Preceptor Seluvis |
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Location | Seluvis's Rise, Three Sisters |
Role | Quest NPC and Merchant |
Voiced by | Charles Dale |
Preceptor Seluvis is an NPC in Elden Ring. Seluvis is a pompous sorcerer in service to Ranni the Witch. Seluvis Questline is important for players looking to make Magic Builds, so make sure to read all the Seluvis Questline steps below including a potential lockout due to your choices. Seluvis is first encountered in spectral form at Ranni's Rise in the Three Sisters sub-region of Liurnia of the Lakes.
I don't know what it is the mistress sees in a provincial Tarnished like you, but since we have the misfortune of serving the same Lady, I ask that you kindly try not to drag us all down with you.
Preceptor Seluvis Location in Elden Ring
Preceptor Seluvis is found in various locations:
- Seluvis is initially spoken to in spectral form at Ranni's Rise. [Map link]
- He can then be found in physical form at Seluvis's Rise. [Map link]
Seluvis Notes & Tips
- This NPC does not move, but will die if you proceed far enough in Ranni's questline.
- Like Sellen and Miriel, he can be given sorcery scrolls to increase his stock. Likewise, they can also be bought from his bell bearing.
- This merchant can't be fought.
- Upon death, drops:
Preceptor Seluvis Shop
After completing his first quest, he will become available as a merchant.
Item Name | Item Type | Purchase Value | Availability |
Carian Phalanx | Sorceries | 12000 | Always |
Carian Retaliation | Sorceries | 9000 | Always |
Glintstone Icecrag | Sorceries | 7500 | Always |
Freezing Mist | Sorceries | 6000 | Always |
Glintblade Phalanx | Sorceries | 2500 | Requires Royal House Scroll |
Carian Slicer | Sorceries | 1500 | Requires Royal House Scroll |
Great Glintstone Shard | Sorceries | 2000 | Requires Academy Scroll |
Swift Glintstone Shard | Sorceries | 600 | Requires Academy Scroll |
Glintstone Cometshard | Sorceries | 12000 | Requires Conspectus Scroll |
Star Shower | Sorceries | 10000 | Requires Conspectus Scroll |
Seluvis Questline: How to complete Precetor Seluvis's Quest
First Encounter
- Seluvis questline begins as he appears in spectral form on the ground floor of Ranni's Rise after speaking to Ranni for the first time.
- He asks you to meet him physically at his tower nearby.
Seluvis's Potion
- At Seluvis's Rise, he gives you Seluvis's Potion and tasks you with finding Nepheli Loux and having her drink it.
With the potion, there are two major paths to take:- Talk with Gideon Ofnir and discuss Seluvis's plan. He will offer to dispose of the potion, claiming that Seluvis will be none the wiser. Alternatively, you can instead keep the potion and hand it over to Nepheli.
- Feed it to Dung Eater. If the player has made progress in his questline to the point in which he is bound to a chair and accepting Seedbed Curses, it is possible to feed him the potion and return to Seluvis. He will then have a new dialogue option.
- If Nepheli or the Dung Eater was given the potion, their body can be found in Seluvis's laboratory, and their respective Ashes will be available for purchase from Selvuis using Starlight Shards as currency. Note that you must visit Seluvis's lab in the illusion-concealed basement of the building between Renna's Rise and Ranni's Rise, and then receive a free puppet from him, before you can buy the puppet you earned by using the potion.
- Regardless of your decision, Seluvis's response will be the same.
- Note: With only a single potion, you must make a choice between Nepheli's or Dung Eater's ashes in a given playthrough. Obtaining the other will require New Game Plus.
Betraying Ranni
- Note: You must complete the next steps before giving Ranni the Fingerslayer Blade. Giving it to her will cause Seluvis's death.
- Locating Seluvis's hidden chambers in the ruins outside of Ranni's Rise and interacting with the message within will allow you to ask Seluvis about the chamber. It is hidden beneath an illusory floor.
- When asked about his chambers, he will let you choose one of his puppet Spirit Ashes.
- After buying a second puppet, he will tell you about his plot.
- The exact steps to be able to buy the second puppet are as follows:
- Give Seluvis's potion to either Nepheli, Dung-eater or Gideon Ofnir.
- Acquire 3 Starlight Shards if you got the Finger Maiden Therolina Puppet the first time, or 2 Starlight Shards if you got the Jarwight Puppet the first time.
- Reload the area once, talk to Seluvis(he will repeat his last dialogue), reload the area again and he will give you the option to buy the second puppet. None of his sorceries are required to unlock the second puppet option.
- The exact steps to be able to buy the second puppet are as follows:
- Seluvis seeks to create a potion that will turn even a demigod into a puppet. To make it, he asks you to acquire an Amber Starlight shard, which can found in the Altus Plateau. Pidia, Carian Servant sells a Weathered Map to help deduce its exact location.
