Preceptor Seluvis

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Location Seluvis's Rise, Three Sisters
Role Quest NPC and Merchant
Voiced by Charles Dale

Preceptor Seluvis is an NPC in Elden Ring. Seluvis is a pompous sorcerer in service to Ranni the Witch. Seluvis Questline is important for players looking to make Magic Builds, so make sure to read all the Seluvis Questline steps below including a potential lockout due to your choices. Seluvis is first encountered in spectral form at Ranni's Rise in the Three Sisters sub-region of Liurnia of the Lakes.

 

I don't know what it is the mistress sees in a provincial Tarnished like you, but since we have the misfortune of serving the same Lady, I ask that you kindly try not to drag us all down with you.

 

Preceptor Seluvis Location in Elden Ring

Preceptor Seluvis is found in various locations:

  1. Seluvis is initially spoken to in spectral form at Ranni's Rise. [Map link]
  2. He can then be found in physical form at Seluvis's Rise. [Map link]

 

Seluvis Notes & Tips

 

Preceptor Seluvis Shop

After completing his first quest, he will become available as a merchant.

Item Name Item Type Purchase Value Availability
Carian Phalanx Sorceries 12000 Always
Carian Retaliation Sorceries 9000 Always
Glintstone Icecrag Sorceries 7500 Always
Freezing Mist Sorceries 6000 Always
Glintblade Phalanx Sorceries 2500 Requires Royal House Scroll
Carian Slicer Sorceries 1500 Requires Royal House Scroll
Great Glintstone Shard Sorceries  2000 Requires Academy Scroll
Swift Glintstone Shard Sorceries  600 Requires Academy Scroll
Glintstone Cometshard Sorceries  12000 Requires Conspectus Scroll
Star Shower Sorceries  10000 Requires Conspectus Scroll

 

Seluvis Questline: How to complete Precetor Seluvis's Quest

First Encounter

  • Seluvis questline begins as he appears in spectral form on the ground floor of Ranni's Rise after speaking to Ranni for the first time.
  • He asks you to meet him physically at his tower nearby.

Seluvis's Potion

  • At Seluvis's Rise, he gives you Seluvis's Potion and tasks you with finding Nepheli Loux and having her drink it.
    With the potion, there are two major paths to take:
    1. Talk with Gideon Ofnir and discuss Seluvis's plan. He will offer to dispose of the potion, claiming that Seluvis will be none the wiser. Alternatively, you can instead keep the potion and hand it over to Nepheli.
    2. Feed it to Dung Eater. If the player has made progress in his questline to the point in which he is bound to a chair and accepting Seedbed Curses, it is possible to feed him the potion and return to Seluvis. He will then have a new dialogue option.
  • If Nepheli or the Dung Eater was given the potion, their body can be found in Seluvis's laboratory, and their respective Ashes will be available for purchase from Selvuis using Starlight Shards as currency. Note that you must visit Seluvis's lab in the illusion-concealed basement of the building between Renna's Rise and Ranni's Rise, and then receive a free puppet from him, before you can buy the puppet you earned by using the potion.
  • Regardless of your decision, Seluvis's response will be the same.
    • Note: With only a single potion, you must make a choice between Nepheli's or Dung Eater's ashes in a given playthrough. Obtaining the other will require New Game Plus.

Betraying Ranni

  • Note: You must complete the next steps before giving Ranni the Fingerslayer Blade. Giving it to her will cause Seluvis's death.
  • Locating Seluvis's hidden chambers in the ruins outside of Ranni's Rise and interacting with the message within will allow you to ask Seluvis about the chamber. It is hidden beneath an illusory floor.
  • When asked about his chambers, he will let you choose one of his puppet Spirit Ashes.
  • After buying a second puppet, he will tell you about his plot.
    • The exact steps to be able to buy the second puppet are as follows:
      • Give Seluvis's potion to either Nepheli, Dung-eater or Gideon Ofnir.
      • Acquire 3 Starlight Shards if you got the Finger Maiden Therolina Puppet the first time, or 2 Starlight Shards if you got the Jarwight Puppet the first time.
      • Reload the area once, talk to Seluvis(he will repeat his last dialogue), reload the area again and he will give you the option to buy the second puppet. None of his sorceries are required to unlock the second puppet option.
  • Seluvis seeks to create a potion that will turn even a demigod into a puppet. To make it, he asks you to acquire an Amber Starlight shard, which can found in the Altus Plateau. Pidia, Carian Servant sells a Weathered Map to help deduce its exact location.
  • Handing over the Amber Starlight shard will reward you with the Magic Scorpion Charm.
    • Note: You can stop here with the talisman and continue with Ranni's questline.
  • After reloading the area, he will give you the Amber Draught and ask you to administer it to Ranni.
  • Upon doing so, she will wake up both saddened and outraged by your actions. Exhausting Ranni's dialogue will lead to her killing you and Seluvis. His body can be found at his tower with Ranni and Iji disappearing from the area.

