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50 dex is the hard cap on damage scaling

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does the skill dmg scale of dexerity because it has no scaling for faith

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Does this have hyper armor?

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Why are you all so salty about this not being an incantation? I just want to ask, but did you just forget that silurias tree and mental illness rays (Frenzied Burst) exist? You could argue that silurias tree does pure holy damage and is scaling better with strength, BUT the way buffs in elden ring work works in favor of silurias tree. You need only 18 strength to two-hand it (half of 18 is 9, means 18 + 9 when two-handed = 27 strength = enough str to use silurias tree), and the skill scales with weapon level alone. Some may say: 18 strength is too much for a pure caster, with is sometimes true if you REALLY want that 80 faith, but you still have frenzied burst, with which it is almost impossible to proc madness to yourself and it deals UNREAL amounts of damage, so the madness status is just a nice addition for npcs and pvp. Most dex weapons are eiher bleed (dex-arcane) or weapons like dragon king's cragblade or hand of Malenia, which are good pics, but HOLY **** these are NEVER ever good enough to be on the same tier as blasphemous blade (btw also a faith weapon!!!) or dark moon greatsword. I'd say dex also needs a weapon that makes it worth leveling, which is the bolt and some other weapons. Yeah I AM a person that is using a pure dex build, but most weapons are just sub-optimal (Yeah Urumi and Raptor talons ARE op in pvp, but perform not that good in pve). It's my higher then average skill and my unhealthy high amount of hours of playtime, I'd say. I hope I was able to make you understand, have a great day, if you have questions about what I tried to explain, feel free to ask.

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For anyone curious, the Arrow's Reach Talisman does increase the range of this AoW, although not by much.

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My fav skill. First time I tried it, was like: "well the moveset is not that good, lemme try the skill...OH SH!T!" Felt like Zeus. Don't know what mfs down here be blabbering abt this and that. This. Is. Fun. ZAP

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Tested this and damage wise, im not impressed. It has an extremely slow startup animation which will get you killed, and the damage is not that big unless you are stacking every lightning buff you can get your hands on combined with godfrey's icon. In a test vs abductor virgins, chain casting thunderbolt actually did slightly more damage in roughly the same time and could quickly stance break the virgin, while ancient lightning spear was unable to stance break them.

It is true that this skill has more range than thunderbolt however and does a bigger first hit which allows you to one shot most regular enemies when fully charged, but its usually faster to just melee soldiers and such anyway.

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Woah, pure Lightning damage with pure Dex scaling? That's quite nice. I might have to do a dex build after all.

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Wish it stuck into the ground and exploded like a nuke when fully charged like how Placidusax uses it

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SMITE!

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Id kill for an incantation version of this, same animation and charging. This or radagon’s javelin, PLEASE from, where is my sunlight spear :(

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Sunlight spear but only scales with dex

This is not what papa Gwyn intended

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Just found out that the skill also scale with flocks cabvas talisman and it dors more damage with it than using soreseal

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Does anyone know how much poise damage it does?

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Super strong. The one i used to kill Malenia.

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Is there any reason to use any other skill over this? Huge range, nuke damage (currently hitting for about 3800+ with my current setup, and I could increase it if I wanted), knocks down, can't be avoided in pve, and it costs ridicously a low amount of fp.

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Are there any benefits using lightning spear incantation over this?

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Since weapon scales with Dex/Str is only Dex improving this skill or str also does something?

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Does this scale with STR?

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does the talisman raising lightning damage work with this?

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Hey guys. This is a DEX weapon lmao. For a DEX build. Not a FTH, not a DEX/FTH. DEX. If you want to get maximum output from this thing you should level, you guessed it, DEX.

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AKA: The Delete Button

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For a dedicated lightning build, this Skill does slightly less damage and costs slightly less mana than plain Lightning Spear. Once you acquire the Bolt of Gransax, this will functionally become your new long-range pelting ability.
Incidentally, you will be able to cast this four times on a full bar if you have 15 Mind. Its mana cost may be a fractional value that is slightly less than 24, which is incredibly odd.
— Courh the Explorer

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surface to air missile

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3000 DAMAGE INCOMING

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why not be faith/dex users so you can use this and your other faith stuff

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How come in my game it costs 24 fp to use the weapon art, but on here it says 25? I don’t have any talismans on that would reduce it. Just wondering.

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This has hyperarmor

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It should be an incantation with the same range, other aspects can be debated but faith do need a sniper spell that isn't madness. Maybe 30fp since spells does have advantage of requirement usually.

