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By Nigerian's might, why make this the only legendary armament that is missable? From where does FromSoftware get these game design philosophies.

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I can't fathom who in their right mind decided that lightning damage should be split between dex and faith in this game, I mean they made the top level bestial incantation have a mere 15 faith requirment and gave it a seal that scaled well with strength but didn't make the dragon cult seal scale with dex at all and the most basic of dragon cult incantations requires 15 faith with that scaling all the way up to 47, but then lighning damage on weapons and with AoWs scales off dex so to actually use a lightning weapon with lightning incantations you need 40 dex and 40 faith but to make a strength build with bestial incantations at the same level you could happily do 65 strenght and 15 faith with much better scaling on both your weapon and your incantations, they had a template there to make lightning builds great but instead chose to screw us over like they always do.

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WHY IS FAITH NOT A REQUIREMENT HERE???? RED LIGHTING IS LOCKED BEHIND FAITH MANNNN

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Kinda wierd that a skill this good for pve is so bad in pvp. Most of the time it just goes through them in close-range, and no one is getting hit by this at medium to long range. in a duel its basically only good for punishing slow attacks.

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Ppl is fixated so much in it's weapon skill that it forgets it's one of the best spears out there regardless of it. 2nd longest reach, absurd damage, guard boost comparable to halberds, medium weight... seriously, if you only use it for the weapon skill then you're missing a lot.

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I greatly dislike you can’t get this in ashen capital… wtf

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Why isn't this a faith weapon?
Why the **** is this a dex weapon?

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Can someone drop me this please? It's the last legendary weapon that I need and I already killed Maliketh I wandered for 20 hours searching the last weapon only to find out it's this and I can't get it anymore

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Nothing reveals Fromsoft's contempt for faith builds than making lightning weapons/AoWs dexterity-based instead of faith based. Can't have fun, noooooo. That's for arcane and intelligence builds only.

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When you see this in invasions you know full damn well they are only going to press L2 until they are out of fp. At least it is easy to dodge

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What will u choose

1.bolt of gransax
2.moonveil

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This should have some faith scaling too

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Im still pretty new to ER, how to i get better attribute scaling? I have 45 Dex and 37 strength

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Petition for Miyazaki to rename this weapon Railgungnir.

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why does it not scale with faith when dragonbolts are faith based???????? you can't even infuse it to make it scale with it!!

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I love needing to waste 8.5 pounds of my equip load and a **** ton of str and dex to be able to use the better lightning spear, which has no incant or fth variant and is stuck to a slow pokey chunk of metal.

“From is catering to fth too much!” Okay so why does holy suck and have like three spells that deal holy damage while the only other viable type is fire cus it actually gets fth scaling weapons? Lightning in this game objectively is not well designed, because you either go semi-lightning or split your stats and lose stat synergy cus dex has minimal cast speed improvement but zero damage for incants and fth has zero effect on the weapons used by the cult that worships lightning which is literally imbued with gold and comes from the elden ring itself. ****, even str got to have an actual tangible impact on spell damage via clawmark seal, yet the lightning seal, the type half of elden ring insists has some arbitrary tie to dexterity, has zero dex scaling. So does lightning have nothing to do with faith or everything? Make up your mind, holy ****.

Such a good ash of war, but seriously, lightning in this game is confused as hell and needs to figure out what the hell its doing

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Artoria Lancer Rhongominyad Spear!

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The "Oh No! I fear Rick, Soldier of God and don't want to fight him up close" weapon.

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If you get one shot by the Ash of War, than imagine Gransax throwing that ancient lightning spear thats bigger than Rykard at you. I don't think Great lightning Barrier can save you from that.

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"Boss get down! The enemy sniper... Stay low and crawl along the ground, that should enable you to sneak past enemies."

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this is more so about the character but it seems that gransax attacked the capital, mimicking placidusax's power of that particular type of bolt. maybe gransax pretended to be the dragon king while placidusax was still in stasis, waiting for his god.

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Nah imagine fighting prime gransax who holds the REAL scale bolt :/, naked pothead rolling and r1 spam will be the canon reason this beast was taken down.

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Closest thing we have to a Barret M82 in a Fromsoft game

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Does the ash of war scale with faith?

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I appreciate that Fromsoft finally made a weapon so big that they had to explain why it's scaled down to player size when you get your hands on it. This isn't even the spear this is an exact replica at 1/100 scale chiseled from the spear.

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For those who missed the bolt, there’s always NG+

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Elden Rings 50cal.

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So THIS is where Elden Ring's Sunlight Spear spell is hidden.

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very good

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snipin's a good job mate

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back in my day you would've gotten this by severing placidusax's tail

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would've been awesome if you could get this before godfrey shade - he's weak to both lightning and pierce damage

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If you want a dex based character, this will be your strongest ranged attack, so even if you don't really want it as your main weapon, it's still very handy to have equipped.