Ranni's Questline

  • After giving the Fingerslayer Blade to Ranni, Seluvis can then be found at Seluvis's Rise, dead; thus ending his questline.
  • The end of his questline is synced with Pidia’s. When the questline ends, Pidia expresses shock that the puppets he loved so dearly would betray him, before letting out screams of terror and being torn apart by his puppets, leaving behind Pidia's Bell Bearing and a puppet (Dolores or Nepheli; Nepheli's Puppet Ashes will drop instead of Dolores's Puppet Ashes if she was given the potion).

 

Preceptor Seluvis Secondary Shop (Puppet Ashes)

Seluvis's puppet laboratory is located in one of the ruins near his tower. From Ranni's Rise Site of Grace, head outside and visit the first set of ruins on your left. Striking the floor will reveal an illusory floor and a staircase. Inside will be a message: "Seluvis's puppet. Do not touch." After confronting him about the laboratory and exhausting his dialogue, he will offer you one of his puppets. You can now exchange Starlight Shards for other available Ashes.

Item Name Item Type Purchase Value (Starlight Shards) Availability
Finger Maiden Therolina Puppet Ashes 2 Always
Jarwight Puppet Ashes 3 Always
Dolores the Sleeping Arrow Puppet Ashes 5 You must have given Seluvis's Potion to Nepheli Loux
Dung Eater Puppet Ashes 5 You must have given Seluvis's Potion to Dung Eater

Note: If Seluvis has died due to progress in Ranni's questline, it is still possible to purchase from this shop. Simply return to his dead body and a prompt will appear.
Note 2: Alternatively, Dolores's Puppet Ashes will drop from Pidia if the potion is given to Dung Eater, however you will not get Nepheli's Puppet Ashes from Pidia by doing so. (Nepheli's Puppet Ashes are not purchasable in the shop.)

Dialogue in Elden Ring: Preceptor Seluvis

Introduction:

  • I see... You must be Ranni's new hireling.
    Yes, yes, I've heard all about you.
    I am Seluvis, preceptor in the sorcerous arts.
    I don't know what it is the mistress sees in a provincial Tarnished like you,
    but since we have the misfortune of serving the same Lady,
    I ask that you kindly try not to drag us all down with you.
  • I reside...in another tower, close by.
    Come and pay me a visit...
    Should you wish to be of actual service to Mistress Ranni.
    If it were up to me, I wouldn't waste my time on the likes of you.
    But who am I to stand against the wishes of my Lady?

Visit:

  • Well, well. You took me at my word.
    Did you not realise I was merely being polite? You provincials never cease to amaze...
    Hmm, I suppose you're here now.
    Perhaps I'll give you something to do.
    I'd like you to find a woman called Nepheli, to administer a potion.
    Even you can do that much, can't you?

    [Accept the task]
    Good, good.
    Now I shall hand over the potion in question.
    [Receives Seluvis's Potion]
    Find Nepheli, and ensure she drinks it.
    I except glad tidings. And soon.

About Nokron:

  • Well, well. You're asking me about that, are you?
    The task was left to you and the mongrel, was it not?
    Not only are you incompetent, but shameless to boot.
    Well...there's no helping it.
    Now's as good a time as any. I'll let you in on it.
    There's a glintstone sorcerer by the name of Sellen in Limgrave.
    She owes me for the help I gave her when she was expelled from the academy.
    I asked her to look into the matter some time ago.
    I'll write you a letter of introduction. Go ask her.

    [Gives Seluvis's Introduction]

After giving someone Seluvis's Potion:

  • Ahh, so you made Nepheli drink the potion?
    Well done. You are a touch more useful than I had thought.
    Very well. Then you shall have your gift.
    Knowledge of the sorcerous arts, under the tutelage of the great Preceptor Seluvis.
    I doubt much of it will lay within the grasp of a mere Tarnished, but...
    If you put your mind to it, perhaps you won't embarrass our Lady.
  • You wish to begin right this moment?
    Well, your impatience, though boorish, is understandable. Let's have at it.

Hand over the scroll:

  • Hmm. Is that a scroll?
    I won't bother to ask where you pilfered it, but...
    You're correct to assume I'm one of the few who can decipher it.
    So, I'm perfectly happy to take it off your hands.
    That said, don't you dare get your hopes up.
    More often than not, new knowledge is merely an opportunity to reflect...
    ...upon the mediocrity of one's intellect.

About Nepheli:

  • So, you had Nepheli drink the potion? Truly?
    Hmm. Then perhaps something was amiss with it.
    It's concocted from the finest ingredients. But perhaps I should review the recipe.
    I may have expected too much of her, to begin with.

