Backhand Blades | Elden Ring Wiki

Everything powerstanced curved swords have going for them are running and jumping attacks which people abuse to proc status effects. This class is WAY better in terms of moveset. Jump attack, strong attack, crouch attack, all are extremely useful. Running R2 can stagger enemies with high poise and guard counters are absolute S tier. They may look silly but functionally they are direct upgrade to PSCS

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Wish we got the crystallian cirque

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This is probably the silliest weapon class yet. "Backhand Blades" yet only one is a backhand blade, the two other one are chakrams.
And even the backhand blade makes no sense, it's just a scimitar, a curved sword, but because From said so we grip it in reverse and get a paired weapon. From should revisit how they make weapons classes and moveset in their future games.

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everyone asking for the crystalian cirque when the base game already has 4 crystal weapons that NO ONE uses because they're some of the worst in the whole game

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I hate these weapons. The ashes of war are so hard to deal with under even slight latency, they just fling hitboxes willy nilly and have way too much poise damage for what is meant to be a hit and run playstyle. But by far the biggest crime and what makes me hate them the most is that we didn't get the goddamn crystallian cirque as a weapon. What were they thinking?

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these let you continue running after a running r1 attack

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all the downsides of curved swords but without the upsides (way lower DPS and worse moveset). mid weapon class carried by two broken AOWs

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New PvP meta. Appears as much as moonveil, RoB, ans Guts sword.

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Are they supposed to win trades against collosal weapons? :/

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Bruh, i wish we got some crsytalian cirque like you see them with. And the Ash of War could've been that one spinny move where they throw it and then it rolls back to you, know what i mean?

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I died inside when I realized this had more range, speed, damage and style than my spear. That’s every DLC weapon I guess :/ and most of the base game weapons anyways.

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The description just needs to say "now you can carry over your FFXIV Dancer character over to ED"

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I really miss the old Swift Slash in pvp, but at least I've got Blindspot to stick it to invaders. --The Fist of Fury

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As someone who frequently uses a shield it's SUPER funny to see people pull these out with blind spot on them to "counter my shield" my dawg if you want my medium shield dead that bad, I'll just put it away no need to go nuclear.

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This is what daggers should've been, you hold both of them backwards and do these quick attacks just like ninjas in metin2. Man that would've been perfect, but these are just as cool so I'll take it.

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If only I had a Stone Ring ...

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People say katana and great katana are the weeb weapons. But this is the ultimate weeb weapon class.

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3 weapons, two of them, (the cirques) are cool! They are unique and the "deadly dance" and weapon throw on the smithscript one is neat. But I'd have loved there to be a unique one with an Ash of war which switches it between PS curved sword moveset, and the backhand blades moveset. Not really a fan of the standard backhand blades though, too bland looking for such a fancy and spinny moveset.

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Wish we got the Crystillian Frisbee. Smithscript will have to do.

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C/B/B is some of the best scaling you can get as cold, and it makes for an amazing main hand weapon for int build

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This is good invader pesticide if you have one or two people. Keep crying your heart's out to those who have something to say about it though. Your rivers of tears will remain as our primary, natural resource.

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I kinda think falx, Ranah swords or horned pair swords should’ve been backhand. There is already great variety in curved swords category

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If I see a goat using blasphemous or moonveil this L2 blade is coming out of my back pocket

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crystalian frisbee would be cool until you realize they would scale with int

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Unpopular opinion, use this to repel invaders if you don't like being invaded by sweaty tryhards or 10 year olds youtubers while enjoying your peaceful co-op. It's their own choice to invade.

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Makes your character run like Tina on Bob's Burgers. Which I love.

First impression upon finding and equipping them

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I think they where better making 4 or 5 and one of them could be like the clayman's harpoon or like the demon scar from ds3 with like the ash of war in don't know that could bel a stance that could give a little damage boost not a lot but a little and the second one could give a little bit less stamina consomption cause for backhand blades they take to much stamina

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I've been doing PvP with these and enjoyed it so far, but I feel like their Ash of War selection is pretty bad outside of the Blind Spot and Swift Slash, there's almost no decent options for these out of the AoWs I've found anyways, could anyone suggest some Ashes of War for this weapon type that could be fun to use in pvp?

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This weapon class really makes me wish we had some kind of spell like vow of silence but for weapon arts instead of spells

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Powerstance moveset is for the most part the same as 2H moveset. Normal L1 attack chain, rolling\crouching L1 and backstep L1 are the same as 2H, running L1 is the same as 2H running R1 and jumping L1 is the same as 2H jumping R2.

