Ranni's Dark Moon | Elden Ring Wiki

mfw people think to just spam this in pvp/pve when it's meant to be used as a fight opening spell to debuff and make your other spells effective, maybe ranni was right to default to going to space alone if this is the measure of her so called int build consorts

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Step 1: Terra Magica
Step 2: Flask to remove FP cost and increase magic damage
Step 3: Dark moon to reduce enemy resistance
Step 4: Comet Azur for around 2.8 shitbillion damage.

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I love getting summoned by wizards who spam this spell so I can't see what the boss is doing, then die in one hit when they pull aggro

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Why is there suddenly a deluge of people saying this spell is “garbage”? This is one of the best spells in the game for sorcerers alongside Comet Azur.

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Spell is almost worthless. Costs too much, doesn't do enough damage, and most bosses are immune to frost. It's the most expensive spell by far. The main selling point is pointless because of frostbite immunity. Very niche sorcery. Most people probably just use it because it's looks cool. I hate seeing a spell that could really be amazing get out preformed by so many other spells. It's supposed to be an endgame spell. But falls way short.

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pls mage friends ,
DO NOT SPAM this spell when you play with melee co-op.
I can't see anything when your moon explode in my face.

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I don't know if it will help some of you, but you can delete Malenia's waterfowl dance with Ranni's dark Moon if it procs frostbite... Just discovered it today ;)

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I saw one of the turtles, died jumping down to him, and then he just despawned for like 40 minutes. Probably a bug. After a few deaths and tps, he was back. I dont know if this helps anyone.

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Remember all the holy stuff the elden beast throws at you? Would you like to ignore all of it? Use this.

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This spell's location at Chelona's Rise perfectly aligns itself with Ranni's Chamber and the north moon itself (visible only from the Moonlight Altar). I suppose this is just further indication that the north moon IS the Dark Moon itself. Signed, weird map guy.

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The 20% magic damage negotiation debuff doesn't seem to work on Tibia Mariner.

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My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Am I missing something or is this spell really dumb?

I don't think it's a *bad* spell, I'm just saying: Rennala's Full Moon exists. Raya Lucaria isn't the hardest dungeon to go through, nor is Rennala the hardest boss to fight; and the spell you get from her has been my go-to since that early part of the game. Both a great opener (for weakening) and a hard-hitter.

Now, after I went though the f_cking Lake of Rot, the Cloister, defeating GBD Astel, and going through the amazingly fun puzzle of running around the entire island to find shiny turtles, my reward is... The same spell? 'cause honestly, I feel like the two are worth *exactly* the same. Rennala's hits harder and costs less, but Ranni's has frostbite, so I feel things are balanced out.

And they shouldn't be! Ranni's spell is *considerably* harder to get than Rennala's. Seriously, stop and think back for a sec: Caria Manor, Radahn, Nokron, Nokstella, Lake of Rot, Astel; all that to get a spell that's no better than the one you get after you're done with the Academy.

Since some powerful ennemies (*cough cough* end boss *cough cough*) are immune to cold, I'm not even going to switch. I'd rather have the higest DPS one, especially if it's cheaper. And by golly, that is *not* the conclusion I should be reaching for a spell that difficult to obtain.

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Hosts that spam this spell the whole time while you aggro the boss are simply built different

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Straight up I think that little tidbit in the description of the damage resistance debuff is wrong; after testing on multiple enemies with different magic damage negation values (frost trolls with 0, fire prelates with 20, magic dragons with 80, crystalians with 94), using a charged comet before and after landing dark moon, the spell seems to cause them to take exactly 10% more damage in every case. If I'm wrong and the reason for this is more complicated someone please enlighten me.

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What's the difference between this spell and Rennala's Full Moon?