About your chambers:

  • You break into a man's private chambers, rooting about as you please?
    Your oafishness knows no bounds.
    Fine and well.
    You tricked Nepheli, and had her drink the potion.
    I believe that makes you my accomplice.
    You yearn for a puppet of your own, hmm?
    Well, normally one of your stature would never be allowed.
    But perhaps I can make a very special exception.
    Now, choose.

    [Offers choice between Finger Maiden Therolina Puppet and Jarwight Puppet]
  • (Upon returning) How's the puppet I gave you? A thing of exquisite craft, is it not?

I want a new puppet (after accepting the free puppet and finding more Starlight Shards):

  • What's that? You want another puppet?
    Quite the keen paramour, aren't we.
    But, I'm afraid each and every one is like a child to me.
    I can hardly just give them away.
    Oh dear, what's to be done?
    Why don't you...fetch me some starlight shards?
    If you can manage it, I'll gladly prepare a new puppet for you.
    The soul of every puppet has its own ambience. You'll soon come to know, once you possess a few.
    And once each's predilections are known to you, the better you'll be able to love them.
    Oh yes, you have much to look forward to, further down this road.

    [Opens puppet shop]

After purchasing another puppet:

  • You're proving to be quite the puppeteer.
    I've not had an apprentice for...a very long time indeed.

About the scheme:

  • Perhaps, you'd be interested in a little scheme of mine?
    It will produce the finest of puppets.
    Which I aspire to cherish with these very hands.
    A ploy to fool even Lady Ranni... How does that sound?
  • [I'm interested] Ahh, I knew I had you pegged.
    You're just like me.
    Then I'd like you to procure something.
    A rather unique starlight shard that glistens with amber.
    With that, my special draught will gleam with nectar-sweetness.
    And even a demigod would be slave to its charms...
  • [I'm not interested] Very good. A wise choice, indeed. You passed my little test with flying colours. I was merely gauging your loyalty to Lady Ranni. Well done, I'm very proud of you. Let's both do our utmost in service of our Lady. 
  • [Returning to hear more about the scheme] Ah ha. Might you be interested after all? In a fine scheme to sport with Lady Ranni? 

About Amber Starlight:

  • Procure it for me.
    The rather unique starlight shard that glistens with amber.
    With that, my special draught will gleam with nectar-sweetness.
    And even a demigod would be slave to its charms...

Give Amber Starlight:

  • Well, well, you managed to lay your hands on it!
    The blessed day is finally upon us...
    Goodness gracious, the way it glistens...utterly enchanting.
    To think, this was once a demigod's very fate...
    My oh my oh my....
  • Ah, are you still here?
    Oh yes, I should give you your reward.
    Please, it's all yours. Splendid work. Just marvelous.
    [Gives Magic Scorpion Charm]
  • Now, just you wait. The merriment is soon to begin.
    The scheme I promised is to be revealed very shortly...
  • (Talk again without reloading the area) You'll be flabbergasted, I can assure you.
    The secret* I promised is to be revealed very shortly...
    *He says "The secret" here, yet the subtitles repeat "The scheme" as in the previous line.

Returning to Seluvis:

  • Good, I've been waiting for you.
    It's finally complete. The perfection of my draught, gleaming nectar-sweet.
    Give it to Ranni and ensure she drinks it.
    [Gives Amber Draught]
  • The dead-eyed doll lets down her guard in your presence, rather remarkably.
    Though she might dip her hands in the dirt, and feign that icy persona...she's a frail, gentle girl at heart.

About the draught:

  • You...understand, don't you?
    That once you have Ranni drink my draught, my scheme will come to fruition.
    And we, well, we'll be in a position to claim the very finest puppet ever crafted.
    Just imagine...the pure elation...

When attacked:

  • Agh! Enough of that, now. Have you forgotten that we both serve the same Lady?
  • You incorrigible lout. Don't you dare waltz back here again.

Other:

  • I have no time for idle chit chat. The only thing I will hear from you is a report of your task's completion. Are we understood? Then off you trot.
  • Begging for another lesson so soon? There remains much to be done. Make it quick.

 

