Frenzied Flame Seal | Elden Ring Wiki

For a Frenzy incant build it's better to cast with Erdtree Seal with Faith at 80 and offhand Frenzy Flame Seal than to dual wield Frenzy Flame Seal up until pretty high stats/lvl (~175+ depending)

Dual FFS starts to pull ahead at a hefty stat spread, around 30 STR/40 DEX/30 INT/45 FTH which soaks up a lot of stat points that could be going to VIG/MND/END. I built this to get max cast speed with Radigon Icon but cast speed is pretty minor (up to a few tenths of a second, maybe a small charge time reduction as well) and probably not worth burning a talisman slot for. And you can cast Golden Order incants (meh). But for lvl 200+ casting mostly Frenzy spells dual FFS is the way to go, hardly an optimal caster build but if you're doing frenzy at this level it's more about the style points!

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If you are casting Blood flame Blade with minimum stats (faith 12, arcane 10) I believe this seal is better then Dragon communion seal as it has higher 'faith' scaling.

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power stance two of these and shred invaders in stormveil, ritual sword talisman, fire scorp charm, godfrey icon, and ritual shield talisman. just stand behind your friends and they invader can't get to you in time.

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Coolest looking seal, nothing else matters.

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This should really scale with arcane for both lore reasons and because it would just make sense for frenzy build up (also it needs a buff)

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they really did this thing dirty. first, they changed its much cooler beta name "The Spark of Frenzy" to something that sounds generic. then with two softcapped stats, its incant scaling is around 250... the same amount in INT/FTH will put Golden Order Seal to over 300, and the same amount in just FTH will make Erdtree Seal or any other faith-only seal just absurd. With two FFS, 20 str, 45 dex, 50 fth, my frenzy spells are lucky to do 800 per cast. meanwhile pure FTH casters do more damage with sacred/flame art weapons, AND can just instant kill other players with double giants + Giantsflame Take Thee or double gravel + Death Lightning. I thought maybe this thing would be like Hollow infusion in DS3 and kinda technically be viable at lower levels, if you build around it, but really start to shine at super high levels, but nah. This thing never overtakes Golden Order. a shame.

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E int D fai... why tho? where does the int come from???

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So I guess it's Frenzied Flame seal (better damage) for PvE and Dragon Communion seal (more madness) for PvP?

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If you see peeps using this at low levels then you know they're almost certainly a cheating twink (I don't personally have an issue with non-cheating twinks), as there is no way to obtain this seal without getting Edgar's halberd that locks you out of low-level play. A friend could drop it for them, that's the only non-cheating way, and let's be real, that's not as likely. I will say though, if the twink also has frenzy eyes and burn marks, at least they actually played through the game after cheating. Beating Morgott and Mohg at a low level is still an accomplishment of sorts. It's just a really powerful seal for early game and you're not supposed to have it for multiplayer, so....

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This seal is underrated pretty hard imo. I use it at +4 on a Level 60 Dex & Faith build and the damage it pulls on Madness Incantations is maddening. Frenzied Burst and Flame of Frenzy will pump out so much damage especially if you have 2 Frenzied Flame Seals. I like to use Howl of Shabriri and use the classic Cerulean Hidden Tear and Leaden Hardtear combo with Unendurable Frenzy to melt bosses. Every other seal at that level didn't come close to the damage this one put out. I find this Seal is far better in the first 1/3 of the game.

-Con

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I killed Malenia, finished milicents questioned completely, killed placidusax and met three fingers before fast travelling and using needle, in that order

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Insane how a seal made of blood is better at casting Frenzied Flame incantations than a seal made of that same flame

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I think that a seal designed around madness should probably increases how much madness build up you do (i want this to have arc scaling)

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The Incantation Scaling soft caps for Strength, Dexterity and Intelligence are 15/30/45 when casting with this Seal. If you are intending on actually using this Seal instead of the Erdtree Seal, get a 2nd one from NG+ or a friend to double stack it’s Frenzied Flame incantation buff. Use it with the Black Dumpling head gear and cast Howl of Shabriri until Madness procs on you.

Don’t forget to use the 2 talismans that increase incantation damage.

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If you're using this for a frenzied flame build it is best to leave it in your offhand for the status buff, and use Erdtree Seal +10 for casting

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Perfect for Dex builds who haven't figured out Beast's Roar and Thunderbolt exist yet.