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Personally the spell is in a bit of a weird spot, it has a short charge time, the fp cost is among the highest in the game, the int requirement is immense and it uses two memory slots, there are plenty of spells that do equal or more dmg, unbuffed but with great stats + gear it does about 1500 dmg but there are plenty other spells that can deal around that dmg for only around 20 fp compared to the 57 fp here, it's also fairly easy to dodge and will quite often miss enemies in pve. It does have the advantage of hitting in a fairly large aoe, but it does have to hit something first before the aoe triggers. The only real positives to the spells is that it gives reduces dmg reduction by 20% can go up to 30% if frost work and yeah it inflicts frostbite. It does look really cool though. I just can't see using this outside of some boss fights and some pvp, the orb is fairly fast though. It's pretty good while fighting in corridors, enclosed spaces or against multiple enemies in pvp. But when it comes to pve just as an example great oracular bubble deals less or more dmg depending on the charge time and has a slow travel speed, which can be good or bad, you could get of 3-4 bubbles vs a boss or strong enemy if their unaware and the fp cost is only 16. So yes the dmg reduction and potential frostbite is good but is it worth the high int investment and usage cost?

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Just easily killed Malenia with this. Cast this 2 or 3 times at the start of battle (using Ragadon's icon), run away and do it again. If you need to get some hits in and dont have the time to cast this or simply to use the remaining FP you have, use Magic Glintblade, Malenia does not doge them. Easy to do the first phase without getting hit.
For the second phase, I'm not good enough to solo her, so I used Mimic tear and we both used Ranni's Dark Moon, with some Magic Glintblade to finish her off once she starts running towards us and prevents casting the moon.
Lost 20 times in a row trying to fight her solo, then gave up and used the mimic tear. Got it first try.

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Once I decided to cheese Moongrum with this spell, so I applied all possible buffs before casting it with Lusat's staff: RFBS, both graven talismans, magic scorpion charm and cracker tear, Terra Magica, Snow Witch Hat and off-hand Carian Regal Scepter. Poor guy's bum got instantly deleted from suffering over 4k damage. And yes, this spell hits pretty damn hard in PvP

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best spell in the game. combo it with dark moon greatsword and the physick that gives no FP cost for 15 sec

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I don't think this spell needs a buff. It isn't meant to be a nuke (despite performing as such), but it's best used as a debuffer. 30% damage taken increase from all magic sources is nothing to scoff at when when you have spells like gavel of haima cristal torrent or shard spiral on your kit (RIP maliketh) + it blocks spells as it advances, so it can counter a lot of big boom spells if timed right, such as giantsflame take thee.

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I like this spell as a space closer. Debuffs, looks cool. Not really worried about damage. Cuz if they come within range, Royal Greatsword will tear them up. Only really use spells when they're trying to keep their distance

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This spells pretty situationally good in my opinion especially against Malenia. You can safely shoot two Moons at her when you enter the boss arena due to her being so far away, Inflicting both the debuff unique to the moon spells but also frostbite which increases damage taken by 20% for 30 seconds as well as chunking her health. Great tracking as well due to it's somewhat slow speed meaning you can consistently do this on each attempt and with a bit of luck you can take advantage of the increased damage to absolutely decimate her health bar with either spells or skills.

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Extremely telegraphed and easy to dodge, ridiculous stat requirements. Pure ass

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Please people who use this spell level up your vigor for **** sake

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I don't think this move is weak like the other are saying, although they surely need to increase its range and aoe.

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this is ranni's outer god btw to anyone who say "ranni ending has no outer gods" her moon and her mom's moon are both different outer gods

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The best way to use this FP hog in my experience is as an opener for the Defense Shred, the Frostbite or both. After that you'll be better off throwing out your preferred ranged damage option and watch the damage wrack up, especially if standing in Terra Magicka and buffed with a custom Flask.

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increase AOE pls

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It kinda sucks? I dunno if debaff is worth it

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This really needs to be buffed. Currently its basically useless. Also, carian retaliation shouldn't work properly against this sorcery, they both cancel spells so logically the dark moon and the retaliation should fizzle out if anything

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This sorcery needs a buff ! ! !

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One place where I absolutely loved this spell was the Haligtree. Very easy to kill those giant Oracle Envoys with this, since their bubble barrages are completely nulified.

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i feel like this needs hyper armor, better tracking, or both to be more worth the time considering its high int requirement

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I love things with random side effects you get to see randomly work at times. Pretty cool by the time you forget it cancels other spells and incants it eats another one and you're all "cool"

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Where’s the hyper armor on this thing? I’m up in the air about to release it and getting hit canceled it out, this thing is straight trash

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Gotta say, severely let down by this spell. At 70 intelligence with carian regal Scepter +9 and the magic scorpion charm it hits for around 1500, that's with the damage bonus from the enemy being unaware. Meanwhile with the exact same setup plus godfrey icon a charged R2 from the dark moon greatsword hits for 2000 and a charged comet hits for 1700.