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Wish we got the crystalian blades with these

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yo hear me out my brethren, reverse katanas with infusible AoW

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There should be an un-blockable SLAP AoW that doesn’t do any damage but makes their next AoW backfire, maybe a 10s window

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I like how you can turn a boring curved sword into a whirlwind of death and destruction by just holding it the wrong way

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unsure why this comment section has such a vitriolic reaction to people correctly pointing out that the ashes are absurdly broken in pvp. it seems like the main complaint is people dont want pve things nerfed for pvp reasons, even though fromsoft put out multiple updates for the base game for this reason specifically. and even if you point to pvp vs pve scalings, they nerf things solely for pve reasons as well. they dont look at rolling sparks 3 shotting bosses and think thats the intended experience, they remove it. swift slash and blindspot are as broken in pve too, basically bloodhound step if it also dealt damage. its fine if you just think they are cool but its fromsofts game and they want to maintain some degree of balance for both pve and pvp

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Don't let the two overpowered ashes of war distract you from the fact that these weapons have an insane base moveset. R1, R2s, running R1, guard counters. This weapon category just does it all.

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Used these once in a pvp match without l2 and the damage they put out with just rotten winged sword talisman just cements that these need to be nerfed

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It's weird that we didn't get crystallian chakrams (and the rotten version) as somber weapons for this class. That would have 2 more weapons to this category, both of which are INT. That would probably not take long for From to implement either, considering the models already exist ingame...

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These weapons have movesets? I've never seen anyone use attacks other that L2

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The guard counter is kinda nutty if you use the Deflecting Hardtear, hits multiple times

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In PvP, the weapons themselves are mostly fine, it's the unique Ashes of War that are completely busted

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You know you're in for a complete slog when you see your opponent pull out these

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I wish we got more curved-sword-looking versions

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Spamming 2h running r1 is faster than sprinting

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Can't get hit with blind spot and swift slash if I don't aggro the other player.

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Backhand blades have another ash of war called "backlash". It seems people use it ALOT more outside the game tho, I wonder why?

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grabbed this, upgraded it to +25 and finished the whole DLC with it, very fun and useful weapon in every scenario possible

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backhand blade user dont use blind spot or swift slash for 0.0003 seconds challenge (difficulty: impossible)

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Lol, all these posts complaining about PvP when this game is a PvE game first and foremost. Cope.

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Heehee

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Really sad that there is no one-handed back hand blade, I think there's alot of room for diversity in the weapon class like with normal curved swords (powerstance and 2handed both being viable and fun).

Also the ashes on this weapon are insanely unskilled and broken for no reason. Its like they just brought this in from another game.

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These comments are so tilted.

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The ashes of war you can put on this thing are PVP ruining

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it would be 100% cooler if you just grabbed those blades like a proper person who knows what they are doing with a sword instead of like a degenerate weeb who actually thinks reverse grip works

spoiler: it doesn't work at all, it has not even a single good use, you lose power on the strike, lose reach, lose range of motion and leaves yourself completely open to someone to just cut your arm off and pierce your heart before you can start flailing your arms + you can't block at all (unless you want to dislocate your hand)

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Why call the weapon class backhand blades if two thirds of the weapons in the class are stupid disk things. I want to hold my swords backwards like an 'edge, Lord'

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I avoided these weapons for a while since, apparently, it is everyone's favorite now. If you, like I was, are in doubt...don't hold up, give them a chance. This weapon category is crazy fun, I didn't use them in pvp and I avoided the standard backhand since the weapon art feels pretty busted in every scenario but even then, the other two options are amazing. The throwing one you can infuse with every element and it will work, almost no stance damage but with a good talisman combination they deal good damage while giving you a little bit of range and decent tracking. The other one is everything I wanted from daggers....fast movements, R2 moves you forward and lower your hitbox a bit while attacking, counterblock is nice and innate bleed is always nice.

Again, ignore everyone else, give these weapon a go, you won't regret it

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I feel like I'm missing something with these. They feel good, nearly great. But I don't quite feel like they are "broken" as some people claim they are.

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As soon as I see someone take out these I give up. It's not worth the stress of trying to win or thinking you can beat them.

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Needs to be nerfed to the ground in pvp

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The moment I got these my immediate thoughts were "this is going to get nerfed in PvE because of PvPers whining about it"

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really makes you feel like dancer of the boreal valley

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Weapons like these make me wish fromsoft would stop pretending to care about pvp, I’m tired of being let down, either start balancing or just gut the system already.

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the amount of times i've nearly beat a guy and he just soft swaps to one of these and just starts spamming swift slash or blind spot lmao. it's like the "i give up but still want the screen to say victory" weapon

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Yeah these Swords Are Amazing do you know what would make them better. If You Gripped them Blade Up.