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Faith build that casts fast. Sure it isn't the best in terms of damage but you can invest in 40 dex and still get some damage while casting real fast.

Plus a pure frenzy flame build is just about the maddest thing you can do in this game.

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So, if we get one of the other endings first, does that prevent us from obtaining this seal?

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Wish this also scaled with arcane because why not, but I can see why they didn't because I feel if this buffed frenzied spells by 20% and caused additional frenzy build up from the scaling it'd be a little strong.

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Dual wielding these makes frenzy spells overpowered. I got frenzied burst dealing 5000+ damage and charging unendurable frenzy dealing 10000+ before I get madness

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Having it scale with all 4 of the major damage stats is clever, lore wise.
The Frenzied Flame wants all things once separated to be conjoined once again, and thus, casting through their power is indiscriminate. It regards all things as better as one, and so does their seal.
Shame that when the inevitable dex/faith seal drops in the DLC, it's gonna be completely outclassed.

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For anyone getting this for completion purposes but still want a specific ending you can still get this just go do the scene with the three fingers after you have finished the game with the ending you want but before going into ng+, the game will let you.

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Best seal for dex users and low faith investment. I am using it on my malenia cosplay build and got the minimal 35 faith in order to use malenia's flower and some buffs as well. Then at 80 dex and 35 faith it does 239 scaling compared 207 from finger seal which I was using before.

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Seal of Night & Flame

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A complete Int/Faith fire caster would be a fun end-game build using Gelmir staff and Frenzy seal, and putting some points into Strength for any weapons since both catalysts scale with both all three stats.

Great fashion possibilities and fun pure caster opportunities with a wide options for ash of war switch ups. Maybe Clayman's Spear with Black Flame Tornado, since it does Magic damage innately and Fire damage when infused?

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Got this within 15 minutes of playing on my very first playthrough, didn't need a walkthrough, really easy and super good! :D

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"Inescapable Frenzy is not currently buffed by this seal due to the spell's unusual damage calculation. See its page for details." This is incorrect. With a friend I just tested Inescapable Frenzy with a 117 Spellbuff Frenzyflame Seal and a 119 Spellbuff Clawmark seal. In fact, the damage boost is massive. With the Clawmark I got 370 damage, with the Frenzied Flame I got 510. That's roughly a 40% increase. Keep in mind that a good chunk is Madness trigger damage, so the actual boosted damage the spell itself is getting is probably even higher. Basically, the Frenzied Flame Seal seems to uniquely buff the Inescapable Frenzy spell significantly.

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I'm convinced the only reason they didn't let this also scale with arcane was because it would make it op

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Nice. Only dex seal, but if you dont want to get frenzy flame ending while still being able to use the best dex talisman(prosthesis) you cant get it.

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If you have very low caster stats and very high Dexterity, this is the best seal you can use. I have 38 Strength and 55 Dexterity (on account of wanting maximum returns from my Bloodhound's Fang) and want to meet the minimum requirements of Bloodboon (14 Faith, 17 Arcane). With this seal I'm getting 201 Incant Scaling, which is much better than the other options available.

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Since Catch Flame only needs 8 Faith to cast and this seal doesn't have a Faith requirement, you can cast Catch Flame without needing to invest points into Faith for starting classes that have less than the 10 Faith needed to effectively use the Finger or Dragon Communion Seals, such as the Hero, Bandit, Warrior, Vagabond, and Samurai. This is incredibly niche, but technically a useful benefit for builds that have very limited stat points to reinvest, as this saves a maximum of 3 levels of otherwise required investment, 2 into Faith and 1 into Endurance to use the Seals that have weight.

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Why does this say there is a passive 5 madness build up? I tried to cause that to happen with both Frenzyflame incants and non frenzy incants but nothing happened.

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really? this is the dex seal we get?

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Genuine question: If you managed to max all four stats, how high does this thing's scaling get? I feel like it's probably still not as good as some of the others, but I'm interested.

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Pve wise, having 2 of these or having 1 of them as an off hand with a high faith seal is the way to go. A lot of damage stacking and flexibility is a must for PvE as a faith caster. But if you plan to pvp…
Definitely recommend to off hand this and use the dragon commission seal if you plan to do any kind of PvP. The arcane scaling in the dragon seal improves the chaos status effect noticeably good and it becomes great against other players (especially against high poise builds since most high poise armor lack focus resistance). While you may do less damage, procing madness easier is a must since it it gives you free dmg, stuns and applies pressure to your foe whenever you build up status. You even have access to most weapons with the use of occult infusion. (preferably with a weapon with built in bleed).

