Preceptor Seluvis | Elden Ring Wiki

Not gonna lie, it's kinda hard to not frenzyflame the sht out of this guy

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Seems like you have to interact with the message in his chambers to get the dialogue option confronting him about it.

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"go acquire another Starlight Shard, or drop one from your inventory and pick it up again". Found out the hard way that discard is not drop.

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bill cosby

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Giant,
but hole ahead

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Love that Ranni still takes the time to execute him before she leaves on her journey

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He wouldn't sell puppets to me after gifting me the first one. After following the directions listed on the wiki failed to open the shop, I turned to Reddit. Found a tip that waiting three days either in game time, or by a grace, would open the shop. Tested each day one by one by waiting at a grace, and surprisingly, after three days, it worked! Seluvis will now sell puppets to me.

I don't know of any other quests, or mechanics, that involve a day/night cycle rotation.

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Can you still get to astel after seluvis is dead?

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You can obtain both puppets by going to Pidia after giving Ranni the fingerslayer blade. He is going to be killed by the guards and drop the dolores puppet

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Fun fact: Selluvis is a puppet himself, controlled by Pidia. When he "dies" at the same time as Pidia is tore limb from limb by his own puppets (likely controlled by Ranni) he falls down in the same position as the idle puppets of his room, meaning Pidia was the one controlling him all along.

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I'm almost positive that leaving this quest imcompleted (waiting on Finding Dung), it is also causing nepheli's quest to be froze at the part where she says them owl ashes smell good

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Make sure to talk to him again after getting the potion for Nepheli if you want to continue Sellen's quest to get the legendary spells.

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Based

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Tries to turn a doll into a doll, yes 100 IQ idea right there.

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You don't need to buy his sorceries to progress his quest, just buy the puppets.

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Imagine if he had those puppets in giant jars

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Gideon offers to 'get one over on Seluvis' but then he says he'll dispose of the potion :(
I wish he'd help us use it on Seluvis instead. I would have liked to have him as a Spirit summon.

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WHY IS THERE A BED IN HIS "SELUVIS'S PUPPET" ROOM

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I had a dream last night that you'd find Seluvis in the valiant gargoyles arena, and after killing him he'd drop a IWI Tavor assault rifle

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QUestion:
If Dungeater was on the chair, and I give him Seluvis potion, and then I kill dungeater, can I still get him as doll in this cycle? Someone said this was possible, but it didn't seem to work

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Cover your crimson flask when you go to his tower

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he tried bill cosby'ing a demigod lmao

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these quests be confusing as ****

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Love him or hate him, the dude's elden bling is fire

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Seluvis is like straid of Ophalis if straid was stripped of his comically entertaining characteristics that make him loveable.

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I gave the potion to dung eater when he sits in his chair in the cell and asks for seedbed curses. Seluvis said.. So u gave the potion to dung eater.. I dont get it...

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I feel like this is the one souls character who is universally hated by the community.

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Between Seluvis and Dung Eater, I think Seluvis is ultimately the most horrible and disgusting character in the game. Dung Eater at least does what he does because of some deluded sense of duty toward his grand purpose, as he thinks it, plus he's definitely lost most of his mind.

Seluvis on the other hand is pure, petty malice. He turns people into his personal puppets, that he does what he wants with, only for his own personal pleasure. He is an egotistical, self serving, arrogant scumbag. Not only that, he is completely sane and ok with everything he does. Honestly, Seluvis disgusts me far more than Dung Eater.

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In my opinion, the absolute scummiest character in all the Soulsborne games. Finished his questline out of morbid curiosity, and certainly felt uncomfortable about the whole thing.

I know people bring up Ranni's 'plot armor' but I have an idea why Seluvis' grand scheme failed: Ranni is the only one of the Shardbearers that is not a living being. Her physical flesh is gone, replaced with the doll her spirit inhabits. And dolls typically don't react to drinking anything, let alone mind wiping substances.