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I was not able to get this, I missed out on it..... if someone would be willing to drop it for me? I have exgfas of someone items, or would be willing to farm or get an item for someone. Please let me know. My psn name is : DexySoulS Please message me on there, and let me know what I can do for you im exchange!!!

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how and why this doesnt scale with faith ?

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its the evangelion spear no wa y

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Probably one of the best looking weapons in the game.

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good weapon for dex build

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A true “bolt” action sniper

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anyone who possibly has an extra to drop me? im locked out from it :c

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does anyone have an extra to drop me im locked out from it :c

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getting all the legendary weapons for the achievement, this is the last on I need and I've already killed maliketh so I can't get it.




****.

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This doesn't scale with Faith for lore reasons. From the Ancient Dragonbolt Pot item description: "Allows one to wield ancient drake lightning regardless of faith. The residual power of relics is a purely natural phenomenon."

I also need to get this off my chest and I guess this as good a place as any. FromSoft doesn't put gameplay first when considering balance. I know you're not allowed to say you enjoy the writing online, but to the devs these games are role-playing games and thus narrative-driven experiences. Rememeber when they added miniscule Faith scaling to the Great Club? Pretty ridiculous decision on their part. That is until you consider what I just said. It's a branch of the Erdtree that is "imbued with holy power," thus Faith should strengthen it. This was so important to them that they went out of their way to adjust it.

So in the future whenever you find a certain weapon or spell useless, or its scaling weird, remember that the devs have different priorities than what you might expect.

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Had no idea that activating Ancient Lightning Spear skill right next to the glowing statues actually cracks them open (!!!) - The ones usually containing smithing stones which require you to lure a bigger enemy to them who would then crack them in half.

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So stupid that these lightning weapons are scaling with dex and not faith. Huge fail, Fromsoft!!

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Some people seem to not understand what is the difference between STR and DEX. DEX is not agility, a DEX scaling just means that the weapon is more refined and needs actual dexterity to be used, whereas a STR weapon needs just raw brutal force. A quality weapon, like a greatsword, usually needs both and it fits perfectly.

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Elon Musk used this weapon’s hit box to bore the one tunnel he did, then like all bolt of gransax users, gloated after and quit

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The hit box on this hit my neighbor while he was eating dinner

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So the Skill for this thing it's bugged as of patch 1.09, because it will always consume 24FP on use (charged or not) but you can actually cast it with only 12FP or more

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There are 2 types of BoG users: A brainless skill spammer and a man of culture who use it to kill casters or another spammers and put it back when the job is done.

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Destroyed the Godskin Duo with this

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My sin, my soul, bolt of gransax, my beloved

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20STR and 40DEX seriously

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Since dragons and ancient dragons are resistant to lightning, this could imply that Gransax killed his own kind. It makes sense, since Godwyn allied with some of them. Maybe he was even killing and cannibalizing his kind before the war, which could explain how he already had the bolt.

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I swear this thing has some hidden 'aggro' mechanics. Fighting birds with my summons in Caelid? They didn't care I was spamming the AoW, only focused my summon. Summoned to Godfrey as a finger? I could not peel him with the AoW no matter how close I stood. I'm starting to wonder if the AoW itself doesn't register as the same 'source' as other things my character does -- i.e. mobs were treating it like environmental damage or something?

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I don't understand why it's a dex weapon, From doesn't understand why it's a dex weapon. Hell even god doesn't understand why it's a dex weapon

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Why does a weapon associated with literally godzilla scale with dex

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I feel like this and lightning incantations should have arcane scaling, idk why

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“Bolt” action sniper rifle

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Really dont like spears but the weapon art is so sexy you actually start to like it..

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Dual weilding these and being part of a 3 man gank squad is a true combo

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Possibly my favorite weapon in the game and the reason I went from Faith to Dex/Faith

The AoW benefits from Lightning Scorpion Charm, Shard of Alexander, and Godfrey Icon because it's chargeable.

I have no input on PvP because I'm not interested in it, but if your power fantasy in this game is hurling lightning this, along with Keen affinity Thunderbolt, was way more fun IMO than pure Faith because you also have solid melee options as well.

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Why it doesn't have faith scaling?! I wanted to make a cool flashy lightning warrior build, but due to it being mainly DEX my lightning dmg feels lacking compared to previous build.

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With a summon and the right talismans once upgraded enough, this thing turns astel into an absolute joke. Lmao

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The sit at the end of colosseum and spam your -80% hp ash. It's even more silly because it's on spears. Let's just say nobody is using this un-powerstanced. Unfortunately, even if you're spatially aware enough to not die to this, your teammates won't be.

