game.
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there’s a great many sweaty in the thread below choosing sellen’s side based solely on being down horrendous, but it really makes better sense lore-wise to help jerren, esp. if you’ve done ranni’s quest. i’m not a ranni simp by any means and don’t even really like her, but blaidd & iji are better allies during the game and the entire carian getup is swag as hell, they’ve got way more going on than a bunch of outcast serial killer sorcerers who can’t stop staring into stars and burning their skulls through. i’d rather the carian family rule than the graven lot weirdos. i do understand int builds are concerned abt getting the magic-buff armor sets though
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It would be cool if you could turn her into a puppet and use her as an ash summons.....uh, I mean, I'm not saying I'd do it personally....just would be cool if was an option....for other people
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