- Handing over the Amber Starlight shard will reward you with the Magic Scorpion Charm.
- Note: You can stop here with the talisman and continue with Ranni's questline.
- After reloading the area, he will give you the Amber Draught and ask you to administer it to Ranni.
- Note: Receiving the Amber Draught does not lock you into betraying Ranni. When the Draught is in your inventory, you can toggle between administering it to Ranni or simply talking with her to continue her quest line as normal.
- Upon doing so, she will wake up both saddened and outraged by your actions. She will demand that you leave, talking to her two more times will reuslt in her instantly killing you (no combat, you just drop dead). Ranni, Iji and Blaidd will have dissapeared from the game and cannot be interacted with again until you use absolve yourself of sins at the Church of Vows.
- Note: You can absolve yourself with Celestial Dew at the Church of Vows and continue Ranni's questline without consequence. The NPCs will act as if the Amber Draught episode has never happened.
- Seluvis will be found dead in his tower and Pidia will be killed by his puppets once you get near to his location.
Ranni's Questline
- After giving the Fingerslayer Blade to Ranni, Seluvis can then be found at Seluvis's Rise, dead; thus ending his questline.
- The end of his questline is synced with Pidia’s. When the questline ends, Pidia expresses shock that the puppets he loved so dearly would betray him, before letting out screams of terror and being torn apart by his puppets, leaving behind Pidia's Bell Bearing and a puppet (Dolores or Nepheli; Nepheli's Puppet Ashes will drop instead of Dolores's Puppet Ashes if she was given the potion).
Preceptor Seluvis Secondary Shop (Puppet Ashes)
Seluvis's puppet laboratory is located in one of the ruins near his tower. From Ranni's Rise Site of Grace, head outside and visit the first set of ruins on your left. Striking the floor will reveal an illusory floor and a staircase. Inside will be a message: "Seluvis's puppet. Do not touch." After confronting him about the laboratory and exhausting his dialogue, he will offer you one of his puppets. You can now exchange Starlight Shards for other available Ashes.
Item Name | Item Type | Purchase Value (Starlight Shards) | Availability |
Finger Maiden Therolina Puppet | Ashes | 2 | Always |
Jarwight Puppet | Ashes | 3 | Always |
Dolores the Sleeping Arrow Puppet | Ashes | 5 | You must have given Seluvis's Potion to Nepheli Loux |
Dung Eater Puppet | Ashes | 5 | You must have given Seluvis's Potion to Dung Eater |
Note: If Seluvis has died due to progress in Ranni's questline, it is still possible to purchase from this shop. Simply return to his dead body and a prompt will appear.
Note 2: Alternatively, Dolores's Puppet Ashes will drop from Pidia if the potion is given to Dung Eater, however you will not get Nepheli's Puppet Ashes from Pidia by doing so. (Nepheli's Puppet Ashes are not purchasable in the shop.)
Dialogue in Elden Ring: Preceptor Seluvis
Introduction:
- I see... You must be Ranni's new hireling.
Yes, yes, I've heard all about you.
I am Seluvis, preceptor in the sorcerous arts.
I don't know what it is the mistress sees in a provincial Tarnished like you,
but since we have the misfortune of serving the same Lady,
I ask that you kindly try not to drag us all down with you. - I reside...in another tower, close by.
Come and pay me a visit...
Should you wish to be of actual service to Mistress Ranni.
If it were up to me, I wouldn't waste my time on the likes of you.
But who am I to stand against the wishes of my Lady?
- Well, well. You took me at my word.
Did you not realise I was merely being polite? You provincials never cease to amaze...
Hmm, I suppose you're here now.
Perhaps I'll give you something to do.
I'd like you to find a woman called Nepheli, to administer a potion.
Even you can do that much, can't you?
[Accept the task]
Good, good.
Now I shall hand over the potion in question.
[Receives Seluvis's Potion]
Find Nepheli, and ensure she drinks it.
I except glad tidings. And soon.
- Well, well. You're asking me about that, are you?
The task was left to you and the mongrel, was it not?
Not only are you incompetent, but shameless to boot.
Well...there's no helping it.
Now's as good a time as any. I'll let you in on it.
There's a glintstone sorcerer by the name of Sellen in Limgrave.
She owes me for the help I gave her when she was expelled from the academy.
I asked her to look into the matter some time ago.
I'll write you a letter of introduction. Go ask her.
[Gives Seluvis's Introduction]
After giving someone Seluvis's Potion:
- Ahh, so you made Nepheli drink the potion?
Well done. You are a touch more useful than I had thought.
Very well. Then you shall have your gift.
