Gelmir Hero's Grave | Elden Ring Wiki

there are quite a few of the bag head guys.. hate them

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worst dungeon ever

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Haha. So many complaints. If you just adjust and do what the guide suggests, bh step, and especially raptors of the mists, all of these dungeons are a breeze!
Don’t forget a shackle (margit’s/mohg’s) as their massive aoe can activate the “flamethrower platforms”
#easygame

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This place is not worth stepping foot into.

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This dungeon is such dogshit on so many levels. Another reused boss, lava that slows you down, another damn Chariot, **** for rewards... One of the worst in the game by a mile.

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This dungeon sucks ass. I lost 160k runes because I got trapped in the corner by the chariot where you get the stonesword key. Huge design flaw

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This is a really poor walkthrough, there are so many things just confusing or outright wrong.

For example, after you get the Ringed Finger the directions take you near the boss room. The walkthrough then tells you to wait for the chariot and jump on the back. This is wrong. Jumping on the chariot is to get you to where you already are, and you jump on it from a completely different location.

Very poor guide.

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Someone please tell me why the beast eye didnt quiver upon entering the grave.?

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So Tarnished with 10 Vigor is not welcomed here?

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Nothing in here is worth this bullshit.

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I was able to fast travel in this Hero's Grave (via map when no enemies were around)- which was pretty great as there is one item that leaves you trapped in a corner by a chariot with no way out.

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Does anyone know if you can just grab the deathroot and die if you don't care about the boss drop enough?

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There is no lever, you can just open the doors. I spent way too long looking for it.

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While riding the chariot isn’t obvious while playing it is in fact showcased in the game’s launch trailer.

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The worst part about this place is this place.

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Wow what a ride. First Dungeon with chariot xD

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Wow just discovered the drop chute to the boss down where the ringed finger is, I can’t believe you could just skip the whole thing lmao

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That lesser bloodhound knight drops the full set. While that's noted on the obtainable items portion of the page, it is not noted on the walkthrough.

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I've been here today and these directions are confusing at best. What I thought was the natural route led me to the bloodhound and gelmir knight sets, and the ladder to get on the beams to drop onto the chariot for a ride down the lava incline. After reading this though I have no idea where the chest with ringed finger is or how to get on what according to this page is the second chariot.

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You can ride the second chariot. It doesn't do anything. But you can.

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Anybody find the beatle emitting the noise at the grace site? You first hear it about 3/4 way down when u first take the lift and continue to hear it till u come up to the grace site

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And the best part is jumping into the alcoves to hide from the chariots and fighting the camera, er I mean skeletons you can't see. Everything else is pure bliss (for a sadistic developer).

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This whole dungeon style, this one in particular, just gives off way more of a Legends of Zelda vibe than a Soulsborne one. Not really interested in the only threats in a dungeon being the environment :/

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Does anyone know what's the weird ring hanging below the cross beams?

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The worst part about this place is how ridiculously long the elevator is.

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I remember people not liking the chalice dungeons in Bloodborne, it was sort of split between players who really hated them, and players who really hated them but did them for the platinum or to farm the high tier gems for the weapon slots. But apart from needing to do them to get the platinum trophy and one or two of the most powerful 3rd tier caryll runes there was nothing that was exclusive to the chalice dungeons, but from what I've seen so far these Hero's grave dungeons are far worse than even the hateful cursed and defiled chalice dungeon because some of the coolest armour sets, the dragon incantation seal and some powerful weapons are only obtainable by beating a Hero's grave dungeon. It's like pulling teeth with no anaesthesia, dying over and over, I really hate the chariots as well.

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I can't get on the wooden beam. I'm going to lose my ****ing mind in this place

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This is a terrible dungeon im sorry but its awful

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*plays "Chariots of Fire" for the fallen*

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7.8/10 too much lava

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Lava surfing using Ashes or fire damage negation talismans best way to complete this horrible dungeon.

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Whoever made the 3D map is a saint, thank you!

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This dungeon killed me more times than Astel and Radahn combined

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Needs more lava

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FS brings a whole new level to the phrase "tedious waste of time"

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actual worst dungeon I have had the pleasure of completing in this game

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I do not know why but the lava does not slow down my tank/strength build and I cannot piece together why. For reference
Class:Vagabond
RL-150
Vigor-60
END-40
STR-80
DEX-14
All other stats are at base value.
Gear:
Armor-Banished Knight Helmet (unaltered),Scaled Armor (altered),Iron Gauntlets,Veteran Leggings
Weapons-Golem's Haldberd,Misbegotten Shortbow,Mausoleum Greatshield
Talismans:Great Jar's Talisman,Erdtree's Favour+2,Dragon Greatshield Talisman,Pearldrake Talisman+2
The reason I am giving a detailed breakdown of the character is because I cannot single out what causes me to move unhindered in lava. I do not know if it is because of my high % damage absorptions,my heavy armor,if I caused it by bumping a stat like STR high enough,if a secondary derivative stat i.e. Robustness causes it or it is just a side effect of reaching a high enough RL.
Anyone else had a similar experience?

