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| Location | Weeping Peninsula Liurnia of the Lakes Caelid Consecrated Snowfield Various Towers across The Lands Between |
| Drops |  50 - 1285 Runes |
School of Graven Mages are strange objects animated through some form of sorcery. Their appearance is that of a spherical body of faces, resembling the stone crowns used by members of the Olivinus, and Lazuli Conspectus sorcerers of the Raya Lucaria Academy. They float around ominously, firing off magic bolts like a mortar, or releasing a deadly mist which damages when one gets too close.
The primeval current is a forbidden tradition of glintstone sorcery. To those who cleave to its teachings, the act of collecting sorcerers to fashion them into the seeds of stars is but another path of scientific inquiry.
School of Graven Mages Locations
- Witchbane Ruins
- Lenne's Rise
- North of Ainsel River Well, spawning near a sleeping Lesser Runebear.
- The sealed area of the Converted Fringe Tower
- Northern part of Aeonia Swamp, past some Abnormal Stone Clusters
- Raya Lucaria Grand Library after the completion of Sellen’s questline (Non-hostile)
- Near the Albinauric Rise.
School of Graven Mages Drops
- 50 - 1285 Runes.
School of Graven Mages Notes & Tips
- These creatures are most likely made up of Glintstone Sorcerers of the Olivinus Conspectus and Lazuli Sorcerers that studied at the Raya Lucaria Academy, and are a large clump of Olivinus Glintstone Crowns and Lazuli Glintstone Crowns. This may be the reason why the study of the Primeval Current was deemed as heresy and witchcraft.
The Olivinus Conspectus primarily utilizes Star Sorceries while the Lazuli Conspectus is tied to the stars and the Carian Royalty. - The dialogue/lore in game that suggests that Sellen was the one whom created these creatures is backed up by the fact that her mentor was Master Azur, the founder of the Karolos Conspectus, whose masks are notably spared from being incorporated into any of the Spheres. The Karolos Sorcerers are also the most plentiful type encountered throughout the academy, and world in general save for places still held by Carians, where Lazuli sorcerers still reside.
Furthermore, paintings of the founding sorcerers found throughout the academy (except for the ones hanging in the debate parlour) are positioned such that Lusat's and the Lazuli founder's are either on their side or upside down, whereas Azur's are positioned properly. A notable few of these are on the secret path that's before the debate parlour, the one leading to the Graven School Talisman that rests upon an inert Graven Mage (part of the world geometry; not an enemy to fight). The implication here being that Sellen had a certain level of disdain for the other conspectuses, explaining her willingness to use their sorcerers in her experiments in creating the seeds of new stars, ultimately resulting in the making of Graven Mages. - Depending on which School of Graven Mages, they can have one of two attacks, one of which involves puffing out purple clouds that do continuous Magic damage, and the other involves them shooting a barrage of magical blasts into the air, which rain down on the surrounding area a few moments later. The cloud attack is similar to the Night Maiden’s Mist sorcery.
School of Graven Mages Gallery
Anonymous"You guys realize that Sellen is a serial killer, right?" / A HUMMINA HUMMINA HUMMINA AWOOOGA MILDLY ATTRACTIVE WOMAN ABLBLBLBLBL
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These enemies are largely superfluous in the course of your journey. They are pretty much always placed out of your path to any nearby point of significance (except for one or two, which can be skipped past), drop no items, and give only a pittance of runes on kill.
If you get killed by one of these, you have no one to blame but yourself.
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Even though Sellen's sorry state makes me feel terrible, I can't help to feel like that was what she wanted. I guess she succeeded?
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I think an interesting note is that both types of Graven makes seem to be using variants of Founding Rain. The mist variants looks exactly like the celestial clouds that form and the projectile variant is quite obviously similar to the rain part of the spell.
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I found one of these stuck by what looks like gravity magic just outside of Church of the Cuckoo at the end of a long hallway (guarded by a very tough perfumer). I've tried Gravity, Stonedigger magic and even Erudition. Can't free the thing. Anyone else see this?
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I wonder what the process of creating these strange things is like... I suspect it would be painful or something horrifying... Hell, maybe both!
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primeval current's ideal is to turn the body inorganic, but not only that its to become a star, that is why the graven talisman call these spheres seeds of stars because its meant to hatch a star, people just hear her voice and assume it failed or that is some form of punishment without looking further into the lore, if they paid attention they would realize that sellen wont turn until you tell her where lusat is, in other words she does it to herself, its not a punishment or a failure its the goal of their school to become stars no matter what
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It seems the dragon incantation where you use the claw is pretty good against these. I think it takes like half of their health, for sure 900 damage. That claw incantation is pretty damn good, especially if you do a follow up claw attack(while holding down L2 for extra damage).
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there is one more near the Azur's Glintstone Staff. or mb i missed something...?
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SPOILER : i kind of sad when sellen still recognize us as her apprentice even in this form, she really proud of us
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I wonder if a Graven school of mages is essentially a geode, given the connection primeval and glintstone magic has to crystals.
