Primal Glintstone Blade

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status effect 18 elden ring wiki guide 44px status effect 20 elden ring wiki guide 44pxReduces  Spell  FP costs by 25% but reduces maximum  HP by 15%

Primal Glintstone Blade is a Talisman in Elden RingPrimal Glintstone Blade reduces Spell FP costs by 25% but reduces maximum HP by 15%. Players can use Talismans in Elden Ring to boost a variety of Stats.

 

An old glintstone blade that has been stained with blood.

Reduces FP consumption of sorceries and incantations at the cost of maximum HP.

The old sorcerers would slice open their hearts with these blades to imbue a primal glintstone with their soul, and thus did they die.

 

Primal Glintstone Blade Effect in Elden Ring

Primal Glintstone Blade reduces Spell FP costs by 25% but reduces maximum HP by 15%.

 

Primal Glintstone Blade Location in Elden Ring

Primal Glintstone Blade can be found in the following location:

  • Stargazer's Ruins in Mountaintops of the Giants: Found in a chest in an underground area near the center of the ruins. The entrance is sealed by a barrier and there is a talking Jellyfish outside who is looking for her sister. Summon your Spirit Jellyfish that you acquired at the beginning of the game to unlock the seal. [Map Link]

 

Elden Ring Primal Glintstone Blade Notes & Tips

  • Sell Value: runes currency elden ring wiki guide 18 2000
  • The -25% spell FP roughly translates to +33.3% spell FP efficiency.
  • As an Endgame item, the player should already have significant investment into Vigor and Mind by the time this talisman is reasonably available. This means problems with FP consumption come down to an un-optimized build or playstyle. At 50 vigor (1704 HP), this talisman's -15% (1704HP*0.85=1448HP) effectively reduces Vigor to 40 (1450HP). At 60 Vigor (1900 HP) it reduces HP to 1615, the equivalent of 47 Vigor. The more Vigor the character has, the worse the 15% reduction gets.
  • Using the 10 point jump from 50 to 40 in the above example to ease of reference, if these 10 points of Vigor were then put into Mind, we'd see a ~36% increase or more in FP at 20->30 Mind (121FP -> 173FP = 43 % more), 25->35 Mind (147FP -> 200FP = 36% more) or 30->40 Mind (173FP -> 235FP = 36% more), vs this talisman's 25% cost reduction.
    • All of this is a lot of words and number to say; you can get more FP by simply redistributing points from Vigor into Mind than this Talisman will effectively give you at high levels of Vigor. Making it a waste of an equipment slot this late in the game.
  • This increase in efficiency means the effective value of FP-restoring items, such as Flask of Cerulean TearsAssassin's Cerulean Dagger, Ancestral Spirit's Horn, Sacrificial Axe, and Sword of Milos, is also increased, as you are able to cast more spells with the amount of flat FP restored.
  • Without any changes to HP and FP, you need 26 Vigor (833 HP) to accept all the HP from a Flask of Crimson Tears +12 (810 HP) and 38 Mind (221 FP) to accept all the FP from a Flask of Cerulean Tears +12 (220 FP) .With a Primal Glintstone Blade equipped, you must increase your Vigor to 30 (994 * 0.85 = 844) to fully consume a flask, but your effective spell FP is increased (221 / 0.75 = 294) to be on par with 49 Mind (293 FP). That's an additional 4 level investment for an 11 level return. Assuming unreasonably low levels of Vigor, the FP bar always being exactly empty and the player ever reaching a point where a Flask of Cerulean Tears will not be able to fully recover the FP bar. That being said, this talisman does shine at low levels of investment into Vigor and Mind, making it potentially interesting for challenge runs with self-imposed investment restrictions.
  • Other notes & tips go here.