Knowledge of the sorcerous arts, under the tutelage of the great Preceptor Seluvis.
I doubt much of it will lay within the grasp of a mere Tarnished, but...
If you put your mind to it, perhaps you won't embarrass our Lady. - You wish to begin right this moment?
Well, your impatience, though boorish, is understandable. Let's have at it.
Hand over the scroll:
- Hmm. Is that a scroll?
I won't bother to ask where you pilfered it, but...
You're correct to assume I'm one of the few who can decipher it.
So, I'm perfectly happy to take it off your hands.
That said, don't you dare get your hopes up.
More often than not, new knowledge is merely an opportunity to reflect...
...upon the mediocrity of one's intellect.
About Nepheli:
- So, you had Nepheli drink the potion? Truly?
Hmm. Then perhaps something was amiss with it.
It's concocted from the finest ingredients. But perhaps I should review the recipe.
I may have expected too much of her, to begin with.
About your chambers:
- You break into a man's private chambers, rooting about as you please?
Your oafishness knows no bounds.
Fine and well.
You tricked Nepheli, and had her drink the potion.
I believe that makes you my accomplice.
You yearn for a puppet of your own, hmm?
Well, normally one of your stature would never be allowed.
But perhaps I can make a very special exception.
Now, choose.
[Offers choice between Finger Maiden Therolina Puppet and Jarwight Puppet] - (Upon returning) How's the puppet I gave you? A thing of exquisite craft, is it not?
I want a new puppet (after accepting the free puppet and finding more Starlight Shards):
- What's that? You want another puppet?
Quite the keen paramour, aren't we.
But, I'm afraid each and every one is like a child to me.
I can hardly just give them away.
Oh dear, what's to be done?
Why don't you...fetch me some starlight shards?
If you can manage it, I'll gladly prepare a new puppet for you.
The soul of every puppet has its own ambience. You'll soon come to know, once you possess a few.
And once each's predilections are known to you, the better you'll be able to love them.
Oh yes, you have much to look forward to, further down this road.
[Opens puppet shop]
After purchasing another puppet:
- You're proving to be quite the puppeteer.
I've not had an apprentice for...a very long time indeed.
About the scheme:
- Perhaps, you'd be interested in a little scheme of mine?
It will produce the finest of puppets.
Which I aspire to cherish with these very hands.
A ploy to fool even Lady Ranni... How does that sound? - [I'm interested] Ahh, I knew I had you pegged.
You're just like me.
Then I'd like you to procure something.
A rather unique starlight shard that glistens with amber.
With that, my special draught will gleam with nectar-sweetness.
And even a demigod would be slave to its charms... - [I'm not interested] Very good. A wise choice, indeed. You passed my little test with flying colours. I was merely gauging your loyalty to Lady Ranni. Well done, I'm very proud of you. Let's both do our utmost in service of our Lady.
- [Returning to hear more about the scheme] Ah ha. Might you be interested after all? In a fine scheme to sport with Lady Ranni?
About Amber Starlight:
- Procure it for me.
The rather unique starlight shard that glistens with amber.
With that, my special draught will gleam with nectar-sweetness.
And even a demigod would be slave to its charms...
Give Amber Starlight:
- Well, well, you managed to lay your hands on it!
The blessed day is finally upon us...
Goodness gracious, the way it glistens...utterly enchanting.
To think, this was once a demigod's very fate...
My oh my oh my.... - Ah, are you still here?
Oh yes, I should give you your reward.
Please, it's all yours. Splendid work. Just marvelous.
[Gives Magic Scorpion Charm] - Now, just you wait. The merriment is soon to begin.
The scheme I promised is to be revealed very shortly... - (Talk again without reloading the area) You'll be flabbergasted, I can assure you.
The secret* I promised is to be revealed very shortly...
*He says "The secret" here, yet the subtitles repeat "The scheme" as in the previous line.
§Returning to Seluvis:
- Good, I've been waiting for you.
It's finally complete. The perfection of my draught, gleaming nectar-sweet.
Give it to Ranni and ensure she drinks it.
[Gives Amber Draught] - The dead-eyed doll lets down her guard in your presence, rather remarkably.
Though she might dip her hands in the dirt, and feign that icy persona...she's a frail, gentle girl at heart.
About the draught:
- You...understand, don't you?
That once you have Ranni drink my draught, my scheme will come to fruition.
And we, well, we'll be in a position to claim the very finest puppet ever crafted.
Just imagine...the pure elation...
When attacked:
- Agh! Enough of that, now. Have you forgotten that we both serve the same Lady?
- You incorrigible lout. Don't you dare waltz back here again.
Other:
- I have no time for idle chit chat. The only thing I will hear from you is a report of your task's completion. Are we understood? Then off you trot.