Preceptor Seluvis Notes & Trivia

  • Gideon and Seluvis seem to have a long-standing hatred, if not rivalry, for each other.
  • In between Ranni's Rise and Renna's Rise, you'll see a ruined building and a set of stairs that go down hidden by an illusory floor, protected by a Noble Sorcerer who is otherwise invisible unless close by.
    • There are many doll-like figures around the basement, with a message saying "Seluvis's puppet. Do not touch." in the corner by a man with a jar for a head. A rather eerie thing to note is that puppets' eyes are following player's movements. The bodies of a Perfumer and an Omenkiller are also present, despite none of them being obtainable as puppets.
      • After giving his potion to either Gideon, Nepehli, or Dung Eater, speaking to Seluvis about his basement will become available, in which he will give you access to one free Spirit Ash summon, with the other two available for purchase later.
        • One of the ashes is only available if you give the potion to the Dung Eater or Nepheli, rather than letting Gideon dispose of it. (?)
    • A puppet of Sellen and Nepheli (if you give her the potion) can be found behind another illusory wall in the back of the cellar.
    • Upon receiving Dolores as a puppet, it is discovered that Gideon and Seluvis were both in the Roundtable together, with Dolores. It is also noted that the two stopped talking because of her, implying a potential love triangle of sorts.
      • The fact you receive Dolores only after giving Nepheli, Gideon's daughter, the potion and later find her as a doll also implies that Seluvis may have grown tired of Dolores as a puppet. It's possible he sought Gideon's adoptive daughter as a replacement.

 

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    • Anonymous

      Seems like you have to interact with the message in his chambers to get the dialogue option confronting him about it.

      • Anonymous

        "go acquire another Starlight Shard, or drop one from your inventory and pick it up again". Found out the hard way that discard is not drop.

        • Anonymous

          He wouldn't sell puppets to me after gifting me the first one. After following the directions listed on the wiki failed to open the shop, I turned to Reddit. Found a tip that waiting three days either in game time, or by a grace, would open the shop. Tested each day one by one by waiting at a grace, and surprisingly, after three days, it worked! Seluvis will now sell puppets to me.

          I don't know of any other quests, or mechanics, that involve a day/night cycle rotation.

          • Anonymous

            You can obtain both puppets by going to Pidia after giving Ranni the fingerslayer blade. He is going to be killed by the guards and drop the dolores puppet

            • Anonymous

              Fun fact: Selluvis is a puppet himself, controlled by Pidia. When he "dies" at the same time as Pidia is tore limb from limb by his own puppets (likely controlled by Ranni) he falls down in the same position as the idle puppets of his room, meaning Pidia was the one controlling him all along.

              • Anonymous

                I'm almost positive that leaving this quest imcompleted (waiting on Finding Dung), it is also causing nepheli's quest to be froze at the part where she says them owl ashes smell good

                • Anonymous

                  Make sure to talk to him again after getting the potion for Nepheli if you want to continue Sellen's quest to get the legendary spells.

                  • Anonymous

                    Gideon offers to 'get one over on Seluvis' but then he says he'll dispose of the potion :(
                    I wish he'd help us use it on Seluvis instead. I would have liked to have him as a Spirit summon.

                    • Anonymous

                      I had a dream last night that you'd find Seluvis in the valiant gargoyles arena, and after killing him he'd drop a IWI Tavor assault rifle

                      • Anonymous

                        QUestion:
                        If Dungeater was on the chair, and I give him Seluvis potion, and then I kill dungeater, can I still get him as doll in this cycle? Someone said this was possible, but it didn't seem to work

                        • Anonymous

                          Seluvis is like straid of Ophalis if straid was stripped of his comically entertaining characteristics that make him loveable.

                          • Anonymous

                            I gave the potion to dung eater when he sits in his chair in the cell and asks for seedbed curses. Seluvis said.. So u gave the potion to dung eater.. I dont get it...

                            • Anonymous

                              Between Seluvis and Dung Eater, I think Seluvis is ultimately the most horrible and disgusting character in the game. Dung Eater at least does what he does because of some deluded sense of duty toward his grand purpose, as he thinks it, plus he's definitely lost most of his mind.

                              Seluvis on the other hand is pure, petty malice. He turns people into his personal puppets, that he does what he wants with, only for his own personal pleasure. He is an egotistical, self serving, arrogant scumbag. Not only that, he is completely sane and ok with everything he does. Honestly, Seluvis disgusts me far more than Dung Eater.

                              • Anonymous

                                In my opinion, the absolute scummiest character in all the Soulsborne games. Finished his questline out of morbid curiosity, and certainly felt uncomfortable about the whole thing.

                                I know people bring up Ranni's 'plot armor' but I have an idea why Seluvis' grand scheme failed: Ranni is the only one of the Shardbearers that is not a living being. Her physical flesh is gone, replaced with the doll her spirit inhabits. And dolls typically don't react to drinking anything, let alone mind wiping substances.

                                If he was able to apply the potion to any other Shardbearer it's likely his grand plan to make one a puppet would have been successful, but in his...desires he chose the only one that was already, in a way, a puppet.

                                Ranni probably already knew about Selevus' 'hobby', but probably didn't think he'd go that far, or the Tarnished would agree to go with it. And in the end, he (and the Tarnished, maybe) get what he properly deserves.

                                • Anonymous

                                  I’ve always wondered what a fight against Seluvis would be like. His mask/hat gives an arcane boost, so what spells or weapons would he utilize? Considering his appearance he’s a mage ( I know, mind-blowned). Any thoughts or fun guesses?