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Not me accepting the curse of an eldritch outer god that seeks to eternally torment every living being so I can reinvest points from endurance and use some basic utility magic while light rolling

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At low levels, using frenzy incants with this seal is so good. Of course, you're not supposed to have this seal (let alone two copies of it, hm...) at the start of the game, but after you beat morgott and mohg, the omen on NG+ at level 18, try powerstancing two +1 frenzy seals, Equip the two fingers heirloom, fire scorpion charm, godfrey icon, and flock's canvas talisman, drink the faith knot and flame-shrouding tears, cast howl of shabriri, and melt it all away in the yellow chaos flame. You've earned it!

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I will use it, becouse it's look really cool. Even if it worse then other.

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i have found that this seal actually provides a larger buff to flame incants than the giantsflame seal

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Yeah no. Whoever pointed out that you’re better off using the dragon communion seal for frenzy incants didn’t do their homework. At Rl 50 with +4 seals the frenzy talisman still has about 10 more spell buff than the communion seal. Now, that’s not even counting the 20% extra damage you get for using frenzy incants. Plus, you get a whopping 40% extra damage by having two frenzy incants equipped. So if we’re talking about pure frenzy and damage, this seal beats dragon by about 300-500 damage at rl 50, which is huge!
I don’t know if you want to build up arcane to take advantage of potentially stun locking players into madness, but through a damage perspective the frenzy seal is working as intended .

Another cool fact is if you dual wield two frenzy flames, there’s a bug where pricing madness on an NPC tarnished instantly kills them as if you proc’d deathblight. No matter how much health they have. This makes the late game NPC invaders a breeze to fight.

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this seal should have the higest potential scaling, as it scales with 4 stats, AND it builds madness on the caster so it have both high stat requirements and a hefty cost to incantations, and yet sadly, it does not outperform dragon communion seal

stick in off hand when casting madness spells is the only use for it. hopefully it gets a buff later on

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I'm trying to make a dex/faith build work (capped at lv 150). The motivation behind it is faster casting speed and the versatility with it, using offensive mid-ranged incants and your usual buffs, while also having a strong melee weapon (using Vyke's War Spear). Only thing is that I don't get how incant scaling with the stats really works.
With 55 dex and 40 faith, is this the seal I am looking for?

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i think people have this seal backwards. its not for a character with 99 in all 4 of the governing stats. i always run a similar biuld in souls like games where i get 15-20 int for all the cool buff spells like starlight, shield buff, unseen form, etc. and then something similar to faith (once i unlock some of the better buffs) and then just go full quality biuld with 60/60 str and dex. its not about stat effeciency, i just like being able to use basically anything in the game. in elden ring this has basically become the”buff biuld” but as a result of this stat spread frenzy ends up being the best with super low “caster stats” and high str and dex if you do want to cast offensive spells. its all about versatility…at least for me

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the beastial vitality applier inator

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Diegetically and mechanically madness build-up should scale with faith. Mechanically because it's lame/bad that the dragon communion seal is better at applying madness than the *madness seal*. Diegetically because the flame of frenzy draws its power from the despair of the inhabitants of the lands between, which is why I think the seal scales with every other stat equally, despair can rise up from anybody and the frenzied flame will accept any suitably powerful tarnished as its host. Faith in the frenzied flame increases the power of your frenzied flame incantations. So why does madness buildup scale with ARC? Why, Fromsoft... Why. You did frostbite correctly so why not madness?

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it's a shame that incantations don't apply madness when cast with this seal; would've made Elden Stars way more dangerous

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pain in the ass hard to get, and withouth looking anything up. U aint getting it

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Does anyone reading or commenting here know if having this seal in my right hand, but then casting a frenzy incantation using a golden order seal in my left will I still get the 20% damage bonus?

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fun fact scales off dex as well plus 7 with 28 faith 32 dex it has a spell buff of 195 where 40 faith and 13 dex it spell buff is 190 very good seal for faith dex builds

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Seems lile there went a lot of madness into the scaling balance... seriously... this thing is kinda trash. No reasonable build ever can invest enough points into 4 stats while still maintaining survivabillity in the pvp meta. Everyone is just better off with using one of the other seals. I know frenzied flame incantations are just meant to annoy and stun people in pvp, not to deal damage with their initial hit. But c'mon bruh.. give us some bang for our bucks.