- Begging for another lesson so soon? There remains much to be done. Make it quick.
Preceptor Seluvis Notes & Trivia
- Gideon and Seluvis seem to have a long-standing hatred, if not rivalry, for each other.
- In between Ranni's Rise and Renna's Rise, you'll see a ruined building and a set of stairs that go down hidden by an illusory floor, protected by a Noble Sorcerer who is otherwise invisible unless close by.
- There are many doll-like figures around the basement, with a message saying "Seluvis's puppet. Do not touch." in the corner by a man with a jar for a head. A rather eerie thing to note is that puppets' eyes are following player's movements. The bodies of a Perfumer and an Omenkiller are also present, despite none of them being obtainable as puppets.
- After giving his potion to either Gideon, Nepehli, or Dung Eater, speaking to Seluvis about his basement will become available, in which he will give you access to one free Spirit Ash summon, with the other two available for purchase later.
- One of the ashes is only available if you give the potion to the Dung Eater or Nepheli, rather than letting Gideon dispose of it. (?)
- After giving his potion to either Gideon, Nepehli, or Dung Eater, speaking to Seluvis about his basement will become available, in which he will give you access to one free Spirit Ash summon, with the other two available for purchase later.
- A puppet of Sellen and Nepheli (if you give her the potion) can be found behind another illusory wall in the back of the cellar.
- Upon receiving Dolores as a puppet, it is discovered that Gideon and Seluvis were both in the Roundtable together, with Dolores. It is also noted that the two stopped talking because of her, implying a potential love triangle of sorts.
- The fact you receive Dolores only after giving Nepheli, Gideon's daughter, the potion and later find her as a doll also implies that Seluvis may have grown tired of Dolores as a puppet. It's possible he sought Gideon's adoptive daughter as a replacement.
- There are many doll-like figures around the basement, with a message saying "Seluvis's puppet. Do not touch." in the corner by a man with a jar for a head. A rather eerie thing to note is that puppets' eyes are following player's movements. The bodies of a Perfumer and an Omenkiller are also present, despite none of them being obtainable as puppets.
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I wish it was possible to turn Ranni into a puppet. The reward could be a new night sorcery, a somber ancient dragon smithing stone and unlocking an evil sorcerer ending.
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I hate Preceptor Seluvis so much.
I hate that he insults you constantly and treats you like crap.
I hate that he makes getting the magic scorpion charm quickly nearly impossible without the wiki.
I hate his creepy turning people-into-sex-toys thing and him trying to roofie and SA Nepheli.
I hate that his hideout is so hard to find.
I hate the fact you have to pretend to be a sex pest too to get the talisman.
I hate that Seluvis makes you reload his area multiple times to get the dialogue you want to do his questline when his tower doesn't have a grace at it.
I hate that he demands the limited and valuable resource of Starlight Shards.
I hate that the map someone else sells you to find the amber starlight shard is nearly useless.
Most of all I hate that after he subjects you to all of this to get his talisman and you try to kill him for all of the **** above, he teleports away instead of dying properly.
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Praetor Seluvis be like "We will drug the very gods togedah"
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I somehow got to the point in Ranni's questioned where she leaves the tower and Seluvis was still alive. He was fortunately dead the next time I paid him a visit.
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Do you get to the Caria district very often? Oh, what am I saying, of course you don’t.
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He's an insufferable *******, likely commits SA on his puppets, and his quest gives some potentially useful items, but completing the quest actively harms you since Ranni just kills you and hates you, making it immensely unsatisfying because there's not even the slightest mechanical reason to ever do it because you get ZERO rewards from it.
Honestly? I love that. It's nice to see evil people just remain irredeemably evil and you getting punished if you choose to help them. There's nothing good about this man, he's clearly evil, and the only reason Ranni hasn't offed him before you get there is because he might be behind her doll body, or he has some useful knowledge, or she's just that desperate for allies that she can't turn him away yet (Since, after all, she only has 3 NPC allies in the entire game - Blaidd, who is forced to try to betray her, Seluvis, who will eventually betray her, and Iji, who is the ONLY character who doesn't ever betray her at any point).
There's no possible justification for his actions, he's just a ****ey, garbage human being. Even Dungeater has the potential excuse of having being driven completely and utterly insane by his captors. I wish more writers would remember that, while most people are good at heart or have some underlying reason as to why they do evil, some people are just pieces of garbage. And it's nice when writers for games present the obviously evil option to the player and then make it completely and absolutely not worth doing at all.
10/10 writing here, Fromsoft. I absolutely love what you've done with this horrible, wretched, evil man and his quest.
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So like…It’s confirmed that Seluvis and Pidia are basically turning these people into sex dolls yeah, or is it just that my head canon has here two as being way more grotesque than was intended.