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Unless I’m missing something you don’t actually need to ride the chariot you run through the lava and then kill the boss warp to site of grace and get behind it

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The scarab you hear at the grace btw is a troll, it's a crimson tear scarab on the outside but very close to the spawn point, in the canyon next to the altus skelly boatman. You can see it from outside the entrance. Killing it then coming back to the grave makes it respawn.

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Much much much easier to drop from the first bridge you pass. Drop onto the X beams below, if having trouble jump into a corner. Hit blood hound knight from above. Done

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One of the most tedious, poorly made dungeons in the game. Highly recommend you skip unless you absolutely need something out of here.

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Sick map

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Once you find the finger weapon, go the other way thru lava. There is a grave wort plant to pick and a drop that leads straight to the boss, enabling you to skip all the rest of the chariot madness, however choosing to skip most of the chariot madness will prevent you from earning a lot of treasure and armor.

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Riding the chariot is a horrible design choice. From the first second you encounter this you are being taught that you will die even If you just slightly touch it. And then you are expected to jump on top of it? Fromsoft really crapped the bed with this one.

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Who decided bringing back the worst part of Bloodborne was a good idea

And why are they still breathing

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HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT I HAVE TO JUMP ON TOP OF THE CHARIOT?!?!

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This place can keep it's secrets. Not effin worth it.

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once you pass the first chariot and turn left into the room with the page's and the fire totem, there is another path with a chariot that can be ridden. to the left is a path to the bloodhound knight and to the right is a dead end. has anyone found a legitimate way out of the dead end other than taking damage?

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I ravened the mist out of those chariots enabling me to trivialize most of the path

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The guide fails to mention the bandit/assassin/rogue enemies that stab you as you come thtough a doorway (I'm looking for their name), always a lot of bloodstains around these guys.

But to everyone else, you can drop down onto a board in the first opening & then again onto the chariot, you can go to the boss in like 40 seconds. Its a little risky, but I always go spend my runes on levels or arrows before this crap. I barely use ash of wars, so quickstep & bloodhound step are out of the question, almost made it through the lava, but its not possible without those skills.

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Really bad idea to summon co operators here because they can run forward and change the path of the chariot and make your life hell

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Nice job on that map, whoever did it :)

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Just wondering, there is no way to destroy the chariots like destroying the one in Fringefolk Hero's Grave, is there?

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there's a shrine right after the site of grace that plays a sound when doing the "erudition" gesture; I tried testing the following glintstone crowns but none of them worked:
karolos
twinsage
witch
haima
hierodas
there may be ones I haven't tested but I don't have them. can anyone else test it?

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For anyone confused where this is, go west up until the pumpkin guy, then head south past the wolves

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My favorite invading place!

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I've apparently missed items 3 times and had to come back here 3 times, and only after reading through the comment section and 214 hours of playtime have I gotten the first indication that you're supposed to be able to jump on top of these things.

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Equip Ash of War Bloodhound's Step. Bloodhound step through the lava at the end of the first death chariot area. On the left, there is a place you can step on safe land and heal. Inside is an item but across from the room and safe platform is a hole in wall with a glovewort and a drop that will take you straight to the end of the dungeon and the boss wall. Be careful of the drop, it can kill you if miss the middle platform on the way down.

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How do I get inside? There is a veil and I cannot pass.

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You can ride the last chariot in the cave. If you drop down, loly the bloodhound then take the ladder up, you can drop onto the chariot and ride it all the way down. Hope this helps.

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I love it!

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in all or most other chariot dungeons, you can kill the chariots and get special items. has no one found a way to kill them?

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At the beginning of the dungeon (where there is the bonfir...the grace) I can hear the sound made by those insects with the ball...why??

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I know it’s been said before but Bloodhound Step absolutely trivializes this place. Even the last stretch of pure lava before the boss. I missed the jump on the top of the last chariot so I just ended up bloodhound stepping down the slope anyways. Made it first try.

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the boss is easier than the chariots

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hell

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Dung ahead therefore try turn back

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Wow is that a tiny chariot model in the last ramp?! How cute!

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A reused boss, with a reused enemy (that used to be a boss) that was also hiding in the corner for another reused gotcha moment, with a reused chariot mechanic, in a reused dungeon, on top of a reused premise that if you fail even just you gotta do the whole thing all over again.

People need to take a look at these kinds of bullshit and stop being an apologist fanboy. FROM was doing its best to maintain its reputation of making hard games without fully understanding why those hard games were fun in the first place. Kind of like Ubisoft not understanding why Far Cry 2 and 3 were good, and pumping out bullshit after bullshit OPeNwOrLDs.