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Highly underrated

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So what's better, Ranni's or Rennala's moon?

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I feel like If you drink the stuff to negate FP consumion and enhance magic damage + snow witch hat + Carian Regal Scepter + the spell you can Cast on the ground to buff damage, then using comet azur...sounds way to good to be true.

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2 of these against Malenia and you will melt her lifebar away with magic.

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For those interested - after buffs it has around 2 seconds cast time and after being cast has about 1 second delay where it moves slowly, then it greatly accelerates.

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I don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but I feel like Ranni's Dark Moon and Rennala's Full Moon seem to refer to different moons in their item description.
"Queen Rennala encountered 'this' enchnating moon...
" 'This' moon was encountered by a young Ranni..."
Since you can see two moons from Moonlight Altar, I think it makes sense.

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Rennala's full moon with 83 intelligence, carian regal and graven mass talisman does 1714 damage to a shield godrick soldier, ranni's dark moon only does 1571, but ranni's does frost, and can be boosted by the witch hat, so if you care about making a complete fashion build but still want the most effective moon, rennala's does more damage, but ranni's does ice

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In co-op, having this at a slower cast speed for the Godfrey/Hoarah Loux boss fight is actually better imo. The delayed cast means you hang in the air, and out of range of the boss's arena-encompassing stomp attack, for a longer amount of time. You can still time it correctly with a fast cast speed, but you get a bigger margin of error the slower it is.

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This spell is great as an opening move for tough enemies or bosses. Two casts in rapid succession is usually enough to proc frostbite for many bosses (and while you get the 10% magic resistance debuff from hitting it I don't believe it stacks), but the long cast time and the ease at which you can get knocked out of the animation makes this not viable to use in the middle of the fight.

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Fun fact, if you cast Ranni's Dark moon and Rennala's Full moon to make them collide, Ranni's cancels out Rennala's

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Super cool spell. Great effect, very fun to cast.

Bit situational - slow to cast and therefore not time efficient on enemies with already low magic defence given that it reduces magic damage negation by a percentage - it doesn't straight up cause you to deal 10% more damage, to my understanding. I am open to correction on this, but this is how I understand it based on the wording here.

Where this is really worthwhile is on bosses with high magic resistance. Still, if you can't get it off straightaway, I wouldn't bother. If they have 30% mitigation and you reduce it to 27%, that's not a great result. Again, I am basing this on my understanding of the wording, and am open to corrections.

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Damn I wish I could up my int to 68 on my 120lv build just for this beauty, but I need some int and dex for wider variety of cool weapons. That's a damn high requirement :( On the other hand the higher fth req for incantations is 50...

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Ok so I made this super strong able to 1-2 shot most enemies normal damage with no buffs Is about 1000 but if you use the following you can make the damage about 5x stronger
1: snow witch hat 10% dmg
2: magic scorpion charm 12% dmg
3: red feathered branchsword below 20% hp 20% dmg boost (use seppuku to reduce health)(alternatively ritual sword talisman 10% dmg at full hp)
4: Lord of bloods exultation 20% dmg again use seppuku to proc this also
5: graven mass talisman 8% dmg
6: commanders standard ash of war not sure but I think it's 15-20% dmg
7: any weapon with seppuku to proc 2 talismans
8: 2 yes 2 carian regal scepters 1 for each hand while casting the spell 15% dmg boost then another 15 on top so u get about 32-33% boost from those
9: Terra magica spell 35% dmg
10: magic shrouding cracked tear 20% dmg boost(not positive if it's 20% or 30%)
11: when you cast the spell the targets magic resistance is reduced by 10%
12: frost status effect on target further reduces targets resistances by 20%
I didn't try this on any boss but I was able to turn the base 1000 damage into a 1 shot 4996 damage which is insanely high and that was without #11 and 12 being active on the target
Give this a try I'm interested to see what else is possible and how much damage everyone else is capable of getting specially on a boss that can take alot of hits

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This spell lets you kill some tough bosses with like 4 hits. But to other bosses like fire giant it does jack, not even seems to hit him at all. So performance is very fluctuating to say the least.