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"The Lunar Princess married a Tarnished. Millions must die."
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DS2's Manikin armour says that "The peculiar art of puppetry is a vestige of the two lost lands" which is something that Seluvis' quest alludes to preforming.
And the Mask of Confidences (the same one as Seluvis without the hat) have "the mouth sewn shut with gold thread" suggesting that it didn't have the thread at some point- look up DS2's Manikin mask.
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I don't know what the hell is up with my game. I've given Nepheli the potion, and she is in the basement and I've followed the steps to be able to purchase puppets from Seluvis, yet I STILL can't see her in his inventory. Can someone explain this?
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My theory is that Seluvis is actually a puppet controlled by Pidia and has been his avatar all along.
If you read Dolores’ spirit ash it tells you there was a love triangle between her, Seluvis and Gideon. After giving Seluvis’ potion to Gideon and completing Ranni’s questline, Seluvis is in a puppet stance. Visiting Pidia again prompts a dialogue where the puppets kill him and he drop Dolore’s spirt ash, the woman from the Gideon/Seluvis love triangle.
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Would've been kinda cool if doing this allowed Ranni to actually be made into a puppet that led to a questline end where He goes mad and you kill him and take the Ranni Puppet for a summon... (Granted that means making Ranni have an actual moveset and well... movement in general (she never moves/idles around like a player))
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yet another boring and needlessly convoluted questline that goes nowhere, woohoo
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An intersting fact about "dead" Selluvis - he is in the same pose as his puppets. Maybe Ranni got herself a puppet, too I wonder... =)
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I really love the fact that they put characters like Gideon and Seluvis into the game who are just mean, corrupt and twisted. Especially Seluvis as an ancient, sheming and morally unhinged mage who's plots know no bounds.
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Just wondering if i'm the only one who visited his lab third time(progressed along the Ranni questline, seen Pidia death, bought all puppets, finished Sellen questline) and heard voice here talking about how he is a part of Ranni and so on... Looks like Pidia and Seluvis are both just puppets of something else. And whatever it is it's not dead.
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You can just drop a starlight shard from your inventory pick it up and then go visit seluvis, worked for me. I had 10 shards when I went to go get the dung eaters puppet. So if you're like me and don't have any more to pick up(or will see one anytime soon)
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Killed him because he tried to diss me, somehow Ranni cared enough to make me fail her questline.
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You'd think they pull a Severus Snape thing and have him actually be a good person at the end of the day or something. But the fact that they just double down and make him way worse is actually kind of funny.
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Really lame how you can't actually succeed and mess Ranni up, but it's no wonder considering how big of a bias the devs have towards her.
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This could have actually been a good quest... if only the potion worked. It's so stupid that some FromSoftware characters are "Plot-Armored".
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It's possible for his shop to still be active after you complete Ranni's questline. I gave him the amber starlight shard and accepted the reward, but didn't talk to him after that. When I finished Ranni's questline (and killed Blaidd) and went to see him, "examine" is an option for his corpse. The NPC title of the shop just says "puppet" after this.
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"Note that you must visit Seluvis's lab in the illusion-concealed basement of the building between Renna's Rise and Ranni's Rise, and then receive a free puppet from him, BEFORE you can buy the puppet you earned by using the potion."
Thanks for that IMPORTANT info, dumba55 game.
I better still be able to get the Dung Eater.
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Wasnt killed by Ranni when I gave her the potion. She called me a hapless scum and told me to leave but I didn't die...
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Dolores also drops from Pidia if you gave the potion to Gideon
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You can give the Fingerslayer Blade to Ranni, exhaust her dialogue and then walk over to Seluvis, hand in the Amber Starlight shard and receive the Magic Scorpion Charm.
Seluvis only dies after a reload, so if you already acquired the Amber Starlight shard but forgot or delayed turning it in, this is your last chance. Just do not reload or fast travel to another site of grace.
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You can give the Fingerslayer Blade to Ranni, exhaust her dialogue and then walk over to Seluvis, hand in the Amber Starlight shard and receive the Magic Scorpion Charm.
Seluvis only dies after a reload, so if you already acquired the Amber Starlight shard but forgot or delayed turning it in, this is your last chance. Just do not reload or fast travel to another site of grace.
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Not gonna lie, it's kinda hard to not frenzyflame the sht out of this guy
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Seems like you have to interact with the message in his chambers to get the dialogue option confronting him about it.
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"go acquire another Starlight Shard, or drop one from your inventory and pick it up again". Found out the hard way that discard is not drop.
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Love that Ranni still takes the time to execute him before she leaves on her journey
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He wouldn't sell puppets to me after gifting me the first one. After following the directions listed on the wiki failed to open the shop, I turned to Reddit. Found a tip that waiting three days either in game time, or by a grace, would open the shop. Tested each day one by one by waiting at a grace, and surprisingly, after three days, it worked! Seluvis will now sell puppets to me.