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Invader sniper rifle

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People with faith builds whining because only 99% of the flashy weapons in the game require faith and this one doesn't

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The ash of war on this is bit too costly for what you get from it, A +25 Keen Great Knife with Thunderbolt can outperform this on a FP/damage ratio and is much faster to perform and vastly cheaper stamina wise. For a Legendary Armament to be outperformed by a generic dagger in it's unique aspect is a bit of a let down. If this costed 20FP it would at least be competitive enough to be interchangeable but currently if your target doesn't suffer knockdown from the charged shots then just use a great knife and and find a high DPS offhand weapon to use with the now free 7 units of weight.

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everyone saying this thing is a dex weapon, when technically it has higher ar on a quality build, still definitely usable as a dex weapon but technically it is a quality weapon

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This weapon should scale with faith so stupid that it doesn’t

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I beat elden beast with this weapon!

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Bruh all the "what should I make sure to do before Maliketh?" advice I saw forgot about the Bolt of Gransax and now my dragonslayer summon build is incomplete.

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NG took me 3 hours rush to leyndell just to get this for the final trophy :)

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i like the funny spear it look cool :)

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The "I dont really wana chase a flying lizard for 6 min straight and die from a random breath of bs AoEs on my horse" spear.
Go go gadget dex sniper.

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Thy dexterity befits a crown!

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You use it in 2v2s or 3v3s - you're trash. No exceptions

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Highly recommended for average and below average players.
Probably the most OP weapon in PvE. Has a lot of potential in PvP as well. Late game, nothing can stand in your way.
I used it on the very first playthrough i ever did.
Chose it for the drip, kept it for the weapon art/skill.

That lightning bolt ability is what makes this spear the best weapon in my opinion. Very few enemies can dodge the bolt and it hits like a truck (can knockdown enemies off their feet).
You can keep your distance with the enemies and snipe them from range. Very helpful if you are not good at dodge roll timing. Most of the toughest mobs go down in 2 shots, once you are lvl 120+.

For talismans i used Radagon soreseal, carian filigreed crest, shard of Alexander. For the 4th use ancestral spirit horn (at lower levels) or Godfrey icon / lightning scorpion charm (late game when you have enough Flasks for FP)

Stats focus:
Primary - dex, vigor and mind.
Secondary - endurance and strength.

I used brass shield in off hand (with Ash of war : no skill) for guard counters when dealing with weak mobs if I don't want to waste FP on ability. Spear + shield = pokey pokey goodness.

P.S. For Majority of the players, Malenia is the toughest boss fight, but with this weapon, she is an absolute joke. She cannot dodge the bolt ability. Beat her on my very first try. Was like lvl 150 ish when I did.

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youre gonna see a lot of these in the arenas. its gonna be annoying

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Simply hilarious to watch people get absolutely vaporized by this thing Colosseums, including myself. It’s just the perfect weapon for such chaos among 6 or more people

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Hate that this needs 20 str. I'm running a pure dex/faith build (only invested a single point in str for the sole purpose of equipping Morgott's sword) and I'll need to use a physick just to be able to use this (or waste a talisman slot and 2-hand it). It requiring 20 str makes no sense

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Let's be honest, everyone uses this thing because of its AoW. If From added an upgraded version of lightning spear as it should no one would wield it.

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i guess it's a dex weapon because the lightning comes from the weapon rather than your magic?

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Is there a lore section for Gransax himself, seems like an interesting opportunity for great lore

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Oof missed this 1st time through any one have a spare? Or willing to lend for a few? On playstation

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Not a fan of spears but got-daym is that weapon art amazing! It's so good that I've been using this mainly as a sacred seal solely to cast Ancient Lightning Spear while using an actual seal in my off hand to cast Fortisaxx spear if any of the creeps get too close. As some other Anon said of Ancient Spear, "it's basically the delete button" lol.

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fockin hate thee high dexterity

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Put in enough levels, scorpion charm + godfrey icon, and there will be nothing left on your journey that cannot be solved with lightning bolt to the face.

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snoipin's a good job mate

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This is very nice on a faith/dex build when you're on your lightning spec.. I don't like pokey weps much so it's rdy to swap with a D pad input.. doesn't need faith scaling IMO because the DMG would be epicly busted. It still way our performs lightning spear for sniping (tested prior with capped faith) and that's good for me. Dex/faith and str/int (both oddball specs previously) got some love this game. I recommend giving them some play, very fun

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Biggest con to this weapon imo is that if you attack after your roll it swings upwards with a very small aoe

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The real big brains will use its weapon art randomly in the middle of other attacks to throw people off. Works 90% of 50% of the time!

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much harder to oneshot people now because of the tweaked pvp damage scaling.

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Impossible to hit anyone who's paying attention in pvp.

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Put Gransax in the game already!

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Bro, ain’t no way did he go kamikaze on a few houses just to start a war…

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i'd say its op but its telegraphed as hell and moonveil can still pump out more damage in a fraction of the time

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me like

y no faith scaling :(

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Legendary Armament Achievement Failed
I missed this one........ in the 1st Run

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Made a build an invasion build for this and changed my name to 50. CAL aimed at U this is probably the most fun I have had in invasions in a long time

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