 

 

 

Elden Ring Talismans
Ancestral Spirit's Horn  ♦  Arrow's Reach Talisman  ♦  Arrow's Sting Talisman  ♦  Arsenal Charm  ♦  Assassin's Cerulean Dagger  ♦  Assassin's Crimson Dagger  ♦  Axe Talisman  ♦  Blessed Dew Talisman  ♦  Blue Dancer Charm  ♦  Blue-Feathered Branchsword  ♦  Boltdrake Talisman  ♦  Bull-Goat's Talisman  ♦  Carian Filigreed Crest  ♦  Cerulean Amber Medallion  ♦  Cerulean Seed Talisman  ♦  Clarifying Horn Charm  ♦  Claw Talisman  ♦  Companion Jar  ♦  Concealing Veil  ♦  Crimson Amber Medallion  ♦  Crimson Seed Talisman  ♦  Crucible Knot Talisman  ♦  Crucible Scale Talisman  ♦  Curved Sword Talisman  ♦  Daedicar's Woe  ♦  Dagger Talisman  ♦  Dragoncrest Greatshield Talisman  ♦  Dragoncrest Shield Talisman  ♦  Entwining Umbilical Cord  ♦  Erdtree's Favor  ♦  Fire Scorpion Charm  ♦  Flamedrake Talisman  ♦  Flock's Canvas Talisman  ♦  Furled Finger's Trick-Mirror  ♦  Godfrey Icon  ♦  Godskin Swaddling Cloth  ♦  Golden Scarab  ♦  Graven-Mass Talisman  ♦  Graven-School Talisman  ♦  Great-Jar's Arsenal  ♦  Greatshield Talisman  ♦  Green Turtle Talisman  ♦  Haligdrake Talisman  ♦  Hammer Talisman  ♦  Hosts' Trick-Mirror  ♦  Immunizing Horn Charm  ♦  Kindred of Rot's Exultation  ♦  Lance Talisman  ♦  Lightning Scorpion Charm  ♦  Longtail Cat Talisman  ♦  Lord of Blood's Exultation  ♦  Magic Scorpion Charm  ♦  Marika's Scarseal  ♦  Marika's Soreseal  ♦  Millicent's Prosthesis  ♦  Moon of Nokstella  ♦  Mottled Necklace  ♦  Old Lord's Talisman  ♦  Pearldrake Talisman  ♦  Perfumer's Talisman  ♦  Prince of Death's Cyst  ♦  Prince of Death's Pustule  ♦  Radagon's Scarseal  ♦  Radagon's Soreseal  ♦  Radagon Icon  ♦  Red-Feathered Branchsword  ♦  Ritual Shield Talisman  ♦  Ritual Sword Talisman  ♦  Roar Medallion  ♦  Rotten Winged Sword Insignia  ♦  Sacred Scorpion Charm  ♦  Sacrificial Twig  ♦  Shabriri's Woe  ♦  Shard of Alexander  ♦  Silver Scarab  ♦  Spear Talisman  ♦  Spelldrake Talisman  ♦  Stalwart Horn Charm  ♦  Starscourge Heirloom  ♦  Taker's Cameo  ♦  Twinblade Talisman  ♦  Two Fingers Heirloom  ♦  Viridian Amber Medallion  ♦  Warrior Jar Shard  ♦  Winged Sword Insignia



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    • Anonymous

      I'm only seeing a HP drop of around 1% when equipped. Takes me from 1355 to 1343. I also have a soreseal and scorpion charm equipped. Possible the HP reaction is capped?

      • Anonymous

        The criticism that this talisman is not worth it seems a bit surface level. Yes obviously it would be better to just have the points moved around, but this talisman gives you the ability to essentially swap the stats in favor of mind while clearing dungeons when you need the FP - and then simply swap back for dangerous single foes or bosses when you need the higher vigor.

        If the talisman was ever more efficient than skill point redistribution then suddenly the decision for casters would be to put the extra 10 in vigor and run this talisman whenever possible.

        This talisman is good in the same way the torch is good. You want it in a good number of dungeons but almost never during boss fights.

        • Anonymous

          The mid-wiki rants about how 'inefficient' this talisman is should be removed. They leave a lot of possibilities out of the picture and make some hard assumptions about how someone 'should' play the game.

          Like all items in the game, it will work well in some builds/playstyles and not so well in others.