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So let me get this straight. This spell causes massive magic damage...lowers damage negation on target...AND absorbs incoming spells? Damn Ranni you cray

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does old lord's talisman boost the length of the 10% debuff?

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I cant get this because the airlift thats supposed to be the last one is broken and it wont open

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they should increase the int requirements by 1. for balance reasons, of course.

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description makes it sound like rennala entrusted ranni to renna (who is being referred to as "the moon"), either renna is mother or sister to rennala. ice crest shield refers to a frost themed carian princes, and that could very well be renna.

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It used to reduce magic negation by 30% + frostbite. Now it's 10% + frostbite after patch ?

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They Must Buff and ReBuff Cold Sorceries and Cold Ashes of War!
Glintstone Icecrag: was left out of the massive Glintstone Overhaul Treatment: the range is terribly poor, the tracking is nonexistent, the Projectile is slow and worst of all: Can't be Charged!
Frozen Mist: is underpowered, weak and mostly ineffective or useless.
Frozen Armament is incredibly worthless and useless, and I doubt anybody ever used it.
Zamor Icestorm: cool idea but it's incredibly slow and vulnerable, no Poise or guard while casting do gets interrupted easily, small radius and short duration.
Adula's Moonblade got Butchered and Nerfed to the Ground as everyone agrees, needlessly (while they buffed 100 Incantations and weapons)
Ice Spear is good, butpoor range and tracking.
Hoarfrost Stomp is unusable and garbage now.
Frost Mist AoW is underpowered and not worth it.
They have to Buff and Improve all Cold Sorceries.
Ranni's Dark Moon should count as Charging Spell for Godfrey Talisman with how long a Cast it has!

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They Must Buff and ReBuff Cold Sorceries and Cold Ashes of War!
Glintstone Icecrag: was left out of the massive Glintstone Overhaul Treatment: the range is terribly poor, the tracking is nonexistent, the Projectile is slow and worst of all: Can't be Charged!
Frozen Mist: is underpowered, weak and mostly ineffective or useless.
Frozen Armament is incredibly worthless and useless, and I doubt anybody ever used it.
Zamor Icestorm: cool idea but it's incredibly slow and vulnerable, no Poise or guard while casting do gets interrupted easily, small radius and short duration.
Adula's Moonblade got Butchered and Nerfed to the Ground as everyone agrees, needlessly (while they buffed 100 Incantations and weapons)
Ice Spear is good, butpoor range and tracking.
Hoarfrost Stomp is unusable and garbage now.
Frost Mist AoW is underpowered and not worth it.
They have to Buff and Improve all Cold Sorceries.
Ranni's Dark Moon should count as Charging Spell for Godfrey Talisman with how long a Cast it has!

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This Spell should count as Charging Cast for Godfrey Talisman with how long and open a cast it has, will also compete with Comet better.
Further, they Must Buff Cold Sorceries and Cold Ashes of War!
Glintstone Icecrag: was left out of the massive Glintstone Overhaul Treatment: the range is terribly poor, the tracking is nonexistent, the Projectile is slow and worst of all: Can't be Charged!
Frozen Mist: is underpowered, weak and mostly ineffective or useless.
Frozen Armament is incredibly worthless and useless, and I doubt anybody ever used it.
Zamor Icestorm: cool idea but it's incredibly slow and vulnerable, no Poise or guard while casting do gets interrupted easily, small radius and short duration.
Adula's Moonblade got Butchered and Nerfed to the Ground as everyone agrees, needlessly (while they buffed 100 Incantations and weapons)
Ice Spear is good, butpoor range and tracking.
Hoarfrost Stomp is unusable and garbage now.
Frost Mist AoW is underpowered and not worth it.
They have to Buff and Improve all Cold Sorceries.

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So you have some unimportant math about this spells frostbite ( could already have frostbite from somewhere else so pretty irrelevant on this page imo) but not how long the debuff lasts? Come on guys get your **** together already

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I'm sorry but this spell is doodoo. For how difficult it is to obtain and how high its requirements are, the damage is just depressing. It barely outdamages loretta's greatbow which costs less than half the fp, has a shorter cast time, and only requires 26 int.