I don't know of any other quests, or mechanics, that involve a day/night cycle rotation.
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You can obtain both puppets by going to Pidia after giving Ranni the fingerslayer blade. He is going to be killed by the guards and drop the dolores puppet
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Fun fact: Selluvis is a puppet himself, controlled by Pidia. When he "dies" at the same time as Pidia is tore limb from limb by his own puppets (likely controlled by Ranni) he falls down in the same position as the idle puppets of his room, meaning Pidia was the one controlling him all along.
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I'm almost positive that leaving this quest imcompleted (waiting on Finding Dung), it is also causing nepheli's quest to be froze at the part where she says them owl ashes smell good
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Make sure to talk to him again after getting the potion for Nepheli if you want to continue Sellen's quest to get the legendary spells.
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Tries to turn a doll into a doll, yes 100 IQ idea right there.
You don't need to buy his sorceries to progress his quest, just buy the puppets.
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Gideon offers to 'get one over on Seluvis' but then he says he'll dispose of the potion :(
I wish he'd help us use it on Seluvis instead. I would have liked to have him as a Spirit summon.
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I had a dream last night that you'd find Seluvis in the valiant gargoyles arena, and after killing him he'd drop a IWI Tavor assault rifle
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QUestion:
If Dungeater was on the chair, and I give him Seluvis potion, and then I kill dungeater, can I still get him as doll in this cycle? Someone said this was possible, but it didn't seem to work
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Seluvis is like straid of Ophalis if straid was stripped of his comically entertaining characteristics that make him loveable.
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I gave the potion to dung eater when he sits in his chair in the cell and asks for seedbed curses. Seluvis said.. So u gave the potion to dung eater.. I dont get it...
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I feel like this is the one souls character who is universally hated by the community.
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Between Seluvis and Dung Eater, I think Seluvis is ultimately the most horrible and disgusting character in the game. Dung Eater at least does what he does because of some deluded sense of duty toward his grand purpose, as he thinks it, plus he's definitely lost most of his mind.
Seluvis on the other hand is pure, petty malice. He turns people into his personal puppets, that he does what he wants with, only for his own personal pleasure. He is an egotistical, self serving, arrogant scumbag. Not only that, he is completely sane and ok with everything he does. Honestly, Seluvis disgusts me far more than Dung Eater.
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In my opinion, the absolute scummiest character in all the Soulsborne games. Finished his questline out of morbid curiosity, and certainly felt uncomfortable about the whole thing.
I know people bring up Ranni's 'plot armor' but I have an idea why Seluvis' grand scheme failed: Ranni is the only one of the Shardbearers that is not a living being. Her physical flesh is gone, replaced with the doll her spirit inhabits. And dolls typically don't react to drinking anything, let alone mind wiping substances.
If he was able to apply the potion to any other Shardbearer it's likely his grand plan to make one a puppet would have been successful, but in his...desires he chose the only one that was already, in a way, a puppet.
Ranni probably already knew about Selevus' 'hobby', but probably didn't think he'd go that far, or the Tarnished would agree to go with it. And in the end, he (and the Tarnished, maybe) get what he properly deserves.
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I’ve always wondered what a fight against Seluvis would be like. His mask/hat gives an arcane boost, so what spells or weapons would he utilize? Considering his appearance he’s a mage ( I know, mind-blowned). Any thoughts or fun guesses?
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You know he's a grade A pos when even Gideon (you know, the old jerkass who only cares about learning everything and disowns his own adopted daughter for refusing to slaughter a village full of innocents, and is generally a self centered douchebag who is an ahole to pretty much everyone) is disgusted by him and thinks he is insufferably full of himself and is willing to help you screw him over.
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"Note 2: Alternatively, Dolores's Puppet Ashes will drop from Pidia if the potion is given to Dung Eater, however you will not get Nepheli's Puppet Ashes from Pidia by doing so. (Nepheli's Puppet Ashes are not purchasable in the shop.)"
This is wrong - Dolores' Puppet Ashes will drop from Pidia at the end of the quest, regardless if the potion is given to either Gideon or Dung Eater, but not Nepheli (aka it's a free drop from Pidia unless the potion is given to Nepheli).
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If you refuse to help make Ranni a puppet then come back and ask about the scheme then refuse again he will say
“Alright, enough of these games. Your test is well and truly over. Wag your tail for master all you like but your loyalty is merely blind. I fear your wretched provinciality is apt to burst. You’re oozing at the seams.”
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So why does Ranni kill him? I thougt she already WAS in a doll' s body - her original one is gone. And then - even further - she turns into a LITTLE DOLL. I don' t get the story of this game.