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And here I was, thinking a happy ending finally made it to a soulsborne game...
god dammit
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From now on i will believe sellen is actually just chilling relaxing inside the ball. I will forge my own happy ending damnit
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Hey YOU, can you let me out of here? I don't belong in prison, but here I am, 10 years and counting.
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Everybody gangsta till big ass ball with rock candy eyes shows up and starts shooting mortar like lasers
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Sacred blade ashes helps with killing it alot and it drops around 900 runes when killed. Just wait till it stops spewing the blue and run in to hit it as it goes back down to the ground. Avoid the spray but it seems to have a pattern to the spray directions
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There is ONE ANOTHER right above Ainsel River Well where bear is also comes the Sphere from the small Pond Seems missing in here
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Reminds me of natural caused phenomena "rat king", when many rats are tied together with their tails, it forms a grotesque rodent mass.
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I'm not convinced that these things were once sorcerers. Per the description, they are meant for guarding important magic. Each of the ones found in the game is acting in this capacity. With Sellen, my belief is that she attempted rebirth while in her puppet body, which triggered a trap laid by Seluvis. There is a note in his lab warning against touching his stuff, after all.
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Apparently these "Graven Masses" are the result of Sorcerers who tried to combine the power of their Primal Glintstone with others. What greed does to a mf.
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So, as far as I can tell, these are actually amalgamations of mages that practiced primeval sorcery. Every reference we have seen in the game so far to primal, primeval, etc has all related to the crucible, which is a time before everything when all life was combined into one thing. If you follow Sellen's Questline, (SPOILERS) at the very end, the two banished archmages of the Raya Lucaria Academy will disappear, and Sellen will now be turned into one of these schools of mages. Graven just means to be cast into stone, AKA engraved. So if they are a school of mages (like a school of fish, but since mages are students, they are a school of mages, engraved into stone. As in the mages themselves have been turned into a single stone orb. It is my understanding by reading the item descriptions that this is the destiny of any sorcerer studying primeval current sorcery. I think the point of that sorcery is to recombine everything back into one, like with the crucible. I think that sellen combined herself with the two archmages and became the school of graven mages you find in the academy who is called Sellen. Also, you will find these creatures all over the lands between, and in the descriptions in the talismans it calls them the great mistake of the academy. As in the mages started to practice this, and it scared the academy so much, that they banished anybody who practiced it, all the way to the top.
Looks like the Abhorrent Flesh and Frozen Flesh (balls with spikes, made of Lost heads) in Code Vein. I wonder which was the original inspiration.
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These seem to be called "Graven Mage Schools" according to the Graven Mage School talisman.
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I thought it was related to that one-eyed caterpillars and that fileds where you enter to fight some bosses!
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Does law of regression work on these guys to revert their form
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Does anyone has name/page of the black iron spheres that are similar to this? Like the two you farm near Lenne's Rise?
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I think this is a way for evil sorcerers to increase their magical power (or intelligence) by drawing power from other sorcerers they imprisoned in the sphere of faces. Essentially they trap other sorcerers in the sphere, and then they can add their power to theirs when casting sorceries. You can do something similar if you use the Graven mass talisman / Graven school talisman, which is essentially a smaller version of this sphere of faces. Also when you help Sellen to defeat the Witch Hunter Jarren, Sellen says that Jarren will be added to the "school", which likely means that she intends to imprison him in this sphere and use his power, as the Graven school talisman mentions the sphere is called "Graven school". In the end she ends up imprisoned.
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Like most "construct" type enemies in the game, they are weak to Strike damage.
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So after Sellens quest we can pretty much agree on this things are someone who disobeyed the Royals
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Can anyone confirm if all of the Arcane Spheres shoot magic mortar shots at you? From what I have seen, only the one at Witchbane Ruins does and all of the others just spew sleep gas at you.
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I think the enemy is called a "School of Graven Mages", at least that seems to be the case from the Graven-School Talisman's description.
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I found one of them in Caelid in a canyon near the scarlet rot swamp near Sellia, the canyon was full of those constructs that normally guard evergaols + explosive constructs + this sphere of faces
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Found one of these alone in one of those towers with the magically sealed entrance. I think it must be a sorcerer who delved too deeply into forbidden knowledge or something.
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One popped up out of the small pond just north of the Ainsel River Well for me last night. It's a weird enemy.
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They appear to be transmogrified of former academy students. You find a friend become one after a certain questline is completed. You can find lore that may hint about them on the graven talismans. I'm unsure if it's a punishment of those who dabble with the primeval current or more of a experiment gone wrong in the process.
Having both this and Ball of Faces is unnecessary, someone should figure out which name is less silly and just have one page
I tested their elemental resistances using arrows and bolt (and accounted for counterattack damage). It seems they're most resistant to magic and weakest to holy. Between fire and lightning, I'm not sure which does more damage (I didn't have flaming bolts).
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