                                  • Anonymous

                                    You know he's a grade A pos when even Gideon (you know, the old jerkass who only cares about learning everything and disowns his own adopted daughter for refusing to slaughter a village full of innocents, and is generally a self centered douchebag who is an ahole to pretty much everyone) is disgusted by him and thinks he is insufferably full of himself and is willing to help you screw him over.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      "Note 2: Alternatively, Dolores's Puppet Ashes will drop from Pidia if the potion is given to Dung Eater, however you will not get Nepheli's Puppet Ashes from Pidia by doing so. (Nepheli's Puppet Ashes are not purchasable in the shop.)"

                                      This is wrong - Dolores' Puppet Ashes will drop from Pidia at the end of the quest, regardless if the potion is given to either Gideon or Dung Eater, but not Nepheli (aka it's a free drop from Pidia unless the potion is given to Nepheli).

                                      • Anonymous

                                        If you refuse to help make Ranni a puppet then come back and ask about the scheme then refuse again he will say
                                        “Alright, enough of these games. Your test is well and truly over. Wag your tail for master all you like but your loyalty is merely blind. I fear your wretched provinciality is apt to burst. You’re oozing at the seams.”

                                        • Anonymous

                                          So why does Ranni kill him? I thougt she already WAS in a doll' s body - her original one is gone. And then - even further - she turns into a LITTLE DOLL. I don' t get the story of this game.

                                          • Anonymous

                                            [spoilers for an aspect of Ranni's questline]

                                            I find it weird that people say Selvy'd succeeded without Ranni's "plot armor "

                                            It's weird because the option of allowing Gideon to dispose of Selvus' potion rather than delivering it to its intended victim. Now, Gideon's a callous and manipulative bastard, but when he says that Selvus' won't notice because he's too busy looking up his own arsehole (paraphrasing), he's proven to be 100% correct.

                                            Granted, Selvy's potion *does* work if used as intended, however the interaction with Gideon suggests that Selvy's knowledge is vastly outweighed by his ego (as if his dialog didn't already tip you off). So, is it really that surprising when his super-draught fails to work on Ranni?

                                            I mean, sure it's got the proper god juice and everything...but it's a *draught* and Ranni is a *doll*. How's she even supposed to digest it!?

                                            Maybe the "plot armor" bit comes from her instantly knowing what it is you're offering but...come on. Selvus hides his true nature about as well as a tiger hides its stripes (probably kept h around because it's not like Ranni's shown to be adverse to... underhanded machinations, so long as they suit her purpose)

                                            • Anonymous

                                              Of course he drugs his women. That insufferable personality and inferior strength isn’t going to get him any chicks.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                This creep seems like he would say "Bussy" unironically, god even saying that word makes me feel disgusting.

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  They should have allowed you to give the potion to ranni proper...instead of the bullshite Mary Sue plot armor

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    Dies if you proceed far enough in the quest line? That’s good, because I was planning on killing him at the cost of said quest

                                                    • Anonymous

                                                      First and foremost... Seluvis is one of the most strange and intriguing characters in the game and most interesting if I may say so myself. His' story arch could have been much bigger and let my wall of text explain.

                                                      Lets start with Seluvis of course. Seluvis is a cunning mastermind who's goal is to make Ranni a puppet, with other words poison her. This doesn't seem like much, but Ranni is a demi-god and part of the Royal Carian family who Seluvis clearly despises. This can be further proven by his' outfit "Worn by the magic preceptors who served the Carian royals." which means they don't do serve the carians anymore, but yet Seluvis tries to pretend he does serve Ranni (a carian royal), but quickly following down his' questline you know this is not true.

                                                      If you talk to Seluvis and do his' questline he will eventually mention he had an apprentice. Many think it is Pidia or that Pidia is actually Seluvis but I don't think so.
                                                      Sellen is Seluvis' apprentice.

                                                      We can see this when trying to find Nokron by asking Seluvis where it is, Seluvis will proceed to tell you about Sellen by giving you a paper of instructions. This indicates she works for him and that he knows where she is and what she is working on.
                                                      She seems to not like him, but she has something in common with him, they can both destroy the Carian Family and that's why she keeps working for him and she has been working on how to find Nokron for Seluvis for quite some time.

                                                      This is when she tells you about Radahn and that he needs to die for the primeval current to continue (A Carian Royal Family). Despite Seluvis in the game not knowing since you can't tell him, he have sent one of his' puppets, a fingermaiden. Which shows he knows more than he lets you on.

                                                      Sellen's task is not to get a Demi-god as a puppet like Seluvis wants, no she wants to restore the primeval current but by getting Ranni as a puppet she can easily take over the academy to restore it and that's where their goals is shared. Here's the problem though, Sellen is imprisoned by no other than a "Carian Knight", Jerren. By this point you have freed her of imprisonment and he has no idea.
                                                      But Jerren is no fool. He tracks her down to Renala where you have to choose between Jerren or Sellen, The Royal Carians or Primeval Current.