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i can't believe they made bill cosby real. you've done it again, miyazaki
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[spoilers for an aspect of Ranni's questline]
I find it weird that people say Selvy'd succeeded without Ranni's "plot armor "
It's weird because the option of allowing Gideon to dispose of Selvus' potion rather than delivering it to its intended victim. Now, Gideon's a callous and manipulative bastard, but when he says that Selvus' won't notice because he's too busy looking up his own arsehole (paraphrasing), he's proven to be 100% correct.
Granted, Selvy's potion *does* work if used as intended, however the interaction with Gideon suggests that Selvy's knowledge is vastly outweighed by his ego (as if his dialog didn't already tip you off). So, is it really that surprising when his super-draught fails to work on Ranni?
I mean, sure it's got the proper god juice and everything...but it's a *draught* and Ranni is a *doll*. How's she even supposed to digest it!?
Maybe the "plot armor" bit comes from her instantly knowing what it is you're offering but...come on. Selvus hides his true nature about as well as a tiger hides its stripes (probably kept h around because it's not like Ranni's shown to be adverse to... underhanded machinations, so long as they suit her purpose)
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Of course he drugs his women. That insufferable personality and inferior strength isn’t going to get him any chicks.
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This creep seems like he would say "Bussy" unironically, god even saying that word makes me feel disgusting.
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They should have allowed you to give the potion to ranni proper...instead of the bullshite Mary Sue plot armor
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Dies if you proceed far enough in the quest line? That’s good, because I was planning on killing him at the cost of said quest
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First and foremost... Seluvis is one of the most strange and intriguing characters in the game and most interesting if I may say so myself. His' story arch could have been much bigger and let my wall of text explain.
Lets start with Seluvis of course. Seluvis is a cunning mastermind who's goal is to make Ranni a puppet, with other words poison her. This doesn't seem like much, but Ranni is a demi-god and part of the Royal Carian family who Seluvis clearly despises. This can be further proven by his' outfit "Worn by the magic preceptors who served the Carian royals." which means they don't do serve the carians anymore, but yet Seluvis tries to pretend he does serve Ranni (a carian royal), but quickly following down his' questline you know this is not true.
If you talk to Seluvis and do his' questline he will eventually mention he had an apprentice. Many think it is Pidia or that Pidia is actually Seluvis but I don't think so.
Sellen is Seluvis' apprentice.
We can see this when trying to find Nokron by asking Seluvis where it is, Seluvis will proceed to tell you about Sellen by giving you a paper of instructions. This indicates she works for him and that he knows where she is and what she is working on.
She seems to not like him, but she has something in common with him, they can both destroy the Carian Family and that's why she keeps working for him and she has been working on how to find Nokron for Seluvis for quite some time.
This is when she tells you about Radahn and that he needs to die for the primeval current to continue (A Carian Royal Family). Despite Seluvis in the game not knowing since you can't tell him, he have sent one of his' puppets, a fingermaiden. Which shows he knows more than he lets you on.
Sellen's task is not to get a Demi-god as a puppet like Seluvis wants, no she wants to restore the primeval current but by getting Ranni as a puppet she can easily take over the academy to restore it and that's where their goals is shared. Here's the problem though, Sellen is imprisoned by no other than a "Carian Knight", Jerren. By this point you have freed her of imprisonment and he has no idea.
But Jerren is no fool. He tracks her down to Renala where you have to choose between Jerren or Sellen, The Royal Carians or Primeval Current.
While Jerren's title is "Witch-Hunter Jerren" he tells us after killing Sellen in her questline that he's friends with Iji and he hopes to see you again in the future and if you infact get his' armor it says he used to be a nomad but after being a guest for a long time at the Carian royals and that he eventually made an oath bound to Radahn, Ranni's Brother. So he's not a true carian knight, but in the end he serves them and that's why he's trying to kill Sellen, because she threatens the Carian Family.
Should you choose Sellen you will succeed in restoring the primeval current... or that's what you think. She will become a ball and fail.
Should you help Seluvis, he will disappear/die and his' plan will fail.
So my point is without Ranni's plot armor. Seluvis would have succeeded and perhaps Sellen would have restored the primeval current again which would have meant Rennala would have stepped down OR would have been assassinated.
In the end Seluvis is a master scheming assassin who I believe survived. While Sellen, his' apprentice died/Balled, in an event of trying to bring down the Royal Carian Family, he failed and fled.
This is why I think Seluvis is the most interesting character, because if Ranni wasn't one of the protagnists of the game, he would have succeeded, but perhaps his' arrogance got to him. Anyways thanks for reading if you did, you have no idea how long time it took to write this and fact check all of it and if you do agree/disagree please write it down for me so I know :).