If he was able to apply the potion to any other Shardbearer it's likely his grand plan to make one a puppet would have been successful, but in his...desires he chose the only one that was already, in a way, a puppet.

Ranni probably already knew about Selevus' 'hobby', but probably didn't think he'd go that far, or the Tarnished would agree to go with it. And in the end, he (and the Tarnished, maybe) get what he properly deserves.

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where does he go if attacked?

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cant believe they added bill cosby to elden ring

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Sounds like a telvanni dunmer

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I’ve always wondered what a fight against Seluvis would be like. His mask/hat gives an arcane boost, so what spells or weapons would he utilize? Considering his appearance he’s a mage ( I know, mind-blowned). Any thoughts or fun guesses?

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You know he's a grade A pos when even Gideon (you know, the old jerkass who only cares about learning everything and disowns his own adopted daughter for refusing to slaughter a village full of innocents, and is generally a self centered douchebag who is an ahole to pretty much everyone) is disgusted by him and thinks he is insufferably full of himself and is willing to help you screw him over.

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He is gone for me not even in his tower where could he be

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"Note 2: Alternatively, Dolores's Puppet Ashes will drop from Pidia if the potion is given to Dung Eater, however you will not get Nepheli's Puppet Ashes from Pidia by doing so. (Nepheli's Puppet Ashes are not purchasable in the shop.)"

This is wrong - Dolores' Puppet Ashes will drop from Pidia at the end of the quest, regardless if the potion is given to either Gideon or Dung Eater, but not Nepheli (aka it's a free drop from Pidia unless the potion is given to Nepheli).

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If you refuse to help make Ranni a puppet then come back and ask about the scheme then refuse again he will say
“Alright, enough of these games. Your test is well and truly over. Wag your tail for master all you like but your loyalty is merely blind. I fear your wretched provinciality is apt to burst. You’re oozing at the seams.”

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They really gave this guy the comically evil villain voice

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So why does Ranni kill him? I thougt she already WAS in a doll' s body - her original one is gone. And then - even further - she turns into a LITTLE DOLL. I don' t get the story of this game.

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i can't believe they made bill cosby real. you've done it again, miyazaki

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[spoilers for an aspect of Ranni's questline]

I find it weird that people say Selvy'd succeeded without Ranni's "plot armor "

It's weird because the option of allowing Gideon to dispose of Selvus' potion rather than delivering it to its intended victim. Now, Gideon's a callous and manipulative bastard, but when he says that Selvus' won't notice because he's too busy looking up his own arsehole (paraphrasing), he's proven to be 100% correct.

Granted, Selvy's potion *does* work if used as intended, however the interaction with Gideon suggests that Selvy's knowledge is vastly outweighed by his ego (as if his dialog didn't already tip you off). So, is it really that surprising when his super-draught fails to work on Ranni?

I mean, sure it's got the proper god juice and everything...but it's a *draught* and Ranni is a *doll*. How's she even supposed to digest it!?

Maybe the "plot armor" bit comes from her instantly knowing what it is you're offering but...come on. Selvus hides his true nature about as well as a tiger hides its stripes (probably kept h around because it's not like Ranni's shown to be adverse to... underhanded machinations, so long as they suit her purpose)

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Of course he drugs his women. That insufferable personality and inferior strength isn’t going to get him any chicks.

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This creep seems like he would say "Bussy" unironically, god even saying that word makes me feel disgusting.

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They should have allowed you to give the potion to ranni proper...instead of the bullshite Mary Sue plot armor

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Dies if you proceed far enough in the quest line? That’s good, because I was planning on killing him at the cost of said quest

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First and foremost... Seluvis is one of the most strange and intriguing characters in the game and most interesting if I may say so myself. His' story arch could have been much bigger and let my wall of text explain.

Lets start with Seluvis of course. Seluvis is a cunning mastermind who's goal is to make Ranni a puppet, with other words poison her. This doesn't seem like much, but Ranni is a demi-god and part of the Royal Carian family who Seluvis clearly despises. This can be further proven by his' outfit "Worn by the magic preceptors who served the Carian royals." which means they don't do serve the carians anymore, but yet Seluvis tries to pretend he does serve Ranni (a carian royal), but quickly following down his' questline you know this is not true.