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At 99 all 4 stats it has 400 incant scaling that said does anyone know if this uses the full scaling instead of just faith scaling for weapon buffs and heals? That would make it better than dragon communion seal/Golden order seal (415-418 incant scaling at 99 Faith+Arcane/INT) at extreme levels and niche scenarios.

It is pretty much useless otherwise. Off hand it for mech build I guess.

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Why is this thing not the highest-scaling catalyst in the game? It scales off of 4 separate attributes! Lore-wise: it can only be obtained after coming into direct contact with the emissary of an outer god, which basically turns you into the Lord of Chaos. So why in the name of all that's unholy is this seal so mediocre outside of very specific builds (Dex mains with some Str and enough Fth to meet the incantation requirements)?

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I love when some guy leaps out of a bush & grabs me with this.

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"if you are using it for buffs on a twink build" bro I'm a sorcerer who isn't gonna invest to get 17 faith for golden order just to cast law of regression and bestial vitality. don't call me a twink build.

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Does this still work in NG+ if you use Miquella's needle to remove the three finger's influence? I thought it wouldn't so I didn't waste a somber dragon stone on it. But the wiki NG+ checklist says the mark of frenzied flame will be removed from your character but doesn't mention this seal in either of the lists of what you keep and what you lose.
On one hand it is a story item linked to one of the endings on the other it's something a lot of players will have used runes and somber stones to upgrade it which will be a waste of a limited resource if somber dragon stones are used get +10.

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This seems like the kind of goofy ahh seal that one guy with 99 in every stat would use

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They either need to change the scaling on madness to faith or they need to add arcane scaling to this seal. As it is you're better off using the Dragon Communion Seal for madness incantations.

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"If you're trying to get this solely to use Flame Cleanse Me, Bestial Vitality, or whatever set buffs you're after on a TWINK build, try using the Golden Order Seal or the Erdtree Seal. Still weightless, and you can cast your buffs just fine, even without meeting the requirements." ERDTREE SEAL HAS 40 FAITH AND GOLDEN ORDER HAS 17 INT&FAI REQUIREMENT

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Is the incant scaling only based on strength? Do dexterity, intelligence, and/or faith also influence the casting scaling? If so, which? Do they all do so?

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is this thing tradedable?

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pretty decent for pvp madness builds, at 20str, 43dex, 10int and 31fth i get 229 incant scaling. since my stats are relatively spread out i still get some scaling for every point spent, while its also a 0 weight seal so i dont get any extra weight either.

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Is this a Hybrid seal - only Faith portion works for Heals and Buffs?

Does it have 1.5x bonus for 2-handing, like Clawmark does?

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0 requirement but in the end-game... Who the **** think it's a good idea? A big kiss goodbye to every Incantations in my level 1 run, RIP.

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NOTE for those who don't want to change their ending: You can get the Seal AFTER beating the game, but before starting NG+. Make your way to Frenzied Flame Proscription, unlock the site of grace, and then fast travel out of there without opening the door. Afterwards, go ahead and beat the game, decline NG+, then fast travel back, and complete the quest.

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Why does ot have dex scaling when it scales with str???

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Is it worth using over more specialized seals on a Faith/Int build with some STR investment? I mostly use lightning and healing incantations so its either this or gravel seal

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It's actually quite decent on a quality build. At 60 str and dex, it has a incant scaling of 210+

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I'm using it on my dex-fai build just because i like how it looks. I'm not casting anything that deals damage (like flame, cleanse me, or grant me strenght). I just like how it looks like you have a tinsy-tiny flame of frenzy in your hand. It also goes well with vyke's.

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Can someone explain the bit about the madness buildup?

Causes Madness Buildup:
Only applies to physical attacks made with the seal, as non-Frenzied Flame incantations cast with this seal will not gain Madness buildup on impact.
The amount of Madness caused by Frenzied Flame Incantations is not affected by this seal.

It says both non-Frenzied and frenzied incantations dont get more madness buildup, and that it only applies to physical attacks.
Physical like, smacking them with the talisman? What specific things does this add madness buildup to?

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If you're trying to get this solely to use Flame Cleanse Me, Bestial Vitality, or whatever set buffs you're after on a twink build, try using the Golden Order Seal or the Erdtree seal. Still weightless, and you can cast your buffs just fine, even without meeting the requirements.