          • Anonymous

            Okay the big explanation about putting points from vigor to mind isnt actually working since you shouldnt have much bigger FP bar than 220 points since you get 90% your mana from flasks.
            if you have 9 mana flasks it would equal 2200 points.
            If you fp bar were bigger than 220, like 300, your overall mana pool would be 2280.....
            So dont put points from vigor to mind. im gonna get this talisman even tho it eats my health abit.

            • Anonymous

              if you're embracing being a squishy mage sure, why not, but if you plan to have any health at all dont bother

              • Anonymous

                Article says this isn't efficient but uses it in one of the fextra builds, yeah im sure any user can edit it but I feel like this gives way too much conflicting information just not a great look.

                • Anonymous

                  Vigor scales well up till 60. At level 100+, you should be able to cap vigor and still have plenty of points in mind. But before that, you can use this talisman to make use of the better vigor:HP ratio compared to the poor mind:FP ratio at low mind levels.

                  • Anonymous

                    Now I have read alot here that this talisman is not worth it. From my experience this is not true generally. In fact it depends on your build and playstyle. I use to play a frost sorcerer and Co-Op in End Game (Lvl 150). One of the strongest spells you can use is obviously Rannis Moon. Yet the spell costs a lot of mana. If you have 40 Mind you can only cast about 3 Rannis Moons, before you have to take a flask. If you use this talisman however, you can ditch out 5 Rannis Moons. Now of course you can get 48 Mind and get the Cerulean Seed Talisman, but you would still only be able to ditch out 4 Rannis Moons. Not only that, but you also have to drink your potions sooner, which means downtime for casting spells. After having tried alot (even other more offensive talismans) the Primal Glintstone Blade is a Must for this build and playstyle.

                    • Anonymous

                      Unless you want to use this alongside the Carian Filigreed Crest, if you only want one or the other just use the Carian crest, because it reduces spell costs by the same 25%, but doesn't reduce health

                      • Anonymous

                        If you use this with Lusat's Glintstone Staff, does the 25% reduction in mana consumption apply to the total mana used (after the 33% increase from the staff) or does it simply reduce the 33% increase (from the staff) to 8%?

                        • Anonymous

                          When I started using this I moved 8 mind levels into vigor and now have significantly higher of both by using this. Essential for pure faith.

                          • Anonymous

                            It’s useful for co-op and pvp when you only get half of your flasks. Combining this with the seed talisman will significantly lower your chances of running out of fp.

                            • Anonymous

                              So there's a bunch of people throwing complicated math around as to why this is or isn't worth it, but here's the gist of it: you're not just moving a bunch of vigor into mind, you're making your mind more EFFICIENT.

                              Think of it like a fuel tank for a car. If you make the fuel tank bigger you can go further on a single tank, but it's more expensive to refill it. If you make the engine more efficient instead you can go just as far as you would be able to go the bigger tank, but you have the added benefit of not needing as much fuel to refil the tank, because the car burns the fuel slower.

                              Going back to Elden ring, this means any effect that gives you FP back (Flasks, Ancestral Spirit's Horn, Assassins Cerulean Dagger, Sword of Milos, etc) will give you better value for money, because you don't have a bigger bar - you have more efficient spells. It's a pretty steep HP cost (I'm a spellsword and personally I avoid this talisman), but if you're confident in your dodging/blocking abilities or just making a super focussed caster build this is a good pick.

                              • Anonymous

                                people tryna do the math on this have not FELT the difference on a caster build while using it. The FP reduction goes WAY further than a few points in mind does, especially with the higher cost spells like everybody's favorite Comet Azur, but even just swinging Adula's Moonblade around feels way better with this on than the extra FP would. I left my Mind stat at 30 despite being a Mage and after trying 40 mind without the Talisman, i went back and dropped my mana again in favor of the talisman. I'm serious.

                                • Anonymous

                                  Dont use this.
                                  At 60 vigor and 30 mind you lose 285 hp, which is basically 13 levels, and you effectively gain 40 fp, which is basically 12 levels, so a net -1 and
                                  a wasted talisman slot.
                                  You can make a case that it's worth using only if you have a ton of mind and little vigor(which you shouldn't), but save yourself some hp and use something else, if you really want more fp just use an heirloom or a soreseal and dump the leftover points into mind.