                                                      While Jerren's title is "Witch-Hunter Jerren" he tells us after killing Sellen in her questline that he's friends with Iji and he hopes to see you again in the future and if you infact get his' armor it says he used to be a nomad but after being a guest for a long time at the Carian royals and that he eventually made an oath bound to Radahn, Ranni's Brother. So he's not a true carian knight, but in the end he serves them and that's why he's trying to kill Sellen, because she threatens the Carian Family.

                                                      Should you choose Sellen you will succeed in restoring the primeval current... or that's what you think. She will become a ball and fail.
                                                      Should you help Seluvis, he will disappear/die and his' plan will fail.

                                                      So my point is without Ranni's plot armor. Seluvis would have succeeded and perhaps Sellen would have restored the primeval current again which would have meant Rennala would have stepped down OR would have been assassinated.
                                                      In the end Seluvis is a master scheming assassin who I believe survived. While Sellen, his' apprentice died/Balled, in an event of trying to bring down the Royal Carian Family, he failed and fled.

                                                      This is why I think Seluvis is the most interesting character, because if Ranni wasn't one of the protagnists of the game, he would have succeeded, but perhaps his' arrogance got to him. Anyways thanks for reading if you did, you have no idea how long time it took to write this and fact check all of it and if you do agree/disagree please write it down for me so I know :).














                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        “Upon receiving Dolores as a puppet, it is discovered that Gideon and Seluvis were both in the Roundtable together, with Dolores. It is also noted that the two stopped talking because of her, implying a potential love triangle of sorts.”

                                                        Is it implying that though? Dolores was Gideon’s explicit friend, and now she’s a puppet. If somebody turned your friend into a puppet would you not break ties with them? I see absolutely no reason to assume any manner of “love triangle” involvement.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          You don’t have to buy all his spells to continue the plot, tested today with a single spell bought he talks about the scheme after buying a puppet ( after the one he gives you for free)

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            You don't have to buy any spell from him to continue his plot, I only bought the second puppet (Dung Eater) and the dialogue appeared.

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              I love that when I search for him it autocorrects to delicious and the wiki still shows seluvis as the first option

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                Concerning the lore... It's obvious that puppets/spirit ashes are known to many sorcerers and the "science" around it can be applied by multiple people. Seluvis is simply a preceptor who is very knowledgeable and commands his own puppets. Pidia however, is just the master/custodian of the puppets/soldiers protecting Caria Manor. Sellen and Rannis quests both reference becoming puppets by their own will. When Ranni realized Seluvis plot against her, she had him "puppetified" as a punishment

                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                  It makes most sense to me that Ranni simply was the one in control of Seluvis's continued existence and therefore Pidia's by extension, as he zombifies in either timeline when she ****s off to become a hotglue figurine or if you try to give her the amber draught and she presumably pieces together that you and Seluvis conspired against her. In both cases his soul dies as a result of her leaving, causing poor ol' Pidia to get beaten to death by some angry and very ugly sex dolls. Why Ranni kept him around for so long is the real question, she's not an idiot and clearly didn't trust him as she appears able and willing to cut him off at any given moment. The most obvious first connection there being her doll body and his mastery of puppets, but how that works out or even if that's a connection at all I don't know. He clearly contributed something but only ever seems to be working on his own **** by the time we swoop in.

                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                    You don’t have to buy all his spells to unlock his quest line to betray ranni, I only bought a puppet and one spell and it triggered

                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                      As someone mentioned earlier, (evidenced by the nature of his death) I think Seluvis is a puppet as well! - a somehow sentient autonomous one created by Pida to carry out tasks he cannot since he is a crippled Albanuric. Ranni is a puppet of her own spirit and creation so it isn’t impossible to imagine. As naive as she may be for a “young” empyrean, she did seem to be aware that he was scum.

                                                                      The only thing that doesn't make sense is how Pitiful Pidia is. I would expect the one pulling the strings (pun intended) to be a miniboss at least. Not to whine while getting ganked by the earliest mobs in the game. Someone like Gideon perhaps.

                                                                      Maybe the real culprit here is the 3 fingers again, but they seem to be **** at planning things and just resort to sending a ton of assassins at the end as a last ditch effort. As bottom feeder as Pidia may be, maybe the fingers saw him as one of the few manipulatable entities capable of creating a puppet to house Seluvis, one of the many tools planned to observe/get rid of Ranni. Maybe they just dropped a hint in his bedchambers one day and the rest is history.

                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                        "Quite the keen paramour, aren't we."

                                                                        'Paramour' = 'a lover, especially the illicit partner of a married person'.