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The scaling is silly, but this is the only seal in the game with 0 weight and 0 requirements. This makes it great for builds that stop at 12 faith for Bestial Vitality and Flame Cleanse Me, both of which are fantastic utility spells that don't have any scaling component anyway. Honestly just about any build that doesn't focus on incants should consider this.

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I keep this slotted on every single build just to be able to cast Flame Cleanse Me, the best incantation in the game

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It's not among the best seals, but it's really the only option if you want to use incantations and are going to spec primarily into DEX or DEX with some STR (such as with the Bloodhound Fang). Also, Flame of Frenzy and Frenzied Burst, which get an extra 20% buff with this seal, are very solid in PvE, particularly when charged, even if they're probably better known for irritating madness mayhem in PvP. It can be shocking how much damage a charged Flame of Frenzy can do (and I'm talking late game against strong enemies) in addition to frequently staggering for even more damage with a riposte or charged attack opening.

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I love doing the entirety of Hyetta's quest and going all the way down to the Frenzied Flame Proscription to sell this for 100 runes

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kinda sad that with 80 in everything this doesnt even have the best incant scaling. would be nice if it had better stats so that dex/faith builds have a decent seal like str/faith builds do

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Much like Arcane for the Dragon Seal, it appears the Str/Dex/Int Incant Scaling softcaps for this are 45.


It also seems there is a very narrow window that makes this a viable seal for a Dex/Fai build, with 45 Dex/45 Fai giving 242 Incant Scaling. Any more Faith, and other seals are more practical; any more or less Dex, and the Incant Scaling suffers.

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No Fth requirement, hands down the best seal to cast Law Of Regression. Kinda funny to see an invader losing stacks of buffs and start running to rebuff like an idiot.

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Does more dmg for sure but if ur going for madness buildup with frenzied burst then use dragon seal

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and little fun bonus - if you're a pure sorcerer struggling against magic fortification or barrier of gold, this has 0 faith requirement making it optimal for being able to cast law of regression without any stat investment

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Best seal for a build that just wants to run the non-scaling support stuff like "flame, grant me strength", however dragon seal is far easier to get and 10 arcane is already met on many classes.

I'm only counting zero weight seals btw.

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I've got a character I'm running relatively low level for a first clear. 25 fth for buffs and utility spells, 35 Dex. Picking this up basically skyrocketed my scaling.

Getting this thing took 1.5 weight off my build which is a huge deal for fast rolling. I think I went from 155~ spell buff to 195~. On top of it all it upgrades with somber stones instead of smithing which makes life a lot easier.

If you're running a build like mine this thing is an outrageous character buff.

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'Boosts Frenzied Flame Inc.' sounds like it increases the sales of a company.

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Yall if you want to test stats dont waste Larvar tears; use this link instead!:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EvWcQFlu9C9_VwHXQKEJGR5x0UMcHoUauVeTEuYtXJc/copy

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50/50/50/50 scaling is 334. i wish this seal had onle dex/str/faith scaling without Int. It would be easier, also Golden Order seal already has Int scale.

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Frenzied flame seal +10 does not have base 229 incant it’s around 175-180

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Maybe this would be good for a quality build with a minimal faith investment? Like, super high STR and DEX but only 15 FTH so you can cast flame grant me strength, or some other low-investment incantations

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Did some tests on a low level character with a Frenzied Flame Seal +3. I didn't have a lot of Larval Tears, and only being level 50, I wasn't able to test with a high investment into any stats. My tests weren't precise, just repeccing and seeing how equipping different stat-increasing armor and talismans affected incant scaling. ~~Also since my seal was upgraded to +3, these results are only useful for a general comparison of the scaling between stats. A fully upgraded or unupgraded seal might have different relative scaling.~~

Strength/Dexterity/Intelligence under 15 had negligible scaling, increasing incant scaling by around .25 per stat point
Strength/Dexterity/Intelligence 15-30 increased incant scaling about 1 per stat point
Strength/Dexterity/Intelligence 30-40 increased incant scaling about .4 per stat point (didn't record most of my testing before running out of Larval Tears, might be inaccurate)
Strength/Dexterity/Intelligence 40+ didn't test

Faith under 16 unable to test
Faith 16-30 increased the incant scaling by about 2 per stat point
Faith 30-45 increased incant scaling by about .8 per stat point
Faith 45+ increased incant scaling about .4 per stat point

