Eochaid's Dancing Blade | Elden Ring Wiki

Absolutely disappointing. I expected the AoW to behave something like the Dark Moon Greatsword's, in that it would buff you and change your moveset while buffed. Letting you throw the sword around like the boss who uses this does, and the heavy/charged heavy attack can be the corkscrew attack it currently is.

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I did some testing using Marais Executioner Sword (54 Str + 14 Dex + 30 Arc = 723 dmg):

My target was Banished Knight at Dragon Altar grace (Farum Azula).

1) No talismans used - fully charged AoW did 1926 dmg, uncharged did 1286 dmg.

2) Godfrey Icon only - fully charged AoW did 2222 dmg, uncharged did 1286 dmg.

3) Shard of Alexander only - fully charged AoW did 2222 dmg, uncharged did 1481 dmg.

4) Rotten Winged Insignia only - full charged Aow did 2549 dmg, uncharged did 1666 dmg.

5) Millicent's Prosthetis only - fully charged AoW did 2432 dmg, uncharged did 1590 dmg.

Thus, we can conclude following: Strongest talisman to pair with this is Rotten Winged Insignia (+32% dmg output), then Millicent's Prosthetis (+26%), then last place is shared with Godfrey Icon and Shard of Alexander (both +15%, but Shard keeps bonus even on uncharged AoW, unlike Godfrey's).

Now, let's see how they stack (all fully charged AoW):

1) Millicent's Prosthetis + Rotten Winged Insignia = 3261 dmg (maybe more, Knight just dies in oneshot lol), so about +69% dmg.

2) Godfrey Icon + Shard of Alexander = 2544 dmg, +32% dmg.

3) Godfrey Icon + Rotten Winged Insignia = 2934 dmg, +52% dmg.

4) Shard of Alexander + Rotten Winged Insignia = 2934 dmg, +52% dmg.

Overall, it's worth combining Rotten Winged Insignia and Millicent's Prosthethis, as that combo gives you most damage out of this drill AoW, and then you can slap either Godfrey Icon or Shard of Alexander (although latter is more preferable) to boost it further. I still need to find a non-boss respawning enemy who can survive this combo to give you exact numbers lol.

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The way this launches people right before the last attack is kinda annoying.

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turns out this ability does work with godskin cloth but is extremely ineffective and probably wastes a slot since it only procs once

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as this is an Ash of War that does magic damage, is it improved by the Spellblade's set?

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this does over 11000 damage with just rings and physic as buff, pretty good.

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The damage is not based entirely on your Attack Rating. Even if your stats are spread in a way that Regalia has higher AR than Marais, Marais still does more damage with the Ash of War. It probably has to do with the base values that are being multiplied. which are higher on a greatsword than a straight sword.

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If I see a guy during an invasion using this I can barely take them seriously, which oddly increases the chances they actually land it.

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Does the stance damage of this thing increase when fully charged? It just says "36/34 stance" damage and doesn't specify if that's charged, uncharged, or if it's unaffected by charging the skill.

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Drill go brrrrrrrr

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God I just wish this was an Ash that I could put on another weapon.

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I think people have underestimated the Regalia version of this because they're only comparing them on Str builds. The secret here is that on both weapons, Arcane scaling affects both the physical AND magic damage. Regalia has the better Arcane scaling, so you'll get much better mileage out of it on an Arcane build.

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This weapon magic type needs spells/incantations that go with it, its hard building a character theme around these swords when there is no ranged spell options that are similar... Meaning the red magic effect, need red spells.

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Does godefroys icon buff the charged version of the AOW?

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Does the ash of war inflict status effects?

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is it better to run the magic scorpion charm or millicents prosthesis for the ash of war? i already have the rotten sword insignia equipped

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So is it better to run Rotten Sword Insignia and Millicent Prosthesis or Godfrey Icon and Alexander Shard with this? Anyone tested?

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does anyone know if charging this does moar dmg with the axe talisman?