                                  • Anonymous

                                    Pointless talisman, it's basically a trade of points 5-6 Vigor for 5-6 Mind.
                                    There's no point in having this, just respec and move those points around.
                                    Only reason this is not useless is if Vigor was your dump stat... which I guess could work for a glass canon build, else wasted slot.

                                    • Anonymous

                                      Pair this with Baldachin's Blessing from Fia, and The Lazuli Glintstone Crown, and you've got yourself a real man's HP bar. Tell the game you know it can one shot you by breathing on you, and you don't care.

                                      • Anonymous

                                        Pair this with Ancenstral Spirit's Horn and wield the Sacrifical Axe for trash mobs/non-boss encounters. For casters, you can spam some spells stress free. You conserve so much FP.

                                        Primal Glintstone blade will save you on average of 5FP for most spells.
                                        Spirit horn + Axe = 7FP a kill (You also get FP for watching bloodstains as of this date)
                                        Really great at the cost of putting more points into Vigor. Just gotta remember to swap out talismans for bosses.

                                        • Litearlly can't obtain this item because I never obtained the Jellyfish Ash, and now the chick that gives it to me won't at the Roundable Table / Stormhill Shack.

                                          • As a note, for players with high enough Max FP such that the Cerulean flask doesn't fully fill your gauge, the Cerulean Seed Talisman would provide an overall similar benefit without the reduction in your defenses, and is available much sooner than this talisman is. It would also effectively provide this benefit to tools and abilities as well.

                                            • Just a reminder: Carian Filigreed Crest only decreases the cost of Weapon Skills, not spells. Primal Glintstone Blade only affects spells, but not skills. They do not stack, but they both work at the same time.

                                              • Anonymous

                                                this works for sorceries of course, and I am aware that it works for offensive incantations as well.... bbuuutt I feel like it doesn't work for healing incantations???? or maybe I'm just insane?

                                                • Anonymous

                                                  The health decrease doesn't line up with the numbers on here. Currently at 1382hp and after equip it put me at 1368.

                                                  • Anonymous

                                                    If you go for the Vigor soft cap at 40, and I highly recommend any build does, you have 1450 HP. With this equipped, you have 15% less HP, or 1232 HP. Looking at the vigor chart, you’re effectively paying ~4.5 points in vigor and a talisman slot to reduce your spell costs (and effectively increasing your mana pool) by 25%. That is absolutely bonkers.

                                                    • Did the research and it stacks with CARIAN FILIGREED CREST. But then again, sword talisman gets your HP 100ish lower. Tuff choice ?

                                                      • Anonymous

                                                        Very interesting. The game shows the adjusted cost of fp automatically when you equip this talisman. Under the spell description it will adjust itself to the new fp cost, as opposed to you doing the math yourself.

                                                        • Anonymous

                                                          Ah, classic From Software.
                                                          I couldn’t tell where the voice was coming from, but it seems to be near the seal. No people were around, so they had to be behind it, right? I couldn’t find any way to open it, but the jellyfish (which are enemies in this game!) was sitting suspiciously nearby, and I couldn’t interact with it in any way. So I figured hey, maybe I’m supposed to kill it. And I did.
                                                          Now I’m permanently barred from getting the item.

                                                          • Anonymous

                                                            After some testing, looks like this item gives you around 25% reduction in spell costs and takes about 15% of your max health.
                                                            HP: 800 => 680 (15%)
                                                            Spell costs:
                                                            Star Shower: 36 => 27 (25%)
                                                            Comet Azur: 40 => 30 (25%)
                                                            Carian Slicer 4 => 3 (25%)

                                                            • Anonymous

                                                              Did the math on this, appears to be a 25% reduction in spell cost rounded up, and a 15% cost to health. At 31 mind this gets me more spellcasts than the Cerulean Amber Medallion +2's FP increase.

                                                              • Anonymous

                                                                stargazer ruins, mountain tops of the giant, summon spirit jellifish ashes to open the seal the treasure chest contain it

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