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Destroys in pve and pair it with cleanrot spear you will kill most normal enemies with one bolt and 2 normal attacks

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Outrageously overpowered in pvp. Yes, it can be dodged, the target has to dodge it perfectly every time while the user only has to land it once. Combine that with the fact that invaders only ever engage in unfair fights hiding behind field bosses or groups of tough enemies and you see how diffiicult that can be. Dodging one lightning bolt is easy - but dodging a lightning bot AND an ulcurated tree spirit or crucible knight at the same time is almost impossible.

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Does not scale with faith at all

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I didn’t know you could throw freight trains at people!

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Please REMOVE the FAITH SCALNG statement on Lightning damage. Wasted my 3 larval tears just to proof that:

Talisman: Alexander Shard + Godfrey Icon + Lightning Scorpion + Ritual Sword

Target: Banished Knight at Castle Sol (Bolt him from behind)

80 dex 80 faith 20 STR => 2780


99 STR 99 DEX 9 faith => 2848 (STR only improve physical damage on weapon not skill)


99 Dex 99 faith 20 STR => 2848 (0 scaling from faith & STR)


So far only known buffs for Lightning damage: Golden Vow and Lightning cracked tear physick

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Fun fact thunder bolt can be put on more weapons cost 40% mana is faster and has similar range. the only cost is less damage, but honestly what mob in this game is going to constantly give you enough time to effectively use ancient lighting.

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The fact that this isn't an Incantation or an Ash of War is a damn war crime to Faith users

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In patch 1.0.4 the FP cost was reduced from 35 to 25 and the animation was sped up a bit. Let the age of Lightning Yeet begin!

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Insane reach and damage when Fully Charged , many Talismans also go with this Legendary Weapon's Ashe of War... Icon of Godfrey , Filigreed FP , Shard of Alexander and Golden Vow... Sadly the damage and Scale is enhanced with Strength & Dex. ( Anywhere between 50-60 Dex with the Bolt of Gransax should deal atleast 2000-2500 at +10 Upgrade ). Definitely a really strong and really High Ranged Unique Skill... It also makes Lightning Spear dull in comparison , even tho as Incantation lol.

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Did extensive testing on this vs Godrick knights in front of Flail chest at weapon upgrades from 0 to +10 on NG.

Summary:
Observed about 100 damage increase on tap and 130 on charge per weapon level.
Scales ONLY with Dex stat, 5.5% to 6.5% ish increase by going from 40 (wep req) to 50.
Lightning buffs work properly and are multiplicative (20% from Physik, 10% when raining...).
Does not count as a charge attack for axe or spear talismans.

Damage Data No Multipliers:
Lv 40 dex 50 dex
0 324/465 342/489
1 415/597 439/629
2 512/731 542/769
3 613/860 649/903
4 715/985 756/1037
5 815/1114 861/1174
6 911/1246 963/1316
7 1009/1381 1068/1462
8 1108/1520 1176/1613
9 1210/1662 1287/1767
10 1315/1808 1400/1926

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Rip no upgraded lightning spear for faith

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Does the range on this get increased by arrow's reach?

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They uh... forget to enable spawning of the incantation version of this right?

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Can you still get it after defeating Malekith?

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I've been looking for this "incantation" for like two weeks now since I saw someone else use it and couldn't figure out what it was. Oh of course, it's attached to a weapon with no faith scaling and also requires 40 dex.

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This has to be coming as an incantation in a DLC. Hell or patch this one in as an incantation and give add a nerfed version as an ash of war.

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Has an extremely high FP cost relative to the damage but still better than half the incantations/sorceries in the game.

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Depressing. Fromsoft still making us pay for Dark Souls 2 and it's broken Sunlight Spear.

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at 60 Faith 70 Int and 60 Dex i was only hitting for 260ish with the ash of war which is horrible

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Does the ash of war atleast scale with faith

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Seriously wondering why this wasn't also made into an incantation. As it stands, Faith kind of lacks an endgame ranged spell like Sorceries have.

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Skill is better than 90% of spells in this game
It has more range, more damage, moves faster. its basically an upgraded lightning spear.
Makes a Faith caster sad

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Can anyone confirm if this does physical/lightning dmg, or just straight lightning dmg?

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i think this should stay as this weapon's art but also be an incantation

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Favorite weapon

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sunlight spear but evil karma

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FS literally should have just made this an incantation. >.>

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Why is this not an incantation? Like come on.

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