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The last hit in the drill has significant stagger potential and does something like 60% of the drill portion's damage, so if you miss that, you're not going to do much damage.

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I like how it resembles the spinning lightsaber throw you see in SW games, but on the wrong axis

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Whichever weapon you go with, stacking multi-hit talismans/physick is a must. Don't take this for a spin (heh) without at least the basic wing sword and Millicent's prosthetic.

Marais is a one-trick pony that hits like a freight train. Anyone that respects the ash of war will probably win against you but it absolutely destroys in invasions.

Regalia deals a bit less damage on the drill (still occasionally oneshots) but dual SS gets way more mileage out of the multi-hit setup so offhand an occult broadsword or another Regalia for a more versatile and aggressive build better suited for duels.

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The perfect match for this weapon, the spiked shield or Briars shield w/ Shield Crash AoW > set to either bleed / poison or frost. Not only does the shield do 4 successive attacks which boost your talismans, you can also add in the blood and/or poison talismans and armor OR just got frost to set frostbite. But what really takes it to the next level is the shield crash almost always knocks enemies onto their back giving you perfect time to 2H the greatsword and just devestate enemies. In NG+2 one shield combo + this WA after was enough to destroy all 3 main bosses dishing out over 15k of damage. If the enemy is really quick the shield bash alone is strong enough to plow through them, like the red dog boss at the academy. It’s insane and if anyone is havi mg trouble on boss fights and isn’t running a caster build, give this a try. Key stats I’ve found are 66 STR (99 2H) + 45 Arcane. You’ll need to run some Dex and depending if you want all 4 talismans slots, a bunch of endurance. You can consider using the equip load cracked tear also.

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I wonder, is there a lore connection between Eochaid and the crucible knights and maybe even Caria? Their weapon skills all have this telekinetic spinny thing going on, plus they're generally outcast for heresy.

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The greatsword will only do more damage on a STR Character. On a DEX or ARC character the shortsword will do better damage.

Little bit less range, but the dual shortsword moveset is better.

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Is this considered thorn sorcery? Does Alberich's set affect this skill?

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Perfect boss melter.... if the boss is slow moving or can be stun locked. I doubt this would be useful against fast/agile bosses.

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Shard of Alexander, Godfrey Icon, Winged Sword Insig, Millicents prothsesis cuz i dont have rotten insig, spellblade set and this thing is BROKEN

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I like this site's Marais build, and some other similar builds, focused on maximized damage with the Marais GS.

I have a fun alternative take on this, that might warrant more testing: This WA seems to be the fastest way to proc the "successive attacks" buffs, but those last a while and apply to many *other* skills/weapons/attacks, even things that wouldn't proc the buffs.

For example, rotten breath seems to benefit. One combo I am toying with is switching between Marais and a dagger with Flame of the Redmanes. Not sure why FotR gets buffed (AR didn't seem to matter otherwise and damage is fire.) Anyhow, these two work really well when switched back and forth.

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Is it safe to assume this skill does pierce damage?

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behold, Eochaid's dancing electric drill!

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That new cancel window make this Art so good now

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Does the charged skill just do physical damage? Or is it magic, or a combo of both?

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Woo boy this thing wrecks when it hits.
For anyone who's interested in using the Regalia or Marais, this WA is affected by:
Millicent's Prosthesis, Shard of Alexander (duh.), Rotten Winged Sword Insignia, and Godfrey Icon.

Yes, these all stack together.
If you want a bit of a defensive edge, as others have mentioned, you can swap out one of the above talismans for Godskin Swaddling Cloth to gain some decent HP regen.

Can also be stacked with Thorny Cracked Tear in a mixed physick.