If you talk to Seluvis and do his' questline he will eventually mention he had an apprentice. Many think it is Pidia or that Pidia is actually Seluvis but I don't think so.
Sellen is Seluvis' apprentice.

We can see this when trying to find Nokron by asking Seluvis where it is, Seluvis will proceed to tell you about Sellen by giving you a paper of instructions. This indicates she works for him and that he knows where she is and what she is working on.
She seems to not like him, but she has something in common with him, they can both destroy the Carian Family and that's why she keeps working for him and she has been working on how to find Nokron for Seluvis for quite some time.

This is when she tells you about Radahn and that he needs to die for the primeval current to continue (A Carian Royal Family). Despite Seluvis in the game not knowing since you can't tell him, he have sent one of his' puppets, a fingermaiden. Which shows he knows more than he lets you on.

Sellen's task is not to get a Demi-god as a puppet like Seluvis wants, no she wants to restore the primeval current but by getting Ranni as a puppet she can easily take over the academy to restore it and that's where their goals is shared. Here's the problem though, Sellen is imprisoned by no other than a "Carian Knight", Jerren. By this point you have freed her of imprisonment and he has no idea.
But Jerren is no fool. He tracks her down to Renala where you have to choose between Jerren or Sellen, The Royal Carians or Primeval Current.

While Jerren's title is "Witch-Hunter Jerren" he tells us after killing Sellen in her questline that he's friends with Iji and he hopes to see you again in the future and if you infact get his' armor it says he used to be a nomad but after being a guest for a long time at the Carian royals and that he eventually made an oath bound to Radahn, Ranni's Brother. So he's not a true carian knight, but in the end he serves them and that's why he's trying to kill Sellen, because she threatens the Carian Family.

Should you choose Sellen you will succeed in restoring the primeval current... or that's what you think. She will become a ball and fail.
Should you help Seluvis, he will disappear/die and his' plan will fail.

So my point is without Ranni's plot armor. Seluvis would have succeeded and perhaps Sellen would have restored the primeval current again which would have meant Rennala would have stepped down OR would have been assassinated.
In the end Seluvis is a master scheming assassin who I believe survived. While Sellen, his' apprentice died/Balled, in an event of trying to bring down the Royal Carian Family, he failed and fled.

This is why I think Seluvis is the most interesting character, because if Ranni wasn't one of the protagnists of the game, he would have succeeded, but perhaps his' arrogance got to him. Anyways thanks for reading if you did, you have no idea how long time it took to write this and fact check all of it and if you do agree/disagree please write it down for me so I know :).

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“Upon receiving Dolores as a puppet, it is discovered that Gideon and Seluvis were both in the Roundtable together, with Dolores. It is also noted that the two stopped talking because of her, implying a potential love triangle of sorts.”

Is it implying that though? Dolores was Gideon’s explicit friend, and now she’s a puppet. If somebody turned your friend into a puppet would you not break ties with them? I see absolutely no reason to assume any manner of “love triangle” involvement.

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You don’t have to buy all his spells to continue the plot, tested today with a single spell bought he talks about the scheme after buying a puppet ( after the one he gives you for free)

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how do i buy second puppet? oh boy

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worst character in the game. complete *******. even dung eater has a heroic end goal, getting rid of the hatred against omens. all seluvis wants is power.

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my favorite NPC

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You don't have to buy any spell from him to continue his plot, I only bought the second puppet (Dung Eater) and the dialogue appeared.

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VA sounds a bit like Vulpes Inculta from Fallout New Vegas

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I love that when I search for him it autocorrects to delicious and the wiki still shows seluvis as the first option

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He called Blaidd a mongrel, jerk deserved everything he got.