So there seems to be a 'reverse softcap' for stats below 15, but I couldn't test faith in that range because I started as a Prophet with 16 faith. The best scaling for any individual stat was between 15 and 30 before hitting a softcap, with another softcap at 45 for faith. I would assume there's also a softcap for strength, dexterity, and intelligence at 45 but I wasn't being efficient with my testing early on and ran low on Larval Tears. What I found interesting was that the scaling for faith after 30 was just a little bit worse than the scaling for the other stats between 15 and 30. So prioritize 30 faith first, then go for 30/30/30/30, then 30/30/30/45, then it doesn't matter based on my testing unless there are other softcaps I was unable to reach. The exception to this is if str/dex/int is lower than 11. In that case increasing faith to 45 returns more for the investment rather than trying to overcome the 'reverse softcap' on those stats. But again, my testing was far from thorough and might be inaccurate outside of the exact situation I was in.

TL;DR if using the Frenzied Flame Seal (based on limited testing): Ignore dump stats under 11 > Get faith to 30 > 30/30/30/30 (except dump stats) > 30/30/30/45 (except dump stats) > 30/30/30/45

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Probably the biggest issue is that due to not having arcane scaling, it doesn't improve the madness buildup which gives it it's niche, making the dragon seal ironically better for those spells in pvp.

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This really should have way higher scaling when you have 99 in all 4 stats but somehow is considerably worse than dragon communion with 99 on 2 stats. Sad times for PvE players.

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Strange, I got the item after completing the game, but I used the needle to remove the frenzy. I talked to her under Lyndell, and she would just say the same thing over and over to touch her. I went into the empty fingers room and got summoned as a Hunter, then tried to blast her with the jar cannon from the room since you can attack in there, went back to her and got seal as if I were frenzied like before. I don't know what could have triggered it, maybe just entering the room again and back works, but again, I'm not frenzied anymore.

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If you're using frenzied flame incantations you can keep this in your offhand and cast with a different seal that doesn't require four different stats to use effectively.

Alternatively, if you want a seal that is weightless and has low/no stat requirements this is an option, though it is a very niche need to have

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If you want to do a lvl 40, weapon level 3 (lvl1 somber) madness character to invade or coop in limgrave/morte this is the only item you can’t get cause they decided Edgar has to drop a freaking +7 weapon with his Grape… Managed to get everything, including Marica’s Soreseal but this is basically locked… what a ridiculous decision by from.

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Seal under performs in hybrid and pure faith compared to other seals. Weh? :v

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Certainly do not use it in a int/faith build if you have an inkling it would be good and allow you to splash some fun spells while progressing. 40/55 int and faith with fire boost in physick, frenzy seal +9 (255 scaling) and at the same time i put golden order to +8 (303 scaling, physick for both ofc). Frenzied burst damage is (frenzy seal+9) 475 and (golden order+8) 485 uncharged, non surprised attack against the stationary gargoyles in deeproot depths (which have no wiki mention???). I should have checked scaling/damage with my faith build equivalent first!

Makes me wonder why this even gets all those low to mid grade scaling. Flexibility? But then i just found it falls flat in hybrid. No one will have 70-99 in all the scaling stats after reading below lol. I wanna know if lvl 130 hybrid or lvl 130 faith based is better (keeping all other attributes the same)

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Utility casting and PvP seal. Not for DPS.

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So I've not noticed anyone else mention this but you can actually get this seal after already taking a different ending if you want it and you're ok getting it post game.

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Probably best sacred seal, not only buffs frenzied flame incantations that are meta on PvP but it's also good on PvE (I recommend Dragon incantations for PvE tho). Versatile as your can use all type of spells while having a scaling not too far from other sacred seals like the golden order seal.

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Why is no one gonna mention that this is (as far as i know) the ONLY item that can cast both sorceries and incantations?!?!?! Like seriously tf

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Haven’t seen info on this anywhere online. In older titles upgrading something that had a specific type of damage boost applied innately on it would increase that damage boost with each respective level. Does anybody know if upgrading this increase the amount it boosts frenzied flame spells by?

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For those saying Frenized spells are useless in PvE, you haven’t seen the range of burst. Sorcery has great bow to snipe targets from a far while no incantations can match that distance except burst. As long as you can lock on to them, you hit them. If you can eyeball it, you can hit a non locked on target by a little more. So if you want to pull one mob in the distance and not get the ones before them, this is huge to avoid getting 5+ mobs all at once.

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