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“Upon receiving Dolores as a puppet, it is discovered that Gideon and Seluvis were both in the Roundtable together, with Dolores. It is also noted that the two stopped talking because of her, implying a potential love triangle of sorts.”
Is it implying that though? Dolores was Gideon’s explicit friend, and now she’s a puppet. If somebody turned your friend into a puppet would you not break ties with them? I see absolutely no reason to assume any manner of “love triangle” involvement.
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You don’t have to buy all his spells to continue the plot, tested today with a single spell bought he talks about the scheme after buying a puppet ( after the one he gives you for free)
worst character in the game. complete *******. even dung eater has a heroic end goal, getting rid of the hatred against omens. all seluvis wants is power.
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You don't have to buy any spell from him to continue his plot, I only bought the second puppet (Dung Eater) and the dialogue appeared.
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I love that when I search for him it autocorrects to delicious and the wiki still shows seluvis as the first option
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He called Blaidd a mongrel, jerk deserved everything he got.
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Concerning the lore... It's obvious that puppets/spirit ashes are known to many sorcerers and the "science" around it can be applied by multiple people. Seluvis is simply a preceptor who is very knowledgeable and commands his own puppets. Pidia however, is just the master/custodian of the puppets/soldiers protecting Caria Manor. Sellen and Rannis quests both reference becoming puppets by their own will. When Ranni realized Seluvis plot against her, she had him "puppetified" as a punishment
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It makes most sense to me that Ranni simply was the one in control of Seluvis's continued existence and therefore Pidia's by extension, as he zombifies in either timeline when she ****s off to become a hotglue figurine or if you try to give her the amber draught and she presumably pieces together that you and Seluvis conspired against her. In both cases his soul dies as a result of her leaving, causing poor ol' Pidia to get beaten to death by some angry and very ugly sex dolls. Why Ranni kept him around for so long is the real question, she's not an idiot and clearly didn't trust him as she appears able and willing to cut him off at any given moment. The most obvious first connection there being her doll body and his mastery of puppets, but how that works out or even if that's a connection at all I don't know. He clearly contributed something but only ever seems to be working on his own **** by the time we swoop in.
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You don’t have to buy all his spells to unlock his quest line to betray ranni, I only bought a puppet and one spell and it triggered
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As someone mentioned earlier, (evidenced by the nature of his death) I think Seluvis is a puppet as well! - a somehow sentient autonomous one created by Pida to carry out tasks he cannot since he is a crippled Albanuric. Ranni is a puppet of her own spirit and creation so it isn’t impossible to imagine. As naive as she may be for a “young” empyrean, she did seem to be aware that he was scum.
The only thing that doesn't make sense is how Pitiful Pidia is. I would expect the one pulling the strings (pun intended) to be a miniboss at least. Not to whine while getting ganked by the earliest mobs in the game. Someone like Gideon perhaps.
Maybe the real culprit here is the 3 fingers again, but they seem to be **** at planning things and just resort to sending a ton of assassins at the end as a last ditch effort. As bottom feeder as Pidia may be, maybe the fingers saw him as one of the few manipulatable entities capable of creating a puppet to house Seluvis, one of the many tools planned to observe/get rid of Ranni. Maybe they just dropped a hint in his bedchambers one day and the rest is history.
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"Quite the keen paramour, aren't we."
'Paramour' = 'a lover, especially the illicit partner of a married person'.
Yeah, that bed in his hidden chamber is for exactly what it looks like.
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so if you try to kill him before reseting the area after you give ranni the finger slayer blade you will lock your self out of her quest so dont do it
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His dialogue when you refuse to help him is funny” I can feel my wits evaporating In your presence” Lmao.
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How do you get Selvious to give you the letter for Sellen. I did this on my very first playthrough but have never been able to so Sellens quest since
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im not saying Seluvis had sex with his Sellen puppet, but its kind of strange he has a life-sized replica of her in the bedroom of his hidden dungeon
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If you attack Seluvis and he disappears from his rise, do you lose the chance to get his drops?
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hmm I been trying to play without reading guides this is what happened: I found radam, killed him, then found Ranni and seluvis. gave the potion to gideon... found the whole in limgrave and went in and got the item for ranni and gave it to her. Then I found renala and won that.then been walking around and found the astel natural boy but havent beat him. and last night I remembered I had the doll on me lol and talked to her.
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I like how everyone’s filthy mind projects that he must be screwing the puppets because there’s a small bed lol. The dolly botherer’s basement is just a doll house for his collection of corpses. The freak probably just brushes their hair and has tea parties with his favorite corpse slave.
I wish there was some use for that "demigod drug" of his. Imagine getting npc or boss of your choice as a puppet
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