                                                                        Yeah, that bed in his hidden chamber is for exactly what it looks like.

                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                          so if you try to kill him before reseting the area after you give ranni the finger slayer blade you will lock your self out of her quest so dont do it

                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                            His dialogue when you refuse to help him is funny” I can feel my wits evaporating In your presence” Lmao.

                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                              How do you get Selvious to give you the letter for Sellen. I did this on my very first playthrough but have never been able to so Sellens quest since

                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                im not saying Seluvis had sex with his Sellen puppet, but its kind of strange he has a life-sized replica of her in the bedroom of his hidden dungeon

                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                  hmm I been trying to play without reading guides this is what happened: I found radam, killed him, then found Ranni and seluvis. gave the potion to gideon... found the whole in limgrave and went in and got the item for ranni and gave it to her. Then I found renala and won that.then been walking around and found the astel natural boy but havent beat him. and last night I remembered I had the doll on me lol and talked to her.

                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                    I like how everyone’s filthy mind projects that he must be screwing the puppets because there’s a small bed lol. The dolly botherer’s basement is just a doll house for his collection of corpses. The freak probably just brushes their hair and has tea parties with his favorite corpse slave.

                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                      I really like this character. Good VA, interesting design and he's very well written. He give off a creepy pervert vibe so naturally, it never feels too forced. I also find it funny that finishing his quest not only gets him killed (standard souls game quest ending) but you die as well!

                                                                                      • Notice that the pose he's in when he "dies" mimics the pose of many of his puppets. Plus it seems odd that he would spontaneously die like that because Ranni left. Wondering if he tried one of his own roofies and got turned into a puppet.

                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                          I’m having an issue in NG+. I found the puppet chamber and bought all his spells. I tried buying the puppets (which I already have from my previous play through) and as soon as I tried to buy one, some message briefly flashed saying I couldn’t have more in my inventory or something, and then the puppet shop disappeared and I can no longer access it. His quest will not advance further.

                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                            dolores the sleeping puppet - I honestly don't recall the sequence of events, but I got this puppet from seluvis, after his 'death' and I gave the potion to Gideon. So I think the "must give the potion to nepheli" req is incorrect.

                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                              If Pidia actually is Seluvis, that might explain Gideon's actions in the Village of the Albinaurics. Perhaps it was some sort of revenge for turning Dolores into a ... Regardless, it's astounding that this guy manages to make you feel sorry for Gideon of all people.

                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                Does this guy have a crush on Sellen or something? He has a complete puppet of her in a secret room with a bed next to it which creates a rather unsettling implication.

                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                  On the theory concerning Pidia being Seluvis, I have some opinions to share.

                                                                                                  I feel that there are far too many contradictory pieces of evidence when it comes to Pidia being Seluvis, there are alibies, and of course the prominence of Seluvis's individuality. Ranni treated Seluvis as a loyal servant, Gideon recognized him as a puppeteer and former colleague, and others who have worked intimately with Seluvis had not noticed any discrepancies in his personality, which would have at some point become apparent to any one of them. Especially with Pidia being as unstable as he is, there are bound to be slip ups.

                                                                                                  What I propose is that Seluvis and Pidia may have had a Frankenstein / Igor relationship, with Pidia playing the part of "mortician" in a sense, preparing the bodies for use. I believe this may be why you are not immediately given the puppets after administering Seluvis's draught. Something more needs to be done for them to be fully functioning puppets capable of heeding commands and summons. This would also explain why Pidia has the Napheli ashes in his possession upon his death. He was "preparing" her to to be utilized as a puppet. This is corroborated by the fact that Pidia himself says he is "charged" with maintaining the dolls. Clearly Seluvis had ordered Pidia to maintain their forms, perhaps Pidia had some sort of expertise in this matter that rendered him useful to Seluvis.

                                                                                                  And knowing Seluvis's modus operandi, he is clearly the dominating figure between the two, having abused / scared Pidia witless into doing his bidding. Another thing to note: only a few of the puppets surrounding Pidia had physically assaulted him, all of them being Cuckoo Knights. This could suggest that Seluvis had them planted there specifically to guard Pidia and eliminate him should anything compromise Seluvis's scheme. This would allow Seluvis to tie up loose ends, and ensure that there was no trail to follow in the event that he desired to hide himself.

                                                                                                  Seluvis was also notably clever, having aided Sellen when she was expelled from the academy, creating a puppet for her and teaching her how to transfer her own consciousness from one body to another, effectively allowing her to evade those hunting her as she pursued her studies. A man such as Seluvis would surely have a failsafe of his own, and would never put his host body in jeopardy in the event that something should befall him. He knew that he had potential enemies everywhere, even Blaidd teased the idea of killing him and was tasked by the Two Fingers to relentlessly pursue anyone who threatens Ranni's life. This is why the Seluvis that is "killed" by Ranni, is merely a puppet. Where his host body actually resides is unknown, and will likely stay that way. Seluvis, like Sellen, will continue to pursue his studies in secret far from Ranni's gaze now that she is wise to his treachery.