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Concerning the lore... It's obvious that puppets/spirit ashes are known to many sorcerers and the "science" around it can be applied by multiple people. Seluvis is simply a preceptor who is very knowledgeable and commands his own puppets. Pidia however, is just the master/custodian of the puppets/soldiers protecting Caria Manor. Sellen and Rannis quests both reference becoming puppets by their own will. When Ranni realized Seluvis plot against her, she had him "puppetified" as a punishment

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It makes most sense to me that Ranni simply was the one in control of Seluvis's continued existence and therefore Pidia's by extension, as he zombifies in either timeline when she ****s off to become a hotglue figurine or if you try to give her the amber draught and she presumably pieces together that you and Seluvis conspired against her. In both cases his soul dies as a result of her leaving, causing poor ol' Pidia to get beaten to death by some angry and very ugly sex dolls. Why Ranni kept him around for so long is the real question, she's not an idiot and clearly didn't trust him as she appears able and willing to cut him off at any given moment. The most obvious first connection there being her doll body and his mastery of puppets, but how that works out or even if that's a connection at all I don't know. He clearly contributed something but only ever seems to be working on his own **** by the time we swoop in.

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You don’t have to buy all his spells to unlock his quest line to betray ranni, I only bought a puppet and one spell and it triggered

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Feels like a cheap Snape rip off

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As someone mentioned earlier, (evidenced by the nature of his death) I think Seluvis is a puppet as well! - a somehow sentient autonomous one created by Pida to carry out tasks he cannot since he is a crippled Albanuric. Ranni is a puppet of her own spirit and creation so it isn’t impossible to imagine. As naive as she may be for a “young” empyrean, she did seem to be aware that he was scum.

The only thing that doesn't make sense is how Pitiful Pidia is. I would expect the one pulling the strings (pun intended) to be a miniboss at least. Not to whine while getting ganked by the earliest mobs in the game. Someone like Gideon perhaps.

Maybe the real culprit here is the 3 fingers again, but they seem to be **** at planning things and just resort to sending a ton of assassins at the end as a last ditch effort. As bottom feeder as Pidia may be, maybe the fingers saw him as one of the few manipulatable entities capable of creating a puppet to house Seluvis, one of the many tools planned to observe/get rid of Ranni. Maybe they just dropped a hint in his bedchambers one day and the rest is history.

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FEEBLE CURSE ONE

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"Quite the keen paramour, aren't we."

'Paramour' = 'a lover, especially the illicit partner of a married person'.

Yeah, that bed in his hidden chamber is for exactly what it looks like.

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he sucks but his drip is immaculate

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so if you try to kill him before reseting the area after you give ranni the finger slayer blade you will lock your self out of her quest so dont do it

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His dialogue when you refuse to help him is funny” I can feel my wits evaporating In your presence” Lmao.

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How do you get Selvious to give you the letter for Sellen. I did this on my very first playthrough but have never been able to so Sellens quest since

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im not saying Seluvis had sex with his Sellen puppet, but its kind of strange he has a life-sized replica of her in the bedroom of his hidden dungeon

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If you attack Seluvis and he disappears from his rise, do you lose the chance to get his drops?

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hmm I been trying to play without reading guides this is what happened: I found radam, killed him, then found Ranni and seluvis. gave the potion to gideon... found the whole in limgrave and went in and got the item for ranni and gave it to her. Then I found renala and won that.then been walking around and found the astel natural boy but havent beat him. and last night I remembered I had the doll on me lol and talked to her.

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I like how everyone’s filthy mind projects that he must be screwing the puppets because there’s a small bed lol. The dolly botherer’s basement is just a doll house for his collection of corpses. The freak probably just brushes their hair and has tea parties with his favorite corpse slave.

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I really like this character. Good VA, interesting design and he's very well written. He give off a creepy pervert vibe so naturally, it never feels too forced. I also find it funny that finishing his quest not only gets him killed (standard souls game quest ending) but you die as well!

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is there any chance seluvis is the puppet version of pidia, or am I reading into it wrong?