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Did further testing with Marais specifically but it might also apply to Regalia of Eochaid. Enemies can be sent flying backwards when poise-broken in the middle of the Corkscrew attack which means they get saved from having to eat the full dmg which really sucks when this occurs against players. I noticed this happens more often with the skill when charged. I was already getting similar issues with people being stunned the whole time during the corkscrew attack but somehow recover and dodge the followup sweep attack even though in other cases it has landed without failures. The R1 into uncharged Skill as a roll-catcher only works if they were almost body-to-body contact distance when they started a roll or else you'll whiff but even if it was executed properly, poise will screw you over as they backpedal away while being drilled and now they're out of range... or you can somehow potentially send them flying away safely because you poise-broke them. It doesn't happen all the time but when it does, you'll feel it. For so many flaws with this weapon and poise shenanigans, Fromsoft should have made the followup sweep attack require another input to execute so we would not be locked into that long animation.

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Not sure on poise numbers and breakpoints but its completely garbage to me now. I started using this in pvp and the initial corkscrew attack struggles to break the poise of some people so they can still roll after being struck while you're stuck in animation and it doesn't turn around until the forced followup attack. The range of this is also so bad uncharged ontop of its lack of poise that you also can't use it that well in PvE especial against enemies who react to attacks and also that bosses change aggro to you rather immediately. I had higher opinions of this because of the dmg output but after extensive use for practical results, there's literally nothing else going for this ash of war.

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You can easily proc all the consecutive-hit buffs/effects with this ash of war BUT the skill itself has alot of inherent flaws that make it painful to use. For starters, lack of poise even on Marais Executioner Sword so you're mostly relying on armor. The poise damage is a bit of a mess as well and the corkscrew can send enemies flying back causing you to whiff the followup sweeping attack that you're locked into which is about 1/3 of the dmg you would've dealt in total had it all landed. You can't engage with this skill for PvP since you need opponents to walk into it or roll around you can get caught by its deceptive side hitboxes but it will one-shot most players if you do land it directly with millicent+winged insignia talismans. For PvE, you're highly vulnerable and this thing sucks at staggering enemies out of their attacks. The dmg output for its cost even uncharged is quite good if you stack all consecutive dmg buffs including the physick flask. If desperate enough, get the poise physick flask to trade and get the buff off or to nuke a tough enemy at the very start with a fully charged attack.

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The only change I really want is slow walking and turning while using it. It would help fix barely missing your target. That and for it to only knock down an opponent if hit with the tip/center, knocking enemies over with the hilt/air means you end up losing out on the sword return damage. Other than that I absolutely love it.

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This weapon art is flashy but piss poor. Slow, horrible range, and the damage is 1/3 of the regular attacks you could inflict in the same amount of time. It needs serious increase to range (at least double) and needs probably a 4x multiplier for the damage.

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Regalia of Eochaid really sucks with this Ash of War probably due to smaller hitbox? Marais Executioner Sword is where its much more better but the problem still lies with the skill itself because you're locked into the followup sideways sweep attack after the corkscrew. The side hitbox is pretty deceptive and some players can stumble right into it. The poise dmg is pretty lacking so alot of enemies can just poise into your face and the amount of poise you have from this skill is almost nonexistent in my personal experience anyway. The dmg output probably heavily requires millicent's prosthesis and rotten winged insigna stacking to be worth the effort/risk using. Its possible to roll catch with this skill but only if you roll around you and not away from you. R1 into this Skill works for roll-catching only if they were extremely close to you when you struck them or else it will completely whiff. The skill has some slight issues when trying to use it on higher targets even though it can clearly be thrown at an angle in other cases. Too many flaws and inconsistent reliability here but still amusing.

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what a botch. this skill clearly should have been giving the player the ability to puppet swing the sword around like they do.

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I'm trying really really hard to like this weapon skill, even if you ignore the terrible range on what is supposed to be the gimic since it does much less damage than other weapon arts and the sword itself isn't great either, the shitty little swing at the end ensures you have no time to dodge and have to eat whatever the counter is, just awful all around.

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Regalia of Eochaid, Straight Sword found in Gaol Cave (requires Stonesword Key to enter) has this weapon art. A little lackluster with the short range, though.

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