                                                                                                  One other thing to note concerning Ranni is that while she is immensely powerful, she does bear the characteristics of a young girl / princess. She can be quite proud and naïve at times, which we can see during your interaction with her doll and her disbelief that you saw through her guise. It is also evident in her deep familial relationship / trust with her hirelings, which is what I believe allows Seluvis to get away with much of his scheming and general nefariousness for so long.

                                                                                                  So to sum it up, I personally feel this is the most likely of scenarios. There are far too many holes in the Pidia = Seluvis theory, some that are even lore-bending. But that is simply my take, at the end of the day this is all left to our interpretation, but hopefully my perspective may help shed some light on the totally convoluted rabbit hole that is Seluvis's questline. Lol.

                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                    Do we really have to listen to this this ass insult us while explaining our task, I wish the tarnished could tell him to shut up or we punch him in his lil ***** mouth.

                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                      Is it possible that you can no longer get the spirit ashes after you try to kill the dung eater?
                                                                                                      I gave him the potion, waited for around 20 seconds and killed him. Then I got the armor as was mentioned, but when I returned to seluvius he asked if I really have her the potion, and said something other I can't remember.
                                                                                                      And now there is neither a conversation option about puppets, nor about spirit ashes.
                                                                                                      Oh well, new game it is :/

                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                        When you try to kill him when you first meet him (before asking about Nokron and disposing of his potion), he will teleport away, Ranni will disappear and Blaidd will become hostile. You can revert this by seeking forgiveness at the Church of Vows, which will respawn Seluvis and make Blaidd friendly again. I guess it's because he still has some vital information on how to reach Nokron. Probably just have to progress further through the questline until you can get rid of this clown without any repercussions.

                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                          One of if not the most disturbing a****** in all of the souls series (only 2nd the dung eater). We are literally helping him roofie Gideons adoptive daughter so he can do God knows what to her unresponsive body. Hell, he even wanted us to roofie Ronnie too. If this doesn’t convence you that this guys a pedophile I don’t know what will.

                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                            It is not necessary to purchase all of Seluvis's sorceries to advance his quest, you only need the 2nd puppet

                                                                                                            • Anonymous

                                                                                                              It is not necessary to purchase all of Seluvis's sorceries to advance his quest, you only need the 2nd puppet

                                                                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                                                                After seeing his death pose, I think that seluvis himself is a puppet, which gives a new spin on him being eager to turn everyone around him to the same beings as himself, making him not just a puppet, but a puppeteer, which kinda goes together with his title being preceptor (from what I understand, it means teacher or instructor, which would make Seluvis a teacher of puppets)

                                                                                                                Also sorcerers of all kinds made marionettes as their minions, so Seluvis being a marionette that wanted to be a real boy with his own puppet army seems very believable.

                                                                                                                Also consider Pidia. Could be Seluvis's former master. Fits too, knowing that Pidia meets his end being killed by his own puppets.

                                                                                                                It's just Seluvis flew a bit too close to the sun, trying to take control over the demigod puppet.

                                                                                                                • Anonymous

                                                                                                                  for some reason he wont appear in rannis rise - i cant also exit the tower because ranni tells me to talk to him...

                                                                                                                  • Anonymous

                                                                                                                    There's perfumers in this game that harvest organ to make special potions, a guy that curses souls for eternity by consuming their anogenital area, and the literal manifestation of chaos that drives peoole crazy by melting their eyeballs. Yet somehow Seluvis ended up being hated more than all of them together. Good job, Seluvis!

                                                                                                                    • Anonymous

                                                                                                                      There's perfumers in this game that harvest organ to make special potions, a guy that curses souls for eternity by consuming their anogenital area, and the literal manifestation of chaos that drives peoole crazy by melting their eyeballs. Yet somehow Seluvis ended up being hated more than all of them together. Good job, Seluvis!

                                                                                                                      • Anonymous

                                                                                                                        There's perfumers in this game that harvest organ to make special potions, a guy that curses souls for eternity by consuming their anogenital area, and the literal manifestation of chaos that drives peoole crazy by melting their eyeballs. Yet somehow Seluvis ended up being hated more than all of them together. Good job, Seluvis!

                                                                                                                        • Anonymous

                                                                                                                          If you enjoy drugging nepheli for his quest or not is how to find out if you’re good or if you are just terrible as a person.

                                                                                                                          • Anonymous

                                                                                                                            Just finish his quest, I only got the free puppet & buy dung eater puppet and he give "the scheme" dialogue and trigger the quest, no need to buy the other puppet

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