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Most annoying npc in the game

Dislike this comment if you agree

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Notice that the pose he's in when he "dies" mimics the pose of many of his puppets. Plus it seems odd that he would spontaneously die like that because Ranni left. Wondering if he tried one of his own roofies and got turned into a puppet.

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This dude definitely gets his dung eaten.

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I’m having an issue in NG+. I found the puppet chamber and bought all his spells. I tried buying the puppets (which I already have from my previous play through) and as soon as I tried to buy one, some message briefly flashed saying I couldn’t have more in my inventory or something, and then the puppet shop disappeared and I can no longer access it. His quest will not advance further.

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dolores the sleeping puppet - I honestly don't recall the sequence of events, but I got this puppet from seluvis, after his 'death' and I gave the potion to Gideon. So I think the "must give the potion to nepheli" req is incorrect.

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There is a Let Me Solo Her puppet in his lab on the right that is so scary

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If Pidia actually is Seluvis, that might explain Gideon's actions in the Village of the Albinaurics. Perhaps it was some sort of revenge for turning Dolores into a ... Regardless, it's astounding that this guy manages to make you feel sorry for Gideon of all people.

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Does this guy have a crush on Sellen or something? He has a complete puppet of her in a secret room with a bed next to it which creates a rather unsettling implication.

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On the theory concerning Pidia being Seluvis, I have some opinions to share.

I feel that there are far too many contradictory pieces of evidence when it comes to Pidia being Seluvis, there are alibies, and of course the prominence of Seluvis's individuality. Ranni treated Seluvis as a loyal servant, Gideon recognized him as a puppeteer and former colleague, and others who have worked intimately with Seluvis had not noticed any discrepancies in his personality, which would have at some point become apparent to any one of them. Especially with Pidia being as unstable as he is, there are bound to be slip ups.

What I propose is that Seluvis and Pidia may have had a Frankenstein / Igor relationship, with Pidia playing the part of "mortician" in a sense, preparing the bodies for use. I believe this may be why you are not immediately given the puppets after administering Seluvis's draught. Something more needs to be done for them to be fully functioning puppets capable of heeding commands and summons. This would also explain why Pidia has the Napheli ashes in his possession upon his death. He was "preparing" her to to be utilized as a puppet. This is corroborated by the fact that Pidia himself says he is "charged" with maintaining the dolls. Clearly Seluvis had ordered Pidia to maintain their forms, perhaps Pidia had some sort of expertise in this matter that rendered him useful to Seluvis.

And knowing Seluvis's modus operandi, he is clearly the dominating figure between the two, having abused / scared Pidia witless into doing his bidding. Another thing to note: only a few of the puppets surrounding Pidia had physically assaulted him, all of them being Cuckoo Knights. This could suggest that Seluvis had them planted there specifically to guard Pidia and eliminate him should anything compromise Seluvis's scheme. This would allow Seluvis to tie up loose ends, and ensure that there was no trail to follow in the event that he desired to hide himself.

Seluvis was also notably clever, having aided Sellen when she was expelled from the academy, creating a puppet for her and teaching her how to transfer her own consciousness from one body to another, effectively allowing her to evade those hunting her as she pursued her studies. A man such as Seluvis would surely have a failsafe of his own, and would never put his host body in jeopardy in the event that something should befall him. He knew that he had potential enemies everywhere, even Blaidd teased the idea of killing him and was tasked by the Two Fingers to relentlessly pursue anyone who threatens Ranni's life. This is why the Seluvis that is "killed" by Ranni, is merely a puppet. Where his host body actually resides is unknown, and will likely stay that way. Seluvis, like Sellen, will continue to pursue his studies in secret far from Ranni's gaze now that she is wise to his treachery.

One other thing to note concerning Ranni is that while she is immensely powerful, she does bear the characteristics of a young girl / princess. She can be quite proud and naïve at times, which we can see during your interaction with her doll and her disbelief that you saw through her guise. It is also evident in her deep familial relationship / trust with her hirelings, which is what I believe allows Seluvis to get away with much of his scheming and general nefariousness for so long.