If you keep putting up with FROM's bullshit, they're gonna eventually pump out bullshit with every gotcha moment they could find in the book. Or you know, reusing them because that's exactly how Elden Ring is.

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Weapons-grade tedium.

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There are 7X Grave Glovewort [7] in this Dungeon, not 4X as the page says.

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Chariot graves are pure cancer

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Not letting Miyazaki troll me. Leaving this dungeon and never coming back.

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oh god not this **** again

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300000 runes

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Also, if you just want to clear the boss - just make your way down the first hall you enter with a chariot. Quickstep across the lava at the end, the chariot won't follow you here. At the end of the hall is a small archway to the right, where you can drop down a hole straight to the boss gate.

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Seemed intimidating at first, then turned out to be fairly simple. But i agree, bot the most fun & well designed dungeon. I'd advice to attempt this when you've already lost your rune arc - it does feature fairly random deaths. Use bubbletear in mixed physick when you can't avoid a chariot hit (stonesword key for example), and quickstep ash for lava walking as others have said. Otherwise, patience and timing.

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For those who comment to roll or jump or can walk on Lava, you don't need to go into the Lava (except for two seconds at the end). Before the lava part, next to narrow ramp going down (when avoiding the chariot), there is a small ledge you can fall onto. Walk the ledge, and there is a room inside with an enemy. Beat him and go up the ladder, afterwards jump the window, walk the beam, and fall onto the chariot, ride it down, and you're at the door.

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So I found a shortcut that leads you to the crossbeams you need to mount for the second chariot.

When you get to the forth alcove, the one before the passage that leads to all the Pages, there's a ramp flanked by two open spaces. If you drop down while hugging the wall, you will land on the crossbeams where you need to stand to land on the second chariot.

This way comes at the cost of missing out on items and armor, but it is much easier than trying to mount the crossbeams from the window. Ultimately what you're here for is the Deathroot and this is shortcut reduces a lot of stress.

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No there isnt a hidden door near the grace. What you are hearing is the red flask beetle on the other side of the wall in the valley. You can find it if you go north from seethewater pass and go to right next to where the grave grace is on the map

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All of the hero's graves are the worst dungeons in the game. So disappointing. A special map icon just for them to each be a rehash of each other with stupid time wasting chariots and reused bosses. A normally designed catacombs or cave would've been better.

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Missed an entire section-down the first hallway-3rd safe space on the left, big room with a bunch of hollows and 3 pages, leading to another room with 2 pages waiting to ambush.

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Second chariot stone sword key is NOT WORTH IT! Chariot traps you with zero way out. Does a short path and blocks the door.

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Patience is you best friend in the Hero’s Grave dungeons. Stay calm and wait for openings, fellas.

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Pure unfun cancer

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A real ball buster is what this is

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Omg I just to jump on this ****er?
I remember the first time I had an encounter with the chariots:

I waited for it to turn around, but was a little bit to fast and touched the backside just after it turned around.
I thought spikes/wheels = death, but no, even the harmless looking backside was insta kill, so I came to understand that simply touching it means certain death, and NOW the game wants me to fkn jump onto one.

C'mon dude...

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Wow that walkthrough needs some work!

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I can’t breathe, I’m waiting for the exhale
Toss my pain with my wishes in a wishing well
Still no luck, but oh, well
I still try even though I know I’m gon’ fail
Stress on my shoulders like a anvil
Perky got me itching like a anthill
Drugs killing me softly, Lauryn Hill
Sometimes I don’t know how to feel

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Wtf is this dungeon. It's the ****ing hardest **** to get to the boss since the last spinning wheel one. And unlike the boss of that one, this one is a total pushover. The fight lasted less than 30 seconds. Seriously, some of the mobs in this dungeon are tougher than the boss.

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this place is awful for invaders, the spawn point is in the path of the chariot

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I don't know how, but at some point of levelling I appear to have reached a point where my dude can run normally in lava. It makes places like this and volcano manor much easier

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Why does it sound like there is a scarab or something right at the altar by the entrance? There is no hidden wall or anything there.

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also, why are so many people complaining about this dungeon being hard? this was easy and the lava barely even hurts.

you want hard? go through the iron castle of DS2 where the lava will literally melt you in seconds!

compared to that, this lava is chip damage once every...1-3 seconds? lol i've played through every souls game to date and this place is borderline harmless aside from the chariots and mobs.

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there is a beetle behind the altar wall in the bonfire room... anyone know how to reach it? stand next to the altar and move the camera and you can hear it.

this dungeon has at least 1 more secret to it...

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The possible loot is not worth it lmao

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Best platformer ever

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terrible design

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For your interest: You can use the Ash of War "Raptor of the Mists" to evade the chariots. They will pass through you and deal no damage. This can be achieved with lifestealfist too but you would need to use the ash on a skeleton right in time.

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