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Really sucks how there's only 3 weapons of this type. There's so much potential here for a ton of cool weapons

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Luke, have I ever told you about Ahsoka Tano? We told her to grip weapon backwards like a dîldo. And she was a good friend.

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Hey I'm the guy who made the "running attacks will make or break this weapon class" and I was kinda wrong actually, what makes this weapon class insane is the ash of wars! I couldn't have guessed! Welcome back Bloodhound step, Patch 1.06 - 1.12.

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PvPers stop playing and go cry to your mommies

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I hope these are the first weapons the next patch nerfs. Including the ash of wars.

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This weapon is making pvp an absolute snoozefest and on top of that the design is just lazy. I mean, an entire weapon class that's basically curved swords but held in reverse grip? It's so unbelievably dumb.

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Tested with 14 str 80 dex:
Blackhand blade has 579 damage has S scaling with keen and longer so better to catch up people;
Curseblade has 603 damage shorter reach also unlike blackhand blade can not be used with resins. As for the last one smithscript i dont know where the hell is it as i barely explored the map alone and im underleveled :/

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Drenched in sweat.

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The dual wielded running r1 completely whiffs on enemies you are locked onto sometimes. For some reason you go completely around them missing your attack altogether.

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feels a lot like claws - really fast, up-close and personal.

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The guard counters on these go so unreasonably hard. Hits like 4 times with good poise damage and fairly fast too. That sounds like a bad meme until you find the new deflecting tear and whoops you have a weapon with high dps, good mobility/spacing, a dodge and punish WA, and even a psuedo-parry.

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SellsswordArts arch nemesis

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Ngl, every dog and their mother use this weapon, and the AoW is ridicilously spammable - with decent damage to boot.

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im the biggest fromsoft fanboy but if they only added 3 (and only one cool normal sword pair) to that new type its a bit of a fumble because these chakrams look very weird and dont fell as cool as the normal reverse blades they should have given the deathknight dual light swords for his flashy style not these clumbsy axes (i dont like axes because they have these heavy ass moveset)

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have they found all 100 new weapons ? im a bit confused about i saw a guy telling there are only 70 new weapons and the coolest weapon class only having 1 cool option is a bit weird (i like normal smithing stone weapons alot more then these chakrams)

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Bro, the Cirque is bugged, the throw attack is sooooo short.

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Why is there only one icepick grip curved sword, and two chakrams? Feels odd having two completely different weapons in different categories. Also, why is there only one reverse curved swords?

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Kinda disappointed that there is no backhanded straight sword

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Holy pepperoni Blinspot's back

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WAIT- so are these reverse grip swords, swords that have the curved blades facing the other direction, or arm blades?

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I mean, aren’t these swords like made for the purpose of reverse gripping them, wait if that is how you’re supposed to hold them, then would it just be a normal grip for these types of weapons. I’m going to stop talking.

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From the footage it seems like Reverse grip blades have a bit slower dual moveset compared to 2 curved swords.

However, from the skinny basic ones we saw in streamer footage, they had high damage at 80 dex compared to a scimitar which would be it's likely counterpart. Imagine how much damage the "Bandits Curved Sword" Reverse grip counterpart will be.

Furthermore it seems these weapons are paired by default, meaning when you buff them you get bloodflame blade on both hands, or lightning armanent on both hands etc. This is the return of the high dps king of dark souls 3, sellsword twinblades buffed with sunlight blade.

God is Great.

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Ashoka Tano build incoming! — The Fist of Fury

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The redditor's choice

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for maximum edge

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Ahsoka Tano build lets goooooo!

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How to hold a Sword Wrong 101.

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Vyke's Dragonbolt has entered the chat.

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SellSwordArts has been really quiet since this dropped

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That scene in Mongol where the elite horseman charge in a spread out formation - they are wielding blades in reverse.

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Kinda like Asuma's hand thingies from naruto?

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This is the only weapon class that I have issue with. Like realistically they aren't any different from normal swords, the guy is just holding them differently

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so i'm writing this for people who like me have some issues. the goal is to ease acceptance and maybe appreciation. Around the 1700s CSs started having some double edged tips, one recorded technique was throwing a side cut followed by a nasty reverse slash the to stomach that would rip the guts out. Going back to the preview footage these weapons would make use of both the concave and convex edges, and the shown moves are physically plausible at least (even if they're not practical, colossal weapons aren't either). my only gripe is that i'd rather have that slick nice looking sword as a normal cs, but we thankfully have modding

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Need some built in bleed ones for maximum edge

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Reverse EDGYed Swords

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Assuming these are naturally paired like claws and fists, and have the fast moveset and high ar of paired curved swords, these would make very good weapons to use scholars armament or lightning armament as it would be applied to both hands and twice every l1.

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