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"You launch another moon at me and I'm gonna lose it!"

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Better take this away, before Eggman pisses on it again!

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Does Rannis Moon Cancel the affect of Rennalas or how does it work?

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Testing this against an aware giant, it increased my damage output by 32%. 1.1 Moon debuff x 1.2 Frostbite debuff = 1.32 Total Debuff

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It didn't give it to me for some reason when I got invaded as I opened it

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This spell OWNS against Godfrey Hoarah Loux GROUND STOMPS!
It completely 100% Evades and ignores the Stomp Shock Wave. You can keep blasting without interference.

Also effective Vs other ground jumpable waves AOE and low sweeping slashes. I managed to dodge Rykard sword sweep like this!

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"Ranni's Dark Moon" sounds like it's describing her butt.

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What does "cold" damage mean here? I get frost bite, but I don't think there is cold damage-type in game. Cold infusion adds magic to weapons and armors have no such defence. Could someone who has this test if Terra Magica (magic only boost) buffs this spell?

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Does it cancel incantations too?

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Incarnate a cold, dark moon and launch it at foes. Quite thrilling.

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but its not better than Rennalas unfortunately, it uses more FP and does less damage, kinda bummer konsidering the ultimate Ranni sorcery could overtake her mothers

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Was casting this against Elden Beast, and it canceled it’s sword beams.

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If you are 80 INT and wearing ranni's hat in conjunction with the other frost spells than this is worth using over Rennala's. BOTH moon spells apply the same magic debuff, it is NOT an instant 30% magic damage reduction it is the exact same as rennala's. What ranni's moon does is apply frost and if you frostbite the enemy they take increased damage from all sources including magic so that is what you see people referencing with 30% increased damage. If you aren't at the hard cap for INT you may be better off using an INT boosting hat if you're looking for more damage and if you aren't going to be using the frost spells to proc frost after opening with Ranni's moon than this is not worth using over Rennala's moon as it actually does less damage without ranni's hat and costs more FP.

Short version:
Use this with frost spells and ranni's hat
Use Rennala's moon if you aren't using ranni's hat and you aren't trying to stack frost

I personally appreciate that both have use cases :)

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Why are there 2 FP costs listed

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The distance it travels, its acceleration, and the AoE on landing makes it a fairly decent PvP spell. The Moon can also "block" other spells thrown directly at you after it releases. It's obvious counter is to keep pressure on the mage so they can't safely cast it. However, and my one complaint for its use in PvP, you can absorb the whole thing with Carian Retaliation, which seems pretty ridiculous that for 9 FP on any build, you can instantly negate 68 Int and 2-3 seconds of casting time (which is a lot in a fast paced game like this).

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Once I threw rocks, now I throw moons

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Please confirm if Carian Regal actually increases the damage.
My damage testing using Astrologer as an alternative shows that Carian Regal only buffs Rennala's, not Ranni's.
Ranni consistently does more damage using Astrologer without Snow Witch, less using Carian Regal without Snow Witch.
Carian Regal + Snow Witch makes Ranni move a little bit ahead of Rennala.

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I killed all 3 turtles and the entrance is still blocked. Anyone else having this problem?

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Fills the frostbite gauge by 100 so if they have more than that you will need to land more frost

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Ranni's dark moon does 10% less than Rennala's. Easy to compare is put on the snow witch hat and take it off

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This is just a slightly different version of Rennala's Full Moon. Tested it and Rennala's consistently does more damage. The only benefit of Ranni's is the frost application but unless you're purposely doing a frost stacking build I don't think it's worth using due to the damage loss and FP cost compared to Rennala's.

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Has the potential for good damage it it procs Frostbite...that said, still far, far lower DPS than pebble. Thanks, Fromsoft.

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Honestly, there was only one fight where I found the ability to cancel out other sorcery's useful and it's the 3rd to last boss fight in the game lol where you fight that NPC sorcerer.

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For anyone struggling with the lack of any kind of poise during the startup cast, you can enchant a right hand weapon with the Endure weapon art(Functions as perserverance in Ds3) and it'll give you infinite(Maybe? I've never been interrupted during poise boost tho) poise for the majority of the cast animation. Super useful for casting ganks, as you can poise through a lot of their casts, then the moon will block the rest. Also makes this a decent spell for close quarters since you get reduced damage taken from endure, and the hosts gank will generally try to stunlock you while you're casting the spell allowing you to drop a massive AoE on them while they're still trying to figure out why you didn't get interrupted.