So to sum it up, I personally feel this is the most likely of scenarios. There are far too many holes in the Pidia = Seluvis theory, some that are even lore-bending. But that is simply my take, at the end of the day this is all left to our interpretation, but hopefully my perspective may help shed some light on the totally convoluted rabbit hole that is Seluvis's questline. Lol.

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Do we really have to listen to this this ass insult us while explaining our task, I wish the tarnished could tell him to shut up or we punch him in his lil ***** mouth.

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The VA does a great job of sounding like an insufferable POS

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This guy tried to turn a puppet into a puppet. Genious.

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I like how so many random characters know and hate this ahole

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Is it possible that you can no longer get the spirit ashes after you try to kill the dung eater?
I gave him the potion, waited for around 20 seconds and killed him. Then I got the armor as was mentioned, but when I returned to seluvius he asked if I really have her the potion, and said something other I can't remember.
And now there is neither a conversation option about puppets, nor about spirit ashes.
Oh well, new game it is :/

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When you try to kill him when you first meet him (before asking about Nokron and disposing of his potion), he will teleport away, Ranni will disappear and Blaidd will become hostile. You can revert this by seeking forgiveness at the Church of Vows, which will respawn Seluvis and make Blaidd friendly again. I guess it's because he still has some vital information on how to reach Nokron. Probably just have to progress further through the questline until you can get rid of this clown without any repercussions.

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One of if not the most disturbing a****** in all of the souls series (only 2nd the dung eater). We are literally helping him roofie Gideons adoptive daughter so he can do God knows what to her unresponsive body. Hell, he even wanted us to roofie Ronnie too. If this doesn’t convence you that this guys a pedophile I don’t know what will.

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It is not necessary to purchase all of Seluvis's sorceries to advance his quest, you only need the 2nd puppet

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It is not necessary to purchase all of Seluvis's sorceries to advance his quest, you only need the 2nd puppet

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After seeing his death pose, I think that seluvis himself is a puppet, which gives a new spin on him being eager to turn everyone around him to the same beings as himself, making him not just a puppet, but a puppeteer, which kinda goes together with his title being preceptor (from what I understand, it means teacher or instructor, which would make Seluvis a teacher of puppets)

Also sorcerers of all kinds made marionettes as their minions, so Seluvis being a marionette that wanted to be a real boy with his own puppet army seems very believable.

Also consider Pidia. Could be Seluvis's former master. Fits too, knowing that Pidia meets his end being killed by his own puppets.

It's just Seluvis flew a bit too close to the sun, trying to take control over the demigod puppet.

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This quest is so finicky it never works the way I did it previously

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for some reason he wont appear in rannis rise - i cant also exit the tower because ranni tells me to talk to him...

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There's perfumers in this game that harvest organ to make special potions, a guy that curses souls for eternity by consuming their anogenital area, and the literal manifestation of chaos that drives peoole crazy by melting their eyeballs. Yet somehow Seluvis ended up being hated more than all of them together. Good job, Seluvis!

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There's perfumers in this game that harvest organ to make special potions, a guy that curses souls for eternity by consuming their anogenital area, and the literal manifestation of chaos that drives peoole crazy by melting their eyeballs. Yet somehow Seluvis ended up being hated more than all of them together. Good job, Seluvis!

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There's perfumers in this game that harvest organ to make special potions, a guy that curses souls for eternity by consuming their anogenital area, and the literal manifestation of chaos that drives peoole crazy by melting their eyeballs. Yet somehow Seluvis ended up being hated more than all of them together. Good job, Seluvis!

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If you enjoy drugging nepheli for his quest or not is how to find out if you’re good or if you are just terrible as a person.

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Just finish his quest, I only got the free puppet & buy dung eater puppet and he give "the scheme" dialogue and trigger the quest, no need to buy the other puppet

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You’ve heard of THE LOATHSOME DUNG EATER
Now get ready for THE TWISTED DOLLY BOTHERER

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Most Hated Character! and rightly so

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