Also for any sorcerers not running this spell during invasions, start using it. Cast time is long, but I literally had a cast follow a blue around a corner and wipe him and the unexpecting furled finger out in 1 hit. Majority of players in my 110 range get 1shot with this if you run a halfway glass cannon build, and the debuff makes wiping a squad so much easier. My best strategy so far is to get a high vantage point where the host/summons can't see you, pop the infinite FP flask tear, and blast the squad to the moon. Follow up with any spells you want to after casting.

Also I need to test this further, but from what I gather the magic defense debuff still applies even if they roll out of the attack as long as the AoE manages to touch them. Multiple times I've seen phantoms/hosts get the particle effect for the debuff despite the spell not hitting.

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Ive tested on giants at Grand Lift of Dectus and glintstone dragon smarag. This has the same magic res debuff as Rennalas full moon. And debuffs from the moons do not stack. However, they do stack with Knowledge Above All, which also has the same amount of magic res debuff as the moons

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The debuff is the same 10% like Rennala's Full Moon. Use it on enemies that don't get instant frostbite and you will find out.

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Curious about this 30% debuff, is it due to the frost procing and that what causing the 30% over the 10%, or is it really 30% before frost procs

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For those struggling to use the spell when you have the right stats, note that it uses 2 memory slots, so you must have 2 memory slots free or it will be greyed out.

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"Legendary sorcery associated with the Carian queen.

Uses the caster as a vessel to incarnate a cold, dark moon, then sends it floating toward foes. The dark moon dispels all sorvery" someone need to correct the typo please XD

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After testing both Rennala and Ranni's full and dark moon, i see which spell i'll keep from now on. i do 1300-1500 with Rennala's full moon, Ranni's dark moon does 1300-1900 damage (after applying debuff). I have 98 int.

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The second turtle never showed up for me either but when I got back to the tower it was opened so I think it died on its own.

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I have int at 68 I have the spell and staff why won’t it let me pick the spell

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I have int at 68 I have the spell and staff why won’t it let me pick the spell

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I thought it would be crap in pvp because of cast time and slow projectile being easy to dodge. Boy was i wrong. People eat this thing so much and it does stupid damage. I think people are getting caught rolling by the explosion AOE or maybe the speed makes the dodge time awkward. Love it, great spell. This and adulas moonblade go so well together, buff from snow witch hat, huge aoe, been wiping gankers with those spells the past few nights. So much fun.

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i cant use the full moon nor the dark moon i have both and i have enough int
i have them in my inventory but i cant use them at all

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"This sorcery reduces a target's magic negation by ~30%, 20% more than Rennala's Full Moon."
You don't subtract percents to find the difference. The correct way to treat this is a difference between 90% (0.9) and 70% (0.7). This makes the difference 22.22% repeating, which means rennala's full moon reduces it by 22.22% less and ranni's is 77.77777777% more. This appears like a lot, but when handling something like a damage increase (like the full hp talisman, which is a 10% increase) that is calculated as 110%, or 1.1.
(1 - 0.7 / 0.9) * 100 = 22.22222.

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Don't know if they updated it recently or not. But my turtles didnt reset after I died from falling off a cliff or fast travelling back to the rise. Also one of the turtles are flying in the air like a majestic mofo.
On PC

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Better than it’s variant despite higher cost due to lower requirement. If you’re doing a 100-120 run this sucker hits perfect for a boss warmup to smite with your Dark Moon Greatsword or Adula’s Moonblade. Both pair greatly with Carian royal sceptre.

I recommend opaline bubble tear with magic damage boosting tear as pre fight buff w/ Dark Moon Greatsword.

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Everybody keeps saying they despawn if you fast travel but I just found the last two turtles in post game after finding the first turtle 40 or so hours earlier and I didn't need to do anything to respawn them. I just went to the locations and they were there. I know I've fast traveled a time or two in 40 hours of game time lol. My guess is that them resetting for people is a common bug OR my turtles not resetting was a rare